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Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...

Hi, I just subscribed to this list, but have read several online archives about the subject.  Please assist, I have a more-direct question to ask:
 
Can WebDAV + SVN 1.1.2 + SVNAutoversioning play nice on Apache 2.0.52 + Win Svr 2003 ?
 
There seems to not be a direct answer anywhere, and all help would be tremendously appreciated.  
 
Here is the backstory: I am rebuilding our dev environment in a WinXP,MacOSX shop.  We develop both online and offline projects.  *Autoversioning* would be my ultimate in reliability for web projects, and I personally prefer an automated software layer doing the work in real-time (versus soft-hardware doing regular back-ups, which already exists on network shares and happens daily/nightly).
 
Please shed light on this question.  All documentation and list-serv threads lead to an answer, but all are with different circumstances (i.e. debian v. windows).
 
Thank you!
 
- nasser
 
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Re: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...

Posted by Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>.
On Jan 12, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Alan Knowles wrote:

> google for Novell's netdrive or webdrive (cant remember the name) - it 
> works perfectly from the tests I've done.
>

Ah, okay, then we're confusing problems here.  Let me clarify.

1.  There is no problem with apache/subversion/autoversioning.  It 
works identically on every server OS.

2.  When it comes to reading the share, most DAV clients work fine 
against such a server setup:  nautilus, KDE, OSX, cadaver, etc.

3. When it comes to writing to the share, files need to be "dragged" to 
the share, rather than opened directly from the share.  Appendix C in 
the book explains this, and discusses some workarounds.  When svn 1.2 
is released, the autoversioning feature will no longer have such a 
limitation, since we'll have real locking.

4.  On some versions of Windows -- XP in particular -- the built-in DAV 
client ("webfolders") often doesn't work against apache all.  While 
most folks have never had problem using Win98 or WinNT/2K "webfolders", 
it's generally recommended that XP webfolders not be used at all 
against apache.  Even the author of mod_dav recommends other win32 DAVE 
clients like netdrive or webdrive.

So to answer the original poster's question:  "Yes, the server setup 
you propose works just fine, regardless of the server's OS.  But 
Windows XP's built-in DAV client has stopped being interoperable with 
apache's mod_dav."


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Re: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...

Posted by Alan Knowles <al...@akbkhome.com>.
google for Novell's netdrive or webdrive (cant remember the name) - it 
works perfectly from the tests I've done.

Regards
Alan

Håvard Vold wrote:

> Sorry to say so, but I have Apache 2.0.52, Subversion 1.1.2, all 
> running on Windows 2003 Server, using digest authentication, and 
> cannot mount a subversion repository as a Web Folder or a network 
> drive because Windows XP(SP2) pops a username/passworddialog which 
> insists on a Windows domain term in the username; all downhill from 
> there.
>
> Running subversion from the XP poses no problem, because it looks as 
> if Apache/IE pop the digest authentication dialog.
>
> I am lurking in hope of somebody taming this beast.
>
> Håvard
>
>> From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
>> To: "Dassi, Nasser" <ND...@141xm.com>
>> CC: <us...@subversion.tigris.org>
>> Subject: Re: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:07:01 -0600
>>
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Dassi, Nasser wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I just subscribed to this list, but have read several online 
>>> archives about the subject. Please assist, I have a more-direct 
>>> question to ask:
>>>
>>> Can WebDAV + SVN 1.1.2 + SVNAutoversioning play nice on Apache 
>>> 2.0.52 + Win Svr 2003 ?
>>>
>>
>> What makes you think it wouldn't work?
>>
>> Apache runs on win32. Subversion runs on win32. Autoversioning is a 
>> feature of Subversion. All those things are documented. Why would 
>> someone need to explicitly state that such a combination works? Have 
>> you seen people saying that it didn't work? Have you tried it yourself?
>>
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Re: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...

Posted by H�vard Vold <ho...@hotmail.com>.
Sorry to say so, but I have Apache 2.0.52, Subversion 1.1.2, all running on 
Windows 2003 Server, using digest authentication, and cannot mount a 
subversion repository as a Web Folder or a network drive because Windows 
XP(SP2) pops a username/passworddialog which insists on a Windows domain 
term in the username; all downhill from there.

Running subversion from the XP poses no problem, because it looks as if 
Apache/IE pop the digest authentication dialog.

I am lurking in hope of somebody taming this beast.

H�vard

>From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
>To: "Dassi, Nasser" <ND...@141xm.com>
>CC: <us...@subversion.tigris.org>
>Subject: Re: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...
>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:07:01 -0600
>
>
>On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Dassi, Nasser wrote:
>
>>Hi, I just subscribed to this list, but have read several online archives 
>>about the subject.� Please assist, I have a more-direct question to ask:
>>�
>>Can WebDAV + SVN 1.1.2 + SVNAutoversioning play nice on Apache 2.0.52 + 
>>Win Svr 2003 ?
>>
>
>What makes you think it wouldn't work?
>
>Apache runs on win32.  Subversion runs on win32.  Autoversioning is a 
>feature of Subversion.  All those things are documented.  Why would someone 
>need to explicitly state that such a combination works?  Have you seen 
>people saying that it didn't work?  Have you tried it yourself?
>
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Re: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...

Posted by Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>.
On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Dassi, Nasser wrote:

> Hi, I just subscribed to this list, but have read several online 
> archives about the subject.  Please assist, I have a more-direct 
> question to ask:
>  
> Can WebDAV + SVN 1.1.2 + SVNAutoversioning play nice on Apache 2.0.52 
> + Win Svr 2003 ?
>

What makes you think it wouldn't work?

Apache runs on win32.  Subversion runs on win32.  Autoversioning is a 
feature of Subversion.  All those things are documented.  Why would 
someone need to explicitly state that such a combination works?  Have 
you seen people saying that it didn't work?  Have you tried it 
yourself?


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RE: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...

Posted by Clint Stotesbery <cs...@hotmail.com>.
I have that same setup except I'm using subversion 1.1.1 and it works just 
fine.
-Clint

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dassi, Nasser" <ND...@141xm.com>
To: <us...@subversion.tigris.org>
Subject: Another WebDAV+Autoversioning question...
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:34:06 -0500


Hi, I just subscribed to this list, but have read several online archives 
about the subject.  Please assist, I have a more-direct question to ask:

Can WebDAV + SVN 1.1.2 + SVNAutoversioning play nice on Apache 2.0.52 + Win 
Svr 2003 ?

There seems to not be a direct answer anywhere, and all help would be 
tremendously appreciated.

Here is the backstory: I am rebuilding our dev environment in a WinXP,MacOSX 
shop.  We develop both online and offline projects.  *Autoversioning* would 
be my ultimate in reliability for web projects, and I personally prefer an 
automated software layer doing the work in real-time (versus soft-hardware 
doing regular back-ups, which already exists on network shares and happens 
daily/nightly).

Please shed light on this question.  All documentation and list-serv threads 
lead to an answer, but all are with different circumstances (i.e. debian v. 
windows).

Thank you!

- nasser

Nasser Dassi
Sr. Technical Programmer
=========================================
E: ndassi@141xm.com
O: 212-297-8045
M: 917-747-6326
F: 212-297-8006
=========================================



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