james pop3 returns messages out of order?

[Jay Kraly <ja...@perspectivesoftware.com>]

I'm using jwebmail and james to view my mail through a wap browser and 
through a normal browser.  I've noticed that the list of messages shows 
up in seemingly random order.  With debug on I watched the pop3 logs 
from james as jwebmail requested messages and it looked like it was 
requesting the total # of items, and then doing a list on each one by 
position.  So if there were 87 messages, it would ask for 87, 86, 85, 
and so on.  The problem is that this order doesn't follow the dates on 
each message and changes over time.

My question is, how does james sort the messages and might this be 
broken when using the file store for mailboxes?  Also, maybe James is 
doing the right thing by not caring about the order and jwebmail should 
be sorting some other way?

I'm using james 2.1.2, jwebmail 0.7.10 (if it matters), j2sdk1.4.1_02, 
and redhat linux.

Thanks for any help

-J

Danny Angus wrote:

>"message" doesn't make sense for inline, as it is a complete rfc822 message, the inline equivalent is "unaltered".Message is only for attachments.(they appear as openable messages in many mail clients)
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>are you saying you're supposed to send a message with the full headers and all the message body parts un-encoded in a single text/plain message? And this isn't working with redirect <inline>all</inline>?
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>If the answer is "yes, Yes!" then you have correctly identified a bug, go to the top of the class, and report it on bugzilla.
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>Part of the solution is to use streams to output the raw message into a string and then use that as the body. Part of the probelm is that we also have to de-code content-transfer encodings, particularly base-64, otherwise base-64 encoding will become a means to cloak spam.
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>>>When forwarding spam, use a MIME attachment or text-type message with
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>>Chris, why don't you see if <inline>message</inline> will work 
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>>That forwards the original as a MIME attachment.
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RE: james pop3 returns messages out of order?

["Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>]

Jay,

During a POP3 transaction, the mailbox is represented by a vector.  The
contents of the vector are established when handling PASS, and are only
changed by RSET.  Other than that, the order should not change during a
session.

If you see anything in RFC 1939 that dictates the order within which a POP3
server should present messages, let us know.  The UIDL command is used to
provide messages with a unique identity.

I did a quick grep of jwebmail.  It uses JavaMail, which ought to issue the
UIDL for the client, but I don't see jwebmail making any use of the message
UID.  You might ask Sebastian Schaffert <schaffer AT informatik DOT
uni-muenchen DOT de> about it.

	--- Noel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Kraly [mailto:jay@perspectivesoftware.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 20:14
To: James Users List
Subject: james pop3 returns messages out of order?


I'm using jwebmail and james to view my mail through a wap browser and
through a normal browser.  I've noticed that the list of messages shows
up in seemingly random order.  With debug on I watched the pop3 logs
from james as jwebmail requested messages and it looked like it was
requesting the total # of items, and then doing a list on each one by
position.  So if there were 87 messages, it would ask for 87, 86, 85,
and so on.  The problem is that this order doesn't follow the dates on
each message and changes over time.

My question is, how does james sort the messages and might this be
broken when using the file store for mailboxes?  Also, maybe James is
doing the right thing by not caring about the order and jwebmail should
be sorting some other way?

I'm using james 2.1.2, jwebmail 0.7.10 (if it matters), j2sdk1.4.1_02,
and redhat linux.

Thanks for any help

-J


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