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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM> on 2005/12/07 21:49:25 UTC
[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo (Take 2)
OK, now the polls are *really* closd.
The logo chosen is
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote
Vote Details
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
Francois Orsini (1)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
Ryan Bobko (1)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
Brett Knightl (21)
None of the above:
Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)
TOTAL VOTES: 34
I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this
decision.
David
David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>
> Rules of engagement:
>
> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>
> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
> your choice
>
> - Please vote only once. Multiple votes by the same person will be
> discarded.
>
> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html. Anyone can cast a vote, but only
> committers have binding votes.
>
> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>
> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot. Logos
> added later will not be considered in the vote.
>
> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff vote
> of the top three vote getters.
>
> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
> Wednesday, December 7
>
> =========================
>
> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>
> 1. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>
>
> 2. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>
>
> 3. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>
>
> 4. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> 5. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>
>
> 6. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg
>
>
> 7. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
>
>
> 8. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg
>
>
> 9. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>
> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
>
> 11. [ ]
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>
>
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by John Embretsen <Jo...@Sun.COM>.
Roger Dudler wrote:
> OK, I will prepare them and put them up. I think tomorrow I can
> manage this.
>
> I will put on it an AI, EPS, PSD, The fonts, A paper with colors, A
> package with the tiny buttons
>
> Please tell me other things you also need.
While you are at it, do you think you can upload some PNG versions of
the logo?
I think PNG is convenient for use on web sites, in presentations, etc.,
and we avoid the compression artifacts of JPEG (which people otherwise
might use if they try to convert from any of the other formats you listed).
Thanks,
--
John
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by Roger Dudler <rd...@iframe.ch>.
OK, I will prepare them and put them up. I think tomorrow I can manage this.
I will put on it an AI, EPS, PSD, The fonts, A paper with colors, A
package with the tiny buttons
Please tell me other things you also need.
Roger
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
>Roger Dudler wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks...
>>
>>Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
>>or place the source images?
>>
>>
>
>Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
>committed to the Derby site svn tree.
>
>Dan.
>
>
>
>
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
>
>> Roger Dudler wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
>>> or place the source images?
>>
>> Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
>> committed to the Derby site svn tree.
>
> I just closed DERBY-297 to keep the logo contest itself separate from
> final activity. :-)
>
> I suggest creating a new Jira issue.
Roger,
I created DERBY-747 for this (
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-747 ).
cheers,
-jean
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
> Roger Dudler wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks...
>>
>>Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
>>or place the source images?
>
>
> Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
> committed to the Derby site svn tree.
I just closed DERBY-297 to keep the logo contest itself separate from
final activity. :-)
I suggest creating a new Jira issue.
I'll offer to incorporate it into the web site, but I think the first
step is to get the sublines, etc. nailed down and final images in Jira.
-jean
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
Roger Dudler wrote:
> Thanks...
>
> Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
> or place the source images?
Maybe you could upload them to DERBY-297 and then they could be
committed to the Derby site svn tree.
Dan.
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by Roger Dudler <rd...@iframe.ch>.
Thanks...
Are there ideas for any other sublines for Derby? Where should I upload
or place the source images?
And how should we put the new logo into the project, which steps are
great for the project?
Greets
Roger
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
>Roger Dudler wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
>>
>>
>
>Congratulations on winning.
>
>Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the showcase as
>separate files?
>
>And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
>Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
>using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely. Unless
>someone from Sun points out it is ok.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan.
>
>
>
>
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
"You are in a long passageway with several doors. One door is marked
LEGAL. Another is marked TRADEMARK. A third is marked LICENSING. No
one who entered any of these doors has been seen since.
Your move?"
Craig
On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:22 PM, David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> Let me look into us using the term "Java". It may be that ASF
> needs to get a license to the trademark, and then it needs to say
> "Java TM" instead of just "Java".
>
> David
>
> Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
>> Roger Dudler wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
>> Congratulations on winning.
>> Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the
>> showcase as
>> separate files?
>> And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
>> Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
>> using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely.
>> Unless
>> someone from Sun points out it is ok.
>> Thanks,
>> Dan.
>> <david.vancouvering.vcf>
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by "David W. Van Couvering" <Da...@Sun.COM>.
Let me look into us using the term "Java". It may be that ASF needs to
get a license to the trademark, and then it needs to say "Java TM"
instead of just "Java".
David
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
> Roger Dudler wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
>
>
> Congratulations on winning.
>
> Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the showcase as
> separate files?
>
> And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
> Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
> using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely. Unless
> someone from Sun points out it is ok.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan.
>
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
Roger Dudler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me.
Congratulations on winning.
Is it possible you could provide all the images shown in the showcase as
separate files?
And possibly the logo with text modified to not have the "Pure Java
Database" tag line? I think Sun Microsystems may have some issue with
using such a term, they protect the Java brand pretty fiercely. Unless
someone from Sun points out it is ok.
Thanks,
Dan.
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Roger Dudler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me. But
> since I saw your posts about the hat and other kinds of things, I have
> to say something to you.
>
> I think the main thing is that I'm actually from Switzerland and my
> english isn't that good and well: Derby ? What's this. So I think most
> people who don't speak english fluent, don't really link this word with
> a special thing like a hat or a horse race event or something other.
>
> So, the goal for the logo would be, that people who look at the skin or
> the logo of derby, can recognize: Ah, that one I know. Ok, they don't
> really care about what the logo is, they only recognize: Ah, I saw this
> one in combination with the word Derby. Mission complete...
I agree with you. After all, what links an elephant with PostgreSql?
(I've got to say that whenever I see an elephant at the zoo now I think
of PostgreSql.)
btw, Roger, I really like the simple, elegant lines in the logo you
produced. Thanks for contributing it.
-jean
> The thing with the contest: Look, this content was launched in Spring
> 04, it took a couple of month to really start the contest and the full
> process has or would take near 1 year. So, why don't you want a
> decision? The corporate design of the derby project should be here.
> Something should be here. Why spend another half year or full year to
> decide for a *little* bit better solution, when there are options here.
> Take this time to spread the word and the logo. That's the main thing.
>
> For me it's not important, that my submission won. My goal is to help
> the project itself. Maybe with ideas or prototypes or whatever. Take the
> things you like and make the best with it.
>
> Greets
> Roger
>
> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>
>> OK, now the polls are *really* closd.
>>
>> The logo chosen is
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>>
>> submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote
>>
>> Vote Details
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>>
>> Francois Orsini (1)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>>
>> Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
>>
>> Ryan Bobko (1)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>> Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>>
>> Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
>> Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
>> Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
>> Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
>> Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
>> Brett Knightl (21)
>>
>> None of the above:
>> Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
>> Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)
>>
>> TOTAL VOTES: 34
>>
>> I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this
>> decision.
>>
>> David
>>
>> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>>
>>> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>>>
>>> Rules of engagement:
>>>
>>> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>>>
>>> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
>>> your choice
>>>
>>> - Please vote only once. Multiple votes by the same person will be
>>> discarded.
>>>
>>> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
>>> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html. Anyone can cast a vote, but
>>> only committers have binding votes.
>>>
>>> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>>>
>>> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.
>>> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>>>
>>> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff
>>> vote of the top three vote getters.
>>>
>>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
>>> Wednesday, December 7
>>>
>>> =========================
>>>
>>> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>>>
>>> 1. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 6. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 7. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 8. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 9. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>>
>>> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>>>
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>>>
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> 11. [ ]
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Posted by Roger Dudler <rd...@iframe.ch>.
Hi,
Thanks for voting for my submission. That's a great result for me. But
since I saw your posts about the hat and other kinds of things, I have
to say something to you.
I think the main thing is that I'm actually from Switzerland and my
english isn't that good and well: Derby ? What's this. So I think most
people who don't speak english fluent, don't really link this word with
a special thing like a hat or a horse race event or something other.
So, the goal for the logo would be, that people who look at the skin or
the logo of derby, can recognize: Ah, that one I know. Ok, they don't
really care about what the logo is, they only recognize: Ah, I saw this
one in combination with the word Derby. Mission complete...
The thing with the contest: Look, this content was launched in Spring
04, it took a couple of month to really start the contest and the full
process has or would take near 1 year. So, why don't you want a
decision? The corporate design of the derby project should be here.
Something should be here. Why spend another half year or full year to
decide for a *little* bit better solution, when there are options here.
Take this time to spread the word and the logo. That's the main thing.
For me it's not important, that my submission won. My goal is to help
the project itself. Maybe with ideas or prototypes or whatever. Take the
things you like and make the best with it.
Greets
Roger
David W. Van Couvering wrote:
> OK, now the polls are *really* closd.
>
> The logo chosen is
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
> submitted by Roger Dudler, with 62% of the vote
>
> Vote Details
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>
> Francois Orsini (1)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>
> Lars Klausen, Henrik Johannson (2)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
>
> Ryan Bobko (1)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
> Susan Cline, Rajesh Kartha (2)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>
> Rick Hillegas, Jeff Lichtman, Samer Kanjo, David Van Couvering,
> Arthur Alexander, Craig Russell, Olav Sandstaa, Brett Dobbs,
> Jean Andersen, Ian Leslie, Myrna van Lunteren, Lance Andersen,
> Kathy Saunders, Jeremy Boynes, Tomohito Nakayama, Neal Dewing,
> Ian Leslie, Tony Seebregts, Grant Hutchison, Ramandeep Kaur,
> Brett Knightl (21)
>
> None of the above:
> Brian Smith, Oyvind Bakksjo, Bernt Johnsen, John Embretsen,
> Michelle Caisse, Andrew McIntyre, Mamta Samtoor (7)
>
> TOTAL VOTES: 34
>
> I have updated the STATUS document in the code tree to reflect this
> decision.
>
> David
>
> David W. Van Couvering wrote:
>
>> This is a vote for choosing a logo for Apache Derby.
>>
>> Rules of engagement:
>>
>> - Please vote for one and only one logo.
>>
>> - Respond to both derby-dev and derby-all and put an X to the logo of
>> your choice
>>
>> - Please vote only once. Multiple votes by the same person will be
>> discarded.
>>
>> - The vote will follow DB project guidelines at
>> http://db.apache.org/decisions.html. Anyone can cast a vote, but
>> only committers have binding votes.
>>
>> - Only entries submitted to the JIRA item DERBY-297 will be considered.
>>
>> - The list of logos is officially frozen to those on this ballot.
>> Logos added later will not be considered in the vote.
>>
>> - If no logo has more than 50% of the votes, there will be a runoff
>> vote of the top three vote getters.
>>
>> - Voting closes at 12:00 noon Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) on
>> Wednesday, December 7
>>
>> =========================
>>
>> Logo candidates (place an X by your choice).
>>
>> 1. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320870/DerbyLogo_Hat_option1.jpg
>>
>>
>> 2. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321016/DerbyLogo_Hat_option2.jpg
>>
>>
>> 3. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321017/DerbyLogo_Hat_option3.jpg
>>
>>
>> 4. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320873/DerbyLogo_text.jpg
>>
>>
>> 5. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310607/andrew-derbyhat1.jpg
>>
>>
>> 6. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310608/andrew-derbyhat2.jpg
>>
>>
>> 7. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310614/andrew-derbyknight1.jpg
>>
>>
>> 8. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12310615/andrew-derbyknight2.jpg
>>
>>
>> 9. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/20155/derby4.jpg
>>
>> 10. [ ] (these all belong together...)
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321022/derby_logo_only.jpg
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321055/roger_full_showcase.jpg
>>
>>
>> 11. [ ]
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12320752/derbyhatlogo-lettersaligned.png
>>
>>