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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> on 2015/03/01 22:06:18 UTC

Re: Maven 3.2.6

Hi,

I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation. There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter those slightly before the final release.

So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be looked at as well.

So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in small fixes.

On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:

> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So tentatively hope to be done this weekend.
> 
> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work -
>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and no
>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>> 
>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>> change of the VM-argument name.
>> 
>> 
>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>> 
>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge anyway so
>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>> with
>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files
>>> in
>>>> the next minor release?
>>>> 
>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>> based
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason
>>> to
>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me
>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Anders
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>> change
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his
>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm
>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step
>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>> run
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows
>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>> able
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>> one
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>> or
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.

Wagon fails on my Windows machine, so I can't release it, otherwise I  
would.
Based on my interpretations of the changes on Wagon it should fix the  
deploy issues with ssh.

Robert


Op Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:36:48 +0100 schreef Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com>:

> FYI, i think Robert configure wagon to use 2.9-SNAPSHOT to test out ssh
> hanging issue. We can either release wagon and downgrade wagon back to  
> 2.8
>
> Thanks
>
> -D
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>
>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>> > I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Hervé
>> >
>> > Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>> >> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
>> interested.
>> >> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try  
>> to
>> get
>> >> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
>> around
>> >> to meeting.
>> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Jason,
>> >>>
>> >>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
>> possible to
>> >>> take a look into it...
>> >>>
>> >>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Kind regards
>> >>> Karl Heinz
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
>> But I
>> >>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing  
>> documentation.
>> >>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might  
>> alter
>> >>>> those slightly before the final release.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about  
>> other
>> bits
>> >>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
>> and
>> >>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a  
>> few
>> >>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>> >>>> looked at as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get  
>> in
>> >>>> small fixes.>>
>> >>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>> >>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get  
>> in.
>> So
>> >>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems  
>> to
>> work
>> >>>>>> -
>> >>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
>> and
>> >>>>>> no
>> >>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit  
>> with
>> the
>> >>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>> >>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>> >>>>>>> anyway so
>> >>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
>> versions
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the  
>> bat
>> >>>>>>>> files
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
>> anyway
>> >>>>>>>> ;-).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <
>> anders@hammar.net
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these  
>> .bat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that  
>> are
>> not
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> based
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is  
>> no
>> >>>>>>>>>>> reason
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped  
>> win
>> >>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>> >>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
>> System
>> >>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>> >>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release  
>> notes.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> /Anders
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK  
>> 1.7
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> requires a
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3  
>> [2].
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>> >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>> >>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
>> hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>> >>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the  
>> patch
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> should
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <
>> igor@ifedorenko.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but  
>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> changes
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> contains
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> multi-module
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config  
>> file
>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> present
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
>> its
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> content
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> environment
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make  
>> similar
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> change
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>  
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that  
>> limits
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
>> what
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> level
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com  
>> <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
>> <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
>> 3.3.0
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
>> others
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> far
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
>> time
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> was
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is  
>> still a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> requirements
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
>> 8gb to
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> run
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
>> they
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> run
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
>> out
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
>> isn't a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> single
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
>> capabilities
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
>> feature
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> going
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
>> Windows,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> don't
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> want
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
>> gradual
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows  
>> users
>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> was
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> support
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
>> being
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> able
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen  
>> JANSI
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> working
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make  
>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>> >>>>>>>>> aheritier
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from  
>> concrete
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> examples.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
>> paper
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> without
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
>> failure. No
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> one
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
>> it by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> looking
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
>> Difficult
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>> >>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jason
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>> >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>> >>
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com>.

FYI, i think Robert configure wagon to use 2.9-SNAPSHOT to test out ssh
hanging issue. We can either release wagon and downgrade wagon back to 2.8

Thanks

-D

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:

> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> > I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> interested.
> >> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
> get
> >> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> around
> >> to meeting.
> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi Jason,
> >>>
> >>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> possible to
> >>> take a look into it...
> >>>
> >>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>> Karl Heinz
> >>>
> >>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> But I
> >>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
> >>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
> >>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>
> >>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
> bits
> >>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> and
> >>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
> >>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
> >>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in.
> So
> >>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to
> work
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> and
> >>>>>> no
> >>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with
> the
> >>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> versions
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
> >>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> anyway
> >>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <
> anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are
> not
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
> >>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> System
> >>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> >>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
> hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> >>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <
> igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file
> is
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> its
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> what
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> they
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users
> that
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> being
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Shakespeare
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> >>>>
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> >>>
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> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
> >>
> >> -- Chinese Proverb
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

yes, the fix did it: I just closed MNG-5779
(the build failure was during install phase, since checkstyle:check happens 
there)

thank you

Hervé

Le jeudi 5 mars 2015 08:00:31 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> Did you try it again, worked for me locally now with the last change.
> 
> I just kicked off a 3 hour testing process for the new 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT so
> I'll be more confident after that works.
> 
> I'd really like to bump up to Java 1.7 as well before the release. I think
> it's an appropriate time given the bump to 3.3.0 and the imminent EOL of
> Java 1.7. I don't think I know anyone left running 1.6.
> On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> > I just tried to build Maven core 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT with itself and got a
> > failure like MNG-5779 (which was at the moment supposed to be only during
> > reporting)
> > 
> > Can others try and confirm, please?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Hervé
> > 
> > Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow.
> >> Today
> >> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
> >> 
> >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
wrote:
> >>> Hi Jason,
> >>> 
> >>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> >>> 
> >>> I'm available ....
> >>> 
> >>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> >>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> 
wrote:
> >>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hervé
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> >>>>>> interested.
> >>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> >>>>>> around
> >>>>>> to meeting.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> >>>>>>> possible to
> >>>>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> >>>>>>>> But I
> >>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> >>>>>>>> documentation.
> >>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> >>>>>>>> alter
> >>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> >>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> bits
> >>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> >>>>>>>> few
> >>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> >>>>>>>>> in.
> >>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/co
> >>>>>>>>>>> m.
> >>>>>>>>>>> ibm.
> >>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequireme
> >>>>>>>>>>> nt
> >>>>>>>>>>> s.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
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> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
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> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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> >>>> leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing. To
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

Did you try it again, worked for me locally now with the last change.

I just kicked off a 3 hour testing process for the new 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT so I'll be more confident after that works.

I'd really like to bump up to Java 1.7 as well before the release. I think it's an appropriate time given the bump to 3.3.0 and the imminent EOL of Java 1.7. I don't think I know anyone left running 1.6.

On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:

> I just tried to build Maven core 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT with itself and got a failure 
> like MNG-5779 (which was at the moment supposed to be only during reporting)
> 
> Can others try and confirm, please?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hervé
> 
> Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today
>> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Jason,
>>> 
>>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
>>> 
>>> I'm available ....
>>> 
>>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
>>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hervé
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> to meeting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
>>>>>>> possible to
>>>>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
>>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
>>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
>>>>>>>> alter
>>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
>>>>>>>> bits
>>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in.
>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
>>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to
>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
>>>>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> bat
>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> System
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.
>>>>>>>>>>> ibm.
>>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement
>>>>>>>>>>> s.ht
>>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Chinese Proverb
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work
>>>> and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
>>>> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
>>>> pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and
>>>> leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself,
>>>> he always appears to be doing both.>> 
>>>>  -- François-René de Chateaubriand
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>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> 
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>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
>> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

I just tried to build Maven core 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT with itself and got a failure 
like MNG-5779 (which was at the moment supposed to be only during reporting)

Can others try and confirm, please?

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today
> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> > 
> > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> > 
> > I'm available ....
> > 
> > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> >> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>> 
> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> 
> >>> Hervé
> >>> 
> >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> >>>> interested.
> >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
> >>>> get
> >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> >>>> around
> >>>> to meeting.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> >>>>> possible to
> >>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> >>>>>> But I
> >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> >>>>>> documentation.
> >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> >>>>>> alter
> >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
> >>>>>> bits
> >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> >>>>>> few
> >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
> >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in.
> >>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to
> >>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> >>>>>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> >>>>>>>>>> bat
> >>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> >>>>>>>>>> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> >>>>>>>>>>>> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.
> >>>>>>>>> ibm.
> >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement
> >>>>>>>>> s.ht
> >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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> >>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Jason
> >> 
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work
> >> and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
> >> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
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> 
> Jason
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

since nobody in the issue seems to make tests, and you're right that wagon-ssh 
version is chosen by the user (we're expecting good compatibility), this 
upgrade in core doesn't seem critical

unless someone makes tests and shows that the wagon modules brought by Maven 
core continues to make wagons-scp break (for unknown reason)...

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:12:56 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> I think it makes more sense to roll back, the SSH wagon isn't shipped with
> the core so a user can just take the new SSH wagon when it's released.
> Users of the distribution are not going to be affected by rolling back to
> 2.8.
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> > from comment in pom.xml, this is related to
> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5605
> > 
> > rolling back seems we would miss one blocker issue with 9 votes
> > 
> > I asked on the issue for someone to confirm that it is fixed by the wagon
> > update: when confirmed, we'll see the question of who does the release
> > (which is not the hardest once we're sure we have a good reason to do it)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Hervé
> > 
> > Le mardi 3 mars 2015 21:28:34 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >> Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8
> >> for the 3.2.6 release?
> >> 
> >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
wrote:
> >>> Hi Jason,
> >>> 
> >>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> >>> 
> >>> I'm available ....
> >>> 
> >>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> >>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> 
wrote:
> >>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hervé
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> >>>>>> interested.
> >>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> >>>>>> around
> >>>>>> to meeting.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> >>>>>>> possible to
> >>>>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> >>>>>>>> But I
> >>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> >>>>>>>> documentation.
> >>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> >>>>>>>> alter
> >>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> >>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> bits
> >>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> >>>>>>>> few
> >>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> >>>>>>>>> in.
> >>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/co
> >>>>>>>>>>> m.
> >>>>>>>>>>> ibm.
> >>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequireme
> >>>>>>>>>>> nt
> >>>>>>>>>>> s.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> For
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

I think it makes more sense to roll back, the SSH wagon isn't shipped with the core so a user can just take the new SSH wagon when it's released. Users of the distribution are not going to be affected by rolling back to 2.8.

On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:13 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:

> from comment in pom.xml, this is related to 
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5605
> 
> rolling back seems we would miss one blocker issue with 9 votes
> 
> I asked on the issue for someone to confirm that it is fixed by the wagon 
> update: when confirmed, we'll see the question of who does the release (which 
> is not the hardest once we're sure we have a good reason to do it)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hervé
> 
> Le mardi 3 mars 2015 21:28:34 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>> Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8 for
>> the 3.2.6 release?
>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Jason,
>>> 
>>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
>>> 
>>> I'm available ....
>>> 
>>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
>>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hervé
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> to meeting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
>>>>>>> possible to
>>>>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
>>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
>>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
>>>>>>>> alter
>>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
>>>>>>>> bits
>>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in.
>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
>>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to
>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
>>>>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> bat
>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> System
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.
>>>>>>>>>>> ibm.
>>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement
>>>>>>>>>>> s.ht
>>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Chinese Proverb
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work
>>>> and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
>>>> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
>>>> pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and
>>>> leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself,
>>>> he always appears to be doing both.>> 
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>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

from comment in pom.xml, this is related to 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5605

rolling back seems we would miss one blocker issue with 9 votes

I asked on the issue for someone to confirm that it is fixed by the wagon 
update: when confirmed, we'll see the question of who does the release (which 
is not the hardest once we're sure we have a good reason to do it)

Regards,

Hervé

Le mardi 3 mars 2015 21:28:34 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8 for
> the 3.2.6 release?
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> > 
> > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> > 
> > I'm available ....
> > 
> > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> >> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>> 
> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> 
> >>> Hervé
> >>> 
> >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> >>>> interested.
> >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
> >>>> get
> >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> >>>> around
> >>>> to meeting.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> >>>>> possible to
> >>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> >>>>>> But I
> >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> >>>>>> documentation.
> >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> >>>>>> alter
> >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
> >>>>>> bits
> >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> >>>>>> few
> >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
> >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in.
> >>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to
> >>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> >>>>>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> >>>>>>>>>> bat
> >>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> >>>>>>>>>> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> >>>>>>>>>>>> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.
> >>>>>>>>> ibm.
> >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement
> >>>>>>>>> s.ht
> >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

Le jeudi 5 mars 2015 08:23:43 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> > At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow.
> 
> +1
> 
> > Today
> > I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
> 
> where is the documentation you're working on, please? multiple eyes and
> brains can be useful (and I want to improve this part, since I didn't grasp
> yet what has been done in code)
I started little documentation on core-extensions descriptor [1]
but this requires enhancements: IIUC, there are other files in .mvn

We need a minimum documentation in Maven core documentation, at least on file 
formats

Regards,

Hervé


> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hervé

[1] http://maven.apache.org/ref/3-LATEST/maven-embedder/core-extensions.html

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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow.
+1

> Today
> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
where is the documentation you're working on, please? multiple eyes and brains 
can be useful (and I want to improve this part, since I didn't grasp yet what 
has been done in code)

Regards,

Hervé

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> > 
> > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> > 
> > I'm available ....
> > 
> > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> >> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>> 
> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> 
> >>> Hervé
> >>> 
> >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> >>>> interested.
> >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to
> >>>> get
> >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> >>>> around
> >>>> to meeting.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> 
wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> >>>>> possible to
> >>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> >>>>>> But I
> >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> >>>>>> documentation.
> >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> >>>>>> alter
> >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other
> >>>>>> bits
> >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> >>>>>> few
> >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
> >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in.
> >>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to
> >>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian
> >>>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> >>>>>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> >>>>>>>>>> bat
> >>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> >>>>>>>>>> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> >>>>>>>>>>>> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.
> >>>>>>>>> ibm.
> >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement
> >>>>>>>>> s.ht
> >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
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> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Jason
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> >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.

Hi Jason,

On 3/4/15 4:14 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.

Sure....that's better....


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
>>
>> I'm available ....
>>
>>
>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Hervé
>>>>
>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
>>>>> to meeting.
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
>>>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
>>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Jason
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>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Chinese Proverb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
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>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>>>
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>>>
>>>    -- François-René de Chateaubriand
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.

On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
> 
> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> 
> I'm available ....
> 
> 
> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Hervé
>>> 
>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
>>>> to meeting.
>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>> 
>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
>>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>> 
>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -- Shakespeare
>>>>> 
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Chinese Proverb
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself, he always appears to be doing both.
>> 
>>   -- François-René de Chateaubriand
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

MNG-5778 created (quick and dirty: content to be improved with links to ML, 
key feature Jira issues)

and of course, to be fixed by somebody: I don't have time at the moment, but 
I'll do it later if nobody beats me at it

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:00:07 Anders Hammar a écrit :
> So it's not going to be v3.3.0?
> 
> /Anders (mobile)
> 
> Den 4 mar 2015 06:31 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@takari.io>:
> > Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8
> > for the 3.2.6 release?
> > 
> > On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Jason,
> > > 
> > > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> > > 
> > > I'm available ....
> > > 
> > > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> > 
> > work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
> > 
> > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> > >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> > >>> 
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hervé
> > >>> 
> > >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> > >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> > 
> > interested.
> > 
> > >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> > 
> > to get
> > 
> > >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> > 
> > around
> > 
> > >>>> to meeting.
> > >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Jason,
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> > 
> > possible to
> > 
> > >>>>> take a look into it...
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Kind regards
> > >>>>> Karl Heinz
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> > 
> > But I
> > 
> > >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> > 
> > documentation.
> > 
> > >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> > 
> > alter
> > 
> > >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> > 
> > other bits
> > 
> > >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> > 
> > few
> > 
> > >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> > >>>>>> looked at as well.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> > 
> > in. So
> > 
> > >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > 
> > andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> > 
> > to work
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> no
> > >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> > 
> > with the
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > 
> > andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> > >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> > >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> > 
> > versions
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> > 
> > bat
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>> files
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> > 
> > anyway
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <
> > 
> > anders@hammar.net
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> > 
> > are not
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> based
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> > 
> > win
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> > 
> > System
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> > 
> > notes.
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> > 
> > 1.7
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> > 
> > [2].
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > 
> > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > 
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
> > 
> > hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> > 
> > patch
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <
> > 
> > igor@ifedorenko.com
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> > 
> > that
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> > 
> > file is
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> > 
> > its
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> > 
> > similar
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> change
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > 
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> > 
> > limits
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> > 
> > what
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> > 
> > <javascript:;>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> > 
> > <javascript:;>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> > 
> > 3.3.0
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> > 
> > others
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> > 
> > time
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> > 
> > still a
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> > 
> > 8gb to
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> > 
> > they
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> > 
> > out
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> > 
> > isn't a
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> > 
> > capabilities
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> > 
> > feature
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> > 
> > Windows,
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> > 
> > gradual
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> > 
> > users that
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> > 
> > being
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> able
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> > 
> > JANSI
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> > >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> > 
> > concrete
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> > 
> > paper
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> > 
> > failure. No
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> > 
> > it by
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> > 
> > Difficult
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> > 
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> > >>>>>>>>> 
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> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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> > >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>> 
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> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
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> > >> Thanks,
> > >> 
> > >> Jason
> > >> 
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Jason van Zyl
> > >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >> 
> > >> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his
> > 
> > work and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
> > education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
> > pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves
> > others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself, he
> > always
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.

yes 3.3.0 please

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Anders Hammar <an...@hammar.net> wrote:

> So it's not going to be v3.3.0?
>
> /Anders (mobile)
> Den 4 mar 2015 06:31 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@takari.io>:
>
> > Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8
> > for the 3.2.6 release?
> >
> > On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jason,
> > >
> > > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> > >
> > > I'm available ....
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday
> didn't
> > work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> > >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Hervé
> > >>>
> > >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> > >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> > interested.
> > >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> > to get
> > >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> > around
> > >>>> to meeting.
> > >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Jason,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> > possible to
> > >>>>> take a look into it...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kind regards
> > >>>>> Karl Heinz
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> > But I
> > >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> > documentation.
> > >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> > alter
> > >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> > other bits
> > >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go
> through
> > and
> > >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> > few
> > >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> > >>>>>> looked at as well.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> > in
> > >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> > >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> > in. So
> > >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> > to work
> > >>>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right
> parameters
> > and
> > >>>>>>>> no
> > >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> > with the
> > >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to
> merge
> > >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> > >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> > versions
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> > bat
> > >>>>>>>>>> files
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> > anyway
> > >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <
> > anders@hammar.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these
> .bat
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> > are not
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> based
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is
> no
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> > win
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> > System
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> > notes.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> > 1.7
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> > [2].
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> > >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
> > hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> > >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> > patch
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <
> > igor@ifedorenko.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> > the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent
> directory
> > that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> > file is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root,
> use
> > its
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> > similar
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> change
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> > limits
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people
> determine
> > what
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office:
> +1.972.963.2872
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile:
> +1.469.556.9450
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> > <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> > 3.3.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> > others
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> > time
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> > still a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> > 8gb to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the
> documentation
> > they
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure
> it
> > out
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> > isn't a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> > capabilities
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> > feature
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> > Windows,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> > gradual
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> > users that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in
> logs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> > being
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> able
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> > JANSI
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to
> make a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype
> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> > concrete
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> > paper
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> > failure. No
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you
> develop
> > it by
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> > Difficult
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  -- Shakespeare
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jason
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -- Chinese Proverb
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Jason van Zyl
> > >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his
> > work and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
> > education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
> > pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves
> > others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself, he
> always
> > appears to be doing both.
> > >>
> > >>   -- François-René de Chateaubriand
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Mit freundlichem Gruß
> > > Karl-Heinz Marbaise
> > > --
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> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jason van Zyl
> > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> >
> >  -- Shakespeare
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Anders Hammar <an...@hammar.net>.

So it's not going to be v3.3.0?

/Anders (mobile)
Den 4 mar 2015 06:31 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@takari.io>:

> Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8
> for the 3.2.6 release?
>
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> >
> > I'm available ....
> >
> >
> > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
> >>
> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Hervé
> >>>
> >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> interested.
> >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> to get
> >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> around
> >>>> to meeting.
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> possible to
> >>>>> take a look into it...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>> Karl Heinz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> But I
> >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> documentation.
> >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> alter
> >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> other bits
> >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> and
> >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> few
> >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >>>>>> looked at as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> in
> >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> in. So
> >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> to work
> >>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> and
> >>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> with the
> >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> versions
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> bat
> >>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> anyway
> >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <
> anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> are not
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> win
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> System
> >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> notes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> 1.7
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
> hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <
> igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> file is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> similar
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> still a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> 8gb to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> Windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> users that
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> JANSI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> concrete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> paper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> failure. No
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> it by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> Difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> >>>>>>
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> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his
> work and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
> pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves
> others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself, he always
> appears to be doing both.
> >>
> >>   -- François-René de Chateaubriand
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8 for the 3.2.6 release?

On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
> 
> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> 
> I'm available ....
> 
> 
> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Hervé
>>> 
>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
>>>> to meeting.
>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>> 
>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
>>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>> 
>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
>>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
>>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>> 
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.

Hi Jason,

at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...

I'm available ....


On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
>
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hervé
>>
>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
>>> to meeting.
>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
>>>> take a look into it...
>>>>
>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Karl Heinz
>>>>
>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>>> looked at as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>>> small fixes.>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
>>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?

On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:

> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hervé
> 
> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
>> to meeting.
>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Jason,
>>> 
>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
>>> take a look into it...
>>> 
>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Karl Heinz
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
>>>> those slightly before the final release.
>>>> 
>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
>>>> looked at as well.
>>>> 
>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
>>>> small fixes.>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
>>>>>>> anyway so
>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
>>>>>>>> ;-).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
>>>>>>> ml>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>>>>> 
>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
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>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>>>> 
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>> 
>> Jason
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>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.

I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)

Regards,

Hervé

Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
> to meeting.
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> > 
> > are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
> > take a look into it...
> > 
> > And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > Karl Heinz
> > 
> > On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
> >> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
> >> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
> >> those slightly before the final release.
> >> 
> >> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
> >> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
> >> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
> >> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> >> looked at as well.
> >> 
> >> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
> >> small fixes.>> 
> >> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
> >>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
> >>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>> 
> >>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
> >>>> -
> >>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
> >>>> no
> >>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> >>>> 
> >>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
> >>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
> >>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> >>>>> anyway so
> >>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
> >>>>>> files
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> the next minor release?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
> >>>>>> ;-).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
> >>>>>>>>>> scripts
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
> >>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
> >>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> >>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
> >>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> >>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> >>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> >>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> >>>>> ml>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> multi-module
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> present
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> level
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> requirements
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> works.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> working
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>> aheritier
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> examples.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

I'll squash them and merge them as a feature commit for each shortly.

On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
> 
> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to take a look into it...
> 
> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz
> 
> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation. There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter those slightly before the final release.
>> 
>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be looked at as well.
>> 
>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in small fixes.
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>> 
>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So tentatively hope to be done this weekend.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work -
>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and no
>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge anyway so
>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>> with
>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files
>>>>> in
>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me
>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his
>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm
>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step
>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows
>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>> or
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>.

We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested. I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around to meeting.

On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
> 
> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to take a look into it...
> 
> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz
> 
> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation. There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter those slightly before the final release.
>> 
>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be looked at as well.
>> 
>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in small fixes.
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>> 
>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So tentatively hope to be done this weekend.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work -
>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and no
>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge anyway so
>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>>> with
>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files
>>>>> in
>>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me
>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his
>>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm
>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step
>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows
>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>> or
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
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Re: Maven 3.2.6

Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.

Hi Jason,

are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible 
to take a look into it...

And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...


Kind regards
Karl Heinz

On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation. There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter those slightly before the final release.
>
> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be looked at as well.
>
> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in small fixes.
>
> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>
>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So tentatively hope to be done this weekend.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work -
>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and no
>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
>>>
>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
>>> change of the VM-argument name.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge anyway so
>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions
>>>> with
>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files
>>>> in
>>>>> the next minor release?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <anders@hammar.net
>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not
>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me
>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7
>>>>>> requires a
>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch
>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <igor@ifedorenko.com
>>>>>> <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the
>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that
>>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
>>>>>> multi-module
>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is
>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its
>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar
>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his
>>>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io <javascript:;>
>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm
>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step
>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
>>>>>> requirements
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to
>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they
>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a
>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>> Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual
>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows
>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being
>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> fine on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
>>>>>> aheritier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete
>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> look at,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
>>>>>>> Frameworks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
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>>>> Thanks,
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>>>> Jason
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