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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Gordon Smith <go...@adobe.com> on 2012/07/13 22:53:06 UTC
Falcon update
Greetings, Apache Flex community!
Some of you already know me from my previous work on the Flex SDK (beginning with Flex 1.0), and my occasional comments on this list regarding the architecture of the Falcon compiler that Adobe has been developing for the last two years.
I've been watching as you put the finishing touches on the 4.8.0 parity release. Congratulations on being close!
I've also been working hard for the last several months to get Falcon ready to donate to Apache. The ActionScript functionality is complete except for integrating last-minute bugfixes that we continue to make in our mainline. I'd estimate the MXML functionality as being 85% complete. As you know, after Adobe's refocused its priorities last fall, we froze the MXML work to concentrate on completing ActionScript to shipping quality, but the MXML support hasn't regressed. As an example, Falcon can compile the SDK's non-trivial CheckinApp test, except for the Repeater tag.
The main things left before donation are revising the build script to meet Apache standards and satisfying Adobe's Legal department. I can't make any predictions on a donation date, but things seem to be moving along nicely. We'll donate various test suites later; they require more legal scrutiny than the code does.
After donation, I'll be working on Apache Falcon one day a week as an Adobe employee. My goal will be to get Falcon to the point where it can compile the Flex SWCs and then compile Mustella tests that link against those SWCs, run, and pass. I'll also be happy to work on high-priority bugs that the community identifies, such as when you try Falcon out on your own apps and find compilation problems. But I will helping to reach parity with the old compiler, not with evolving Falcon in entirely new directions. Of course, you are free to do that! (I'd suggest doing it on a branch until we reach parity.)
The areas of Falcon that need the most work are
* states (mostly implemented)
* databinding (partly implemented)
* reporting MXML semantic problems (partly implemented)
* Repeater (not implemented)
* ASDoc (not implemented)
I'll be concentrating primarily on the first two in order to reach the goal I mentioned. I hope that some of you will be interested in working on Falcon so that it reaches its potential.
I ask for your understanding as I come up to speed on Apache procedures and standards.
Gordon Smith, Adobe compiler team
Re: Falcon update
Posted by David Francis Buhler <da...@gmail.com>.
Your time and effort are greatly appreciated Gordon.
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/13/12 7:32 PM, "FRANKLIN GARZON" <fg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Congratulations, this is a good news.
>> Any people know about the compiler for our enterprice apps into HTML5?
>>
> That is scheduled to start after we donate Falcon.
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
Re: Falcon update
Posted by Raju Bitter <r....@googlemail.com>.
Thanks for the udpate, Gordon. That's very good news!
- Raju
Re: Falcon update
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 7/14/12 8:28 PM, "FRANKLIN GARZON" <fg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information Alex. If ADOBE can help us to migrate HTML5 using
> whatever other ADOBE tool will be great (I meaning near to migrate with
> minimal redo code), so our effort in the way not will be lost at 100%.
>
I have to remind folks that the FalconJS code is a prototype. It could be a
significant effort to make it useful, and I don't expect it will
automatically migrate sophisticated Flex apps. I would expect that you
might have to change plenty of code.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
RE: Falcon update
Posted by FRANKLIN GARZON <fg...@hotmail.com>.
Thanks for the information Alex. If ADOBE can help us to migrate HTML5 using whatever other ADOBE tool will be great (I meaning near to migrate with minimal redo code), so our effort in the way not will be lost at 100%.
Franklin Garzón
Regional Development Manager
MCITP Microsoft SQLServer
*Si el hombre dejara de aprender entonces dejaría de existir*
094496862
> From: aharui@adobe.com
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:15:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: Falcon update
>
>
>
>
> On 7/13/12 7:32 PM, "FRANKLIN GARZON" <fg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Congratulations, this is a good news.
> > Any people know about the compiler for our enterprice apps into HTML5?
> >
> That is scheduled to start after we donate Falcon.
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
Re: Falcon update
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 7/13/12 7:32 PM, "FRANKLIN GARZON" <fg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Congratulations, this is a good news.
> Any people know about the compiler for our enterprice apps into HTML5?
>
That is scheduled to start after we donate Falcon.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
RE: Falcon update
Posted by FRANKLIN GARZON <fg...@hotmail.com>.
Congratulations, this is a good news.
Any people know about the compiler for our enterprice apps into HTML5?
Franklin Garzón
Regional Development Manager
MCITP Microsoft SQLServer
*Si el hombre dejara de aprender entonces dejaría de existir*
094496862
> From: igorcosta@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:20:40 -0300
> Subject: Re: Falcon update
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>
> Great news by the end of week.
>
> For sure many of us at community was waiting some updates on Falcon.
>
>
> Thanks for update us.
> ----------------------------
> Igor Costa
> www.igorcosta.com
> www.igorcosta.org
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gordon!
> >
> > Very good news and very glad to hear such news from you.
> >
> > Hope all your plans evolve gracefully since Falcon is really promising.
> >
> > Apache Flex seems to be getting cruise speed! :)
> >
> > Go Apache Flex! Go! :)
> >
> > C.
> >
> >
> > 2012/7/13 Glenn Williams <in...@tinylion.co.uk>
> >
> > > Thanks and hello
> > >
> > > Im amazed and really pleased to hear that so much mxml work has already
> > > been
> > > done
> > >
> > > I was thinking we'd be starting from scratch
> > >
> > > Great news!
> > >
> > > g
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gosmith@adobe.com]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2012 21:53
> > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Cc: Peter Farland
> > > Subject: Falcon update
> > >
> > > Greetings, Apache Flex community!
> > >
> > > Some of you already know me from my previous work on the Flex SDK
> > > (beginning
> > > with Flex 1.0), and my occasional comments on this list regarding the
> > > architecture of the Falcon compiler that Adobe has been developing for
> > the
> > > last two years.
> > >
> > > I've been watching as you put the finishing touches on the 4.8.0 parity
> > > release. Congratulations on being close!
> > >
> > > I've also been working hard for the last several months to get Falcon
> > ready
> > > to donate to Apache. The ActionScript functionality is complete except
> > for
> > > integrating last-minute bugfixes that we continue to make in our
> > mainline.
> > > I'd estimate the MXML functionality as being 85% complete. As you know,
> > > after Adobe's refocused its priorities last fall, we froze the MXML work
> > to
> > > concentrate on completing ActionScript to shipping quality, but the MXML
> > > support hasn't regressed. As an example, Falcon can compile the SDK's
> > > non-trivial CheckinApp test, except for the Repeater tag.
> > >
> > > The main things left before donation are revising the build script to
> > meet
> > > Apache standards and satisfying Adobe's Legal department. I can't make
> > any
> > > predictions on a donation date, but things seem to be moving along
> > nicely.
> > > We'll donate various test suites later; they require more legal scrutiny
> > > than the code does.
> > >
> > > After donation, I'll be working on Apache Falcon one day a week as an
> > Adobe
> > > employee. My goal will be to get Falcon to the point where it can compile
> > > the Flex SWCs and then compile Mustella tests that link against those
> > SWCs,
> > > run, and pass. I'll also be happy to work on high-priority bugs that the
> > > community identifies, such as when you try Falcon out on your own apps
> > and
> > > find compilation problems. But I will helping to reach parity with the
> > old
> > > compiler, not with evolving Falcon in entirely new directions. Of course,
> > > you are free to do that! (I'd suggest doing it on a branch until we reach
> > > parity.)
> > >
> > > The areas of Falcon that need the most work are
> > >
> > > * states (mostly implemented)
> > > * databinding (partly implemented)
> > > * reporting MXML semantic problems (partly implemented)
> > > * Repeater (not implemented)
> > > * ASDoc (not implemented)
> > >
> > > I'll be concentrating primarily on the first two in order to reach the
> > goal
> > > I mentioned. I hope that some of you will be interested in working on
> > > Falcon
> > > so that it reaches its potential.
> > >
> > > I ask for your understanding as I come up to speed on Apache procedures
> > and
> > > standards.
> > >
> > > Gordon Smith, Adobe compiler team
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > Director de Tecnología
> > M: +34 607 22 60 05
> > F: +34 912 35 57 77
> > <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
> > CODEOSCOPIC S.A. <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
> > Avd. del General Perón, 32
> > Planta 10, Puertas P-Q
> > 28020 Madrid
> >
Re: Falcon update
Posted by Igor Costa <ig...@gmail.com>.
Great news by the end of week.
For sure many of us at community was waiting some updates on Falcon.
Thanks for update us.
----------------------------
Igor Costa
www.igorcosta.com
www.igorcosta.org
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> Hi Gordon!
>
> Very good news and very glad to hear such news from you.
>
> Hope all your plans evolve gracefully since Falcon is really promising.
>
> Apache Flex seems to be getting cruise speed! :)
>
> Go Apache Flex! Go! :)
>
> C.
>
>
> 2012/7/13 Glenn Williams <in...@tinylion.co.uk>
>
> > Thanks and hello
> >
> > Im amazed and really pleased to hear that so much mxml work has already
> > been
> > done
> >
> > I was thinking we'd be starting from scratch
> >
> > Great news!
> >
> > g
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gosmith@adobe.com]
> > Sent: 13 July 2012 21:53
> > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: Peter Farland
> > Subject: Falcon update
> >
> > Greetings, Apache Flex community!
> >
> > Some of you already know me from my previous work on the Flex SDK
> > (beginning
> > with Flex 1.0), and my occasional comments on this list regarding the
> > architecture of the Falcon compiler that Adobe has been developing for
> the
> > last two years.
> >
> > I've been watching as you put the finishing touches on the 4.8.0 parity
> > release. Congratulations on being close!
> >
> > I've also been working hard for the last several months to get Falcon
> ready
> > to donate to Apache. The ActionScript functionality is complete except
> for
> > integrating last-minute bugfixes that we continue to make in our
> mainline.
> > I'd estimate the MXML functionality as being 85% complete. As you know,
> > after Adobe's refocused its priorities last fall, we froze the MXML work
> to
> > concentrate on completing ActionScript to shipping quality, but the MXML
> > support hasn't regressed. As an example, Falcon can compile the SDK's
> > non-trivial CheckinApp test, except for the Repeater tag.
> >
> > The main things left before donation are revising the build script to
> meet
> > Apache standards and satisfying Adobe's Legal department. I can't make
> any
> > predictions on a donation date, but things seem to be moving along
> nicely.
> > We'll donate various test suites later; they require more legal scrutiny
> > than the code does.
> >
> > After donation, I'll be working on Apache Falcon one day a week as an
> Adobe
> > employee. My goal will be to get Falcon to the point where it can compile
> > the Flex SWCs and then compile Mustella tests that link against those
> SWCs,
> > run, and pass. I'll also be happy to work on high-priority bugs that the
> > community identifies, such as when you try Falcon out on your own apps
> and
> > find compilation problems. But I will helping to reach parity with the
> old
> > compiler, not with evolving Falcon in entirely new directions. Of course,
> > you are free to do that! (I'd suggest doing it on a branch until we reach
> > parity.)
> >
> > The areas of Falcon that need the most work are
> >
> > * states (mostly implemented)
> > * databinding (partly implemented)
> > * reporting MXML semantic problems (partly implemented)
> > * Repeater (not implemented)
> > * ASDoc (not implemented)
> >
> > I'll be concentrating primarily on the first two in order to reach the
> goal
> > I mentioned. I hope that some of you will be interested in working on
> > Falcon
> > so that it reaches its potential.
> >
> > I ask for your understanding as I come up to speed on Apache procedures
> and
> > standards.
> >
> > Gordon Smith, Adobe compiler team
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> Director de Tecnología
> M: +34 607 22 60 05
> F: +34 912 35 57 77
> <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
> CODEOSCOPIC S.A. <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
> Avd. del General Perón, 32
> Planta 10, Puertas P-Q
> 28020 Madrid
>
Re: Falcon update
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Hi Gordon!
Very good news and very glad to hear such news from you.
Hope all your plans evolve gracefully since Falcon is really promising.
Apache Flex seems to be getting cruise speed! :)
Go Apache Flex! Go! :)
C.
2012/7/13 Glenn Williams <in...@tinylion.co.uk>
> Thanks and hello
>
> Im amazed and really pleased to hear that so much mxml work has already
> been
> done
>
> I was thinking we'd be starting from scratch
>
> Great news!
>
> g
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gosmith@adobe.com]
> Sent: 13 July 2012 21:53
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Peter Farland
> Subject: Falcon update
>
> Greetings, Apache Flex community!
>
> Some of you already know me from my previous work on the Flex SDK
> (beginning
> with Flex 1.0), and my occasional comments on this list regarding the
> architecture of the Falcon compiler that Adobe has been developing for the
> last two years.
>
> I've been watching as you put the finishing touches on the 4.8.0 parity
> release. Congratulations on being close!
>
> I've also been working hard for the last several months to get Falcon ready
> to donate to Apache. The ActionScript functionality is complete except for
> integrating last-minute bugfixes that we continue to make in our mainline.
> I'd estimate the MXML functionality as being 85% complete. As you know,
> after Adobe's refocused its priorities last fall, we froze the MXML work to
> concentrate on completing ActionScript to shipping quality, but the MXML
> support hasn't regressed. As an example, Falcon can compile the SDK's
> non-trivial CheckinApp test, except for the Repeater tag.
>
> The main things left before donation are revising the build script to meet
> Apache standards and satisfying Adobe's Legal department. I can't make any
> predictions on a donation date, but things seem to be moving along nicely.
> We'll donate various test suites later; they require more legal scrutiny
> than the code does.
>
> After donation, I'll be working on Apache Falcon one day a week as an Adobe
> employee. My goal will be to get Falcon to the point where it can compile
> the Flex SWCs and then compile Mustella tests that link against those SWCs,
> run, and pass. I'll also be happy to work on high-priority bugs that the
> community identifies, such as when you try Falcon out on your own apps and
> find compilation problems. But I will helping to reach parity with the old
> compiler, not with evolving Falcon in entirely new directions. Of course,
> you are free to do that! (I'd suggest doing it on a branch until we reach
> parity.)
>
> The areas of Falcon that need the most work are
>
> * states (mostly implemented)
> * databinding (partly implemented)
> * reporting MXML semantic problems (partly implemented)
> * Repeater (not implemented)
> * ASDoc (not implemented)
>
> I'll be concentrating primarily on the first two in order to reach the goal
> I mentioned. I hope that some of you will be interested in working on
> Falcon
> so that it reaches its potential.
>
> I ask for your understanding as I come up to speed on Apache procedures and
> standards.
>
> Gordon Smith, Adobe compiler team
>
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
Director de Tecnología
M: +34 607 22 60 05
F: +34 912 35 57 77
<http://www.codeoscopic.com>
CODEOSCOPIC S.A. <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
Avd. del General Perón, 32
Planta 10, Puertas P-Q
28020 Madrid
RE: Falcon update
Posted by Glenn Williams <in...@tinylion.co.uk>.
Thanks and hello
Im amazed and really pleased to hear that so much mxml work has already been
done
I was thinking we'd be starting from scratch
Great news!
g
-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gosmith@adobe.com]
Sent: 13 July 2012 21:53
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Peter Farland
Subject: Falcon update
Greetings, Apache Flex community!
Some of you already know me from my previous work on the Flex SDK (beginning
with Flex 1.0), and my occasional comments on this list regarding the
architecture of the Falcon compiler that Adobe has been developing for the
last two years.
I've been watching as you put the finishing touches on the 4.8.0 parity
release. Congratulations on being close!
I've also been working hard for the last several months to get Falcon ready
to donate to Apache. The ActionScript functionality is complete except for
integrating last-minute bugfixes that we continue to make in our mainline.
I'd estimate the MXML functionality as being 85% complete. As you know,
after Adobe's refocused its priorities last fall, we froze the MXML work to
concentrate on completing ActionScript to shipping quality, but the MXML
support hasn't regressed. As an example, Falcon can compile the SDK's
non-trivial CheckinApp test, except for the Repeater tag.
The main things left before donation are revising the build script to meet
Apache standards and satisfying Adobe's Legal department. I can't make any
predictions on a donation date, but things seem to be moving along nicely.
We'll donate various test suites later; they require more legal scrutiny
than the code does.
After donation, I'll be working on Apache Falcon one day a week as an Adobe
employee. My goal will be to get Falcon to the point where it can compile
the Flex SWCs and then compile Mustella tests that link against those SWCs,
run, and pass. I'll also be happy to work on high-priority bugs that the
community identifies, such as when you try Falcon out on your own apps and
find compilation problems. But I will helping to reach parity with the old
compiler, not with evolving Falcon in entirely new directions. Of course,
you are free to do that! (I'd suggest doing it on a branch until we reach
parity.)
The areas of Falcon that need the most work are
* states (mostly implemented)
* databinding (partly implemented)
* reporting MXML semantic problems (partly implemented)
* Repeater (not implemented)
* ASDoc (not implemented)
I'll be concentrating primarily on the first two in order to reach the goal
I mentioned. I hope that some of you will be interested in working on Falcon
so that it reaches its potential.
I ask for your understanding as I come up to speed on Apache procedures and
standards.
Gordon Smith, Adobe compiler team