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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com> on 2009/12/12 18:55:02 UTC
Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
----- Original Message ----
> From: Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:35:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Michael Wechner
> wrote:
> > Right and as long as OpenCMIS fulfills the requirements of the incubator I
> > don't see any reason why there shouldn't be two projects of the same topic.
> >
> > I also do not see any reason why OpenCMIS should be a sub-project of
> > Chemistry.
> > Give it a chance of its own within the current rules of the incubator and it
> > will either work or not.
> > If it works, then graduate, if not, then remove it.
>
> My concern is that if there are two separate svn trees then factoring
> things between the two projects will be much harder. Let's not kid
> ourselves, having two different maven release cycles, and having
> dependencies to foreign SNAPSHOT projects, will not help. To me it's a
> waste of time and effort.
>
> Let me ask the question differently: what's lost by having the code in
> the Chemistry svn tree?
Sovereignty over the codebase for one. At this point I don't see why people
are so concerned with the (lack of) alignment with Chemistry. If the people
who wish to work on this proposal prefer to go it alone for the time being,
so be it. If a community doesn't emerge out of one project or the other,
it's an easier decision to make at that time then it is to predict in advance
right now.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
Posted by Stefane Fermigier <sf...@nuxeo.com>.
So basically what you mean is: "competition, over collaboration" ?
S.
On Dec 12, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----
>
>> From: Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:35:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement
>> Interoperability Services (CMIS)
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Michael Wechner
>> wrote:
>>> Right and as long as OpenCMIS fulfills the requirements of the
>>> incubator I
>>> don't see any reason why there shouldn't be two projects of the
>>> same topic.
>>>
>>> I also do not see any reason why OpenCMIS should be a sub-project of
>>> Chemistry.
>>> Give it a chance of its own within the current rules of the
>>> incubator and it
>>> will either work or not.
>>> If it works, then graduate, if not, then remove it.
>>
>> My concern is that if there are two separate svn trees then factoring
>> things between the two projects will be much harder. Let's not kid
>> ourselves, having two different maven release cycles, and having
>> dependencies to foreign SNAPSHOT projects, will not help. To me
>> it's a
>> waste of time and effort.
>>
>> Let me ask the question differently: what's lost by having the code
>> in
>> the Chemistry svn tree?
>
> Sovereignty over the codebase for one. At this point I don't see
> why people
> are so concerned with the (lack of) alignment with Chemistry. If the
> people
> who wish to work on this proposal prefer to go it alone for the time
> being,
> so be it. If a community doesn't emerge out of one project or the
> other,
> it's an easier decision to make at that time then it is to predict
> in advance
> right now.
>
>
>
>
--
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Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
Web: http://www.nuxeo.com/ - Tel: +33 1 40 33 79 87
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Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
Posted by Stefane Fermigier <sf...@nuxeo.com>.
So basically what you mean is: "competition, over collaboration" ?
S.
On Dec 12, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----
>
>> From: Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:35:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement
>> Interoperability Services (CMIS)
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Michael Wechner
>> wrote:
>>> Right and as long as OpenCMIS fulfills the requirements of the
>>> incubator I
>>> don't see any reason why there shouldn't be two projects of the
>>> same topic.
>>>
>>> I also do not see any reason why OpenCMIS should be a sub-project of
>>> Chemistry.
>>> Give it a chance of its own within the current rules of the
>>> incubator and it
>>> will either work or not.
>>> If it works, then graduate, if not, then remove it.
>>
>> My concern is that if there are two separate svn trees then factoring
>> things between the two projects will be much harder. Let's not kid
>> ourselves, having two different maven release cycles, and having
>> dependencies to foreign SNAPSHOT projects, will not help. To me
>> it's a
>> waste of time and effort.
>>
>> Let me ask the question differently: what's lost by having the code
>> in
>> the Chemistry svn tree?
>
> Sovereignty over the codebase for one. At this point I don't see
> why people
> are so concerned with the (lack of) alignment with Chemistry. If the
> people
> who wish to work on this proposal prefer to go it alone for the time
> being,
> so be it. If a community doesn't emerge out of one project or the
> other,
> it's an easier decision to make at that time then it is to predict
> in advance
> right now.
>
>
>
>
--
Stefane Fermigier, Founder and Chairman, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
Web: http://www.nuxeo.com/ - Tel: +33 1 40 33 79 87
New: follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/sfermigier