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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
>      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
>
>
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
>
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
>
> Summary:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Junping
>
>
>
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >
> > And here's calendar file:
> >
> >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >
> > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
> > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
> > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
> >
> > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > interested:
> >
> > [image: image.png]
> >
> > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.
+1

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >
> > > And here's calendar file:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >
> > > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> > > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> > > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> > >
> > > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > [image: image.png]
> > >
> > > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wangda
> > >
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I just updated schedules, which takes effect next week. now it looks like:

[image: image.png]

I made sure that no two YARN sync ups nor two HDFS sync ups on the same day.

Please check the calendar to see if you have any questions:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ>

Thanks,
Wangda



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Susheel Kumar Gadalay <sk...@gmail.com>.
Please remove user@hadoop from this mail list.
It is specific to dev team only.

Thanks
SK

On Friday, August 23, 2019, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.
> I will update it tonight if possible.
>
> Best,
> Wangda
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Wangda and Eric,
>> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
>> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
>> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>>
>> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
>> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>>
>> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
PDT / 10am PST would be best.
>> —Matt
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>>
>> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
>> -Eric Payne
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
10am
>> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
>> >
>> > Hi Matt,
>> >
>> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
>> >
>> > Basically there’re two options:
>> >
>> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
>> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
>> >
>> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
you
>> > mentioned.
>> >
>> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
>> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
>> >
>> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Wangda
>>
>>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.

I will update it tonight if possible.

Best,
Wangda

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I just updated schedules, which takes effect next week. now it looks like:

[image: image.png]

I made sure that no two YARN sync ups nor two HDFS sync ups on the same day.

Please check the calendar to see if you have any questions:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ>

Thanks,
Wangda



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I just updated schedules, which takes effect next week. now it looks like:

[image: image.png]

I made sure that no two YARN sync ups nor two HDFS sync ups on the same day.

Please check the calendar to see if you have any questions:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ>

Thanks,
Wangda



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I just updated schedules, which takes effect next week. now it looks like:

[image: image.png]

I made sure that no two YARN sync ups nor two HDFS sync ups on the same day.

Please check the calendar to see if you have any questions:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ>

Thanks,
Wangda



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.

I will update it tonight if possible.

Best,
Wangda

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I just updated schedules, which takes effect next week. now it looks like:

[image: image.png]

I made sure that no two YARN sync ups nor two HDFS sync ups on the same day.

Please check the calendar to see if you have any questions:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ>

Thanks,
Wangda



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I just updated schedules, which takes effect next week. now it looks like:

[image: image.png]

I made sure that no two YARN sync ups nor two HDFS sync ups on the same day.

Please check the calendar to see if you have any questions:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/b/3?cid=aGFkb29wLmNvbW11bml0eS5zeW5jLnVwQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ>

Thanks,
Wangda



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.

I will update it tonight if possible.

Best,
Wangda

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.

I will update it tonight if possible.

Best,
Wangda

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.

I will update it tonight if possible.

Best,
Wangda

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good, let me make the changes to do simply bi-weekly then.

I will update it tonight if possible.

Best,
Wangda

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Wangda and Eric,
> We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
> - monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
> - monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.
>
> This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
> But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.
>
> I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use
> Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently
> do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am
> PDT / 10am PST would be best.
> —Matt
>
> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:
>
> Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3
> sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
> -Eric Payne
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
> 10am
> > PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> >
> > Basically there’re two options:
> >
> > - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> > - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> >
> > I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue
> you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> > audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> >
> > If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
>
>
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Wangda and Eric,
We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
- monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
- monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.

This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.

I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am PDT / 10am PST would be best.
—Matt

On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:

Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Wangda and Eric,
We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
- monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
- monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.

This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.

I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am PDT / 10am PST would be best.
—Matt

On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:

Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Wangda and Eric,
We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
- monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
- monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.

This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.

I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am PDT / 10am PST would be best.
—Matt

On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:

Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Wangda and Eric,
We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
- monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
- monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.

This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.

I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am PDT / 10am PST would be best.
—Matt

On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:

Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Wangda and Eric,
We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
- monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
- monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.

This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.

I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am PDT / 10am PST would be best.
—Matt

On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:

Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Wangda and Eric,
We can express the intent, I think, by scheduling two recurring meetings:
- monthly, on the 2nd Wednesday, and
- monthly, on the 4th Wednesday.

This is pretty easy to understand, and not too onerous to maintain.
But I’m okay with simple bi-weekly too.

I’m neutral on 10 vs 11am, PDT.  But do all participants presently use Daylight Savings and change on the same date?  Because I can’t conveniently do 9am PST, so if it needs to stay fixed in, say, India Timezone, then 11am PDT / 10am PST would be best.
—Matt

On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:33 AM, epayne@apache.org wrote:

Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wheeleast@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Manikandan R <ma...@gmail.com>.
>> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
10am
PDT will be better?

+1 for 10 am PDT

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:31 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
>
> Basically there’re two options:
>
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
>
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
>
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
>
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
> >
> > > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> > instead of
> > > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> > and
> > > it will take effect starting next week.
> >
> > I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> > that’s not the intent.
> > Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> > month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are
> not
> > the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
> >
> > As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> > of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second
> Wednesday
> > of the month”.
> >
> > But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity.
> :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > —Matt
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline
> and
> > got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups
> and
> > talked to organizers.
> >
> > Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> > joined):
> > - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> > - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> > - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> >
> > Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> > - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> > - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> > - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> >
> > Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> > times).
> > - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> > - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> >
> > *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule:
> *
> > 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> > who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> > 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> > developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> > resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> > 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> > most of the west-cost folks.
> >
> > *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead
> of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
> >
> > Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> > community contributions grow in the last one month!
> >
> > Any thoughts about the proposal?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > > welcome to join:
> > >
> > >
> > > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> > >
> > > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > > Junping
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> > >
> > >> Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >>
> > >> And here's calendar file:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >>
> > >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> > from
> > >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > > sync
> > >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> > other.
> > >>
> > >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > >> interested:
> > >>
> > >> [image: image.png]
> > >>
> > >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Wangda
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Manikandan R <ma...@gmail.com>.
>> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or
10am
PDT will be better?

+1 for 10 am PDT

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:31 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
>
> Basically there’re two options:
>
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
>
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
>
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
>
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
> >
> > > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> > instead of
> > > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> > and
> > > it will take effect starting next week.
> >
> > I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> > that’s not the intent.
> > Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> > month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are
> not
> > the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
> >
> > As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> > of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second
> Wednesday
> > of the month”.
> >
> > But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity.
> :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > —Matt
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline
> and
> > got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups
> and
> > talked to organizers.
> >
> > Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> > joined):
> > - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> > - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> > - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> >
> > Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> > - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> > - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> > - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> >
> > Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> > times).
> > - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> > - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> >
> > *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule:
> *
> > 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> > who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> > 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> > developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> > resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> > 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> > most of the west-cost folks.
> >
> > *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead
> of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
> >
> > Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> > community contributions grow in the last one month!
> >
> > Any thoughts about the proposal?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wangda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > > welcome to join:
> > >
> > >
> > > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> > >
> > > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > > Junping
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> > >
> > >> Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >>
> > >> And here's calendar file:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >>
> > >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> > from
> > >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > > sync
> > >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> > other.
> > >>
> > >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > >> interested:
> > >>
> > >> [image: image.png]
> > >>
> > >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Wangda
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Let's go with bi-weekly (every 2 weeks). Sometimes this gives us 3 sync-ups in one month, which I think is fine.
-Eric Payne

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 5:01:52 AM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
> PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.
> 
> Basically there’re two options:
> 
> - a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
> - b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.
> 
> I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
> mentioned.
> 
> After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
> audience and not disrupted because of calendar.
> 
> If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wangda


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.

Basically there’re two options:

- a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
- b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.

I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
mentioned.

After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
audience and not disrupted because of calendar.

If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wangda



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
>
> > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> instead of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
>
> I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> that’s not the intent.
> Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not
> the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
>
> As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday
> of the month”.
>
> But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> —Matt
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >>
> >> And here's calendar file:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >>
> >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> >>
> >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> >> interested:
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wangda
> >>
> >
>
> --
Sent from Gmail Mobile

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.

Basically there’re two options:

- a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
- b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.

I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
mentioned.

After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
audience and not disrupted because of calendar.

If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wangda



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
>
> > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> instead of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
>
> I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> that’s not the intent.
> Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not
> the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
>
> As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday
> of the month”.
>
> But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> —Matt
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >>
> >> And here's calendar file:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >>
> >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> >>
> >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> >> interested:
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wangda
> >>
> >
>
> --
Sent from Gmail Mobile

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.

Basically there’re two options:

- a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
- b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.

I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
mentioned.

After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
audience and not disrupted because of calendar.

If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wangda



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
>
> > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> instead of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
>
> I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> that’s not the intent.
> Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not
> the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
>
> As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday
> of the month”.
>
> But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> —Matt
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >>
> >> And here's calendar file:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >>
> >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> >>
> >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> >> interested:
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wangda
> >>
> >
>
> --
Sent from Gmail Mobile

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.

Basically there’re two options:

- a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
- b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.

I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
mentioned.

After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
audience and not disrupted because of calendar.

If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wangda



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
>
> > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> instead of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
>
> I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> that’s not the intent.
> Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not
> the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
>
> As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday
> of the month”.
>
> But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> —Matt
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >>
> >> And here's calendar file:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >>
> >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> >>
> >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> >> interested:
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wangda
> >>
> >
>
> --
Sent from Gmail Mobile

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.

Basically there’re two options:

- a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
- b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.

I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
mentioned.

After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
audience and not disrupted because of calendar.

If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wangda



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
>
> > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> instead of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
>
> I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> that’s not the intent.
> Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not
> the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
>
> As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday
> of the month”.
>
> But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> —Matt
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >>
> >> And here's calendar file:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >>
> >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> >>
> >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> >> interested:
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wangda
> >>
> >
>
> --
Sent from Gmail Mobile

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com>.
For folks in other US time zones: how about 11am PDT, is it better or 10am
PDT will be better? I will be fine with both.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for mentioning this issue, this is the exactly issue I saw 🤣.

Basically there’re two options:

- a. weekly, bi-weekly (for odd/even week) and every four months.
- b. weekly, 1st/3rd week or 2nd/4th week, x-th week monthly.

I’m not sure which one is easier for people to understand as the issue you
mentioned.

After thinking about it. I prefer a. since it is more consistent for
audience and not disrupted because of calendar.

If we choose a. I will redo the proposal and make it aligns with a.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Wangda



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:11 AM Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:
>
> > > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly
> instead of
> > 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu
> and
> > it will take effect starting next week.
>
> I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and
> that’s not the intent.
> Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each
> month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not
> the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...
>
> As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday
> of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday
> of the month”.
>
> But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)
>
> Thanks,
> —Matt
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> >>
> >> And here's calendar file:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> >>
> >> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> >> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> >> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> >>
> >> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> >> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> >> interested:
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wangda
> >>
> >
>
> --
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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:

> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.

I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and that’s not the intent.
Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...

As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday of the month”.  

But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)

Thanks,
—Matt


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
>     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
> 
> 
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> 
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> 
> Summary:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Junping
> 
> 
> 
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
>> 
>> And here's calendar file:
>> 
>> 
>> 
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
>> 
>> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
>> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
>> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
>> 
>> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
>> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
>> interested:
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wangda
>> 
> 


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:

> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.

I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and that’s not the intent.
Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...

As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday of the month”.  

But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)

Thanks,
—Matt


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
>     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
> 
> 
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> 
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> 
> Summary:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Junping
> 
> 
> 
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
>> 
>> And here's calendar file:
>> 
>> 
>> 
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
>> 
>> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
>> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
>> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
>> 
>> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
>> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
>> interested:
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wangda
>> 
> 


Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda,
Thank you for continuing to keep us moving forward and refining these vital sync-ups.

> 3) Update the US [YARN/MapReduce] sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT.

That puts it at noon central time, which is during our lunch hour. However, I am +1 for this if we are able to allow greater participation from folks on the U.S. west coast.


-Eric Payne


On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:32:20 PM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi folks, 
> 
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and talked to organizers.
> 
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks joined): 
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin). 
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> 
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined). 
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English). 
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: 
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC who speak English can choose to join the US session. 
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can resume the sync if we do see demands from English-
> speaking areas. 
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for most of the west-cost folks.  
> 
> Following are fixes for the schedule:  
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and it will take effect starting next week. 
> 
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see community contributions grow in the last one month! 
> 
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wangda

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda,
Thank you for continuing to keep us moving forward and refining these vital sync-ups.

> 3) Update the US [YARN/MapReduce] sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT.

That puts it at noon central time, which is during our lunch hour. However, I am +1 for this if we are able to allow greater participation from folks on the U.S. west coast.


-Eric Payne


On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:32:20 PM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi folks, 
> 
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and talked to organizers.
> 
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks joined): 
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin). 
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> 
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined). 
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English). 
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: 
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC who speak English can choose to join the US session. 
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can resume the sync if we do see demands from English-
> speaking areas. 
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for most of the west-cost folks.  
> 
> Following are fixes for the schedule:  
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and it will take effect starting next week. 
> 
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see community contributions grow in the last one month! 
> 
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wangda

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:

> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.

I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and that’s not the intent.
Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...

As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday of the month”.  

But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)

Thanks,
—Matt


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
>     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
> 
> 
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> 
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> 
> Summary:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Junping
> 
> 
> 
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
>> 
>> And here's calendar file:
>> 
>> 
>> 
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
>> 
>> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
>> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
>> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
>> 
>> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
>> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
>> interested:
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wangda
>> 
> 


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda,
Thank you for continuing to keep us moving forward and refining these vital sync-ups.

> 3) Update the US [YARN/MapReduce] sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT.

That puts it at noon central time, which is during our lunch hour. However, I am +1 for this if we are able to allow greater participation from folks on the U.S. west coast.


-Eric Payne


On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:32:20 PM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi folks, 
> 
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and talked to organizers.
> 
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks joined): 
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin). 
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> 
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined). 
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English). 
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: 
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC who speak English can choose to join the US session. 
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can resume the sync if we do see demands from English-
> speaking areas. 
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for most of the west-cost folks.  
> 
> Following are fixes for the schedule:  
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and it will take effect starting next week. 
> 
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see community contributions grow in the last one month! 
> 
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wangda

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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.
+1

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >
> > > And here's calendar file:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >
> > > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> > > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> > > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> > >
> > > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > [image: image.png]
> > >
> > > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wangda
> > >
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.
+1

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >
> > > And here's calendar file:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >
> > > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> > > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> > > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> > >
> > > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > [image: image.png]
> > >
> > > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wangda
> > >
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:

> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.

I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and that’s not the intent.
Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...

As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday of the month”.  

But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)

Thanks,
—Matt


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
>     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
> 
> 
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> 
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> 
> Summary:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Junping
> 
> 
> 
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
>> 
>> And here's calendar file:
>> 
>> 
>> 
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
>> 
>> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
>> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
>> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
>> 
>> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
>> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
>> interested:
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wangda
>> 
> 


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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda,
Thank you for continuing to keep us moving forward and refining these vital sync-ups.

> 3) Update the US [YARN/MapReduce] sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT.

That puts it at noon central time, which is during our lunch hour. However, I am +1 for this if we are able to allow greater participation from folks on the U.S. west coast.


-Eric Payne


On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:32:20 PM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi folks, 
> 
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and talked to organizers.
> 
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks joined): 
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin). 
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> 
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined). 
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English). 
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: 
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC who speak English can choose to join the US session. 
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can resume the sync if we do see demands from English-
> speaking areas. 
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for most of the west-cost folks.  
> 
> Following are fixes for the schedule:  
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and it will take effect starting next week. 
> 
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see community contributions grow in the last one month! 
> 
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wangda

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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:

> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.

I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and that’s not the intent.
Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...

As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday of the month”.  

But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)

Thanks,
—Matt


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
>     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
> 
> 
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> 
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> 
> Summary:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Junping
> 
> 
> 
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
>> 
>> And here's calendar file:
>> 
>> 
>> 
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
>> 
>> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
>> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
>> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
>> 
>> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
>> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
>> interested:
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wangda
>> 
> 


Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda,
Thank you for continuing to keep us moving forward and refining these vital sync-ups.

> 3) Update the US [YARN/MapReduce] sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT.

That puts it at noon central time, which is during our lunch hour. However, I am +1 for this if we are able to allow greater participation from folks on the U.S. west coast.


-Eric Payne


On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:32:20 PM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi folks, 
> 
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and talked to organizers.
> 
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks joined): 
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin). 
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> 
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined). 
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English). 
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: 
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC who speak English can choose to join the US session. 
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can resume the sync if we do see demands from English-
> speaking areas. 
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for most of the west-cost folks.  
> 
> Following are fixes for the schedule:  
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and it will take effect starting next week. 
> 
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see community contributions grow in the last one month! 
> 
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wangda

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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.
+1

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >
> > > And here's calendar file:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >
> > > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> > > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> > > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> > >
> > > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > [image: image.png]
> > >
> > > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wangda
> > >
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.
+1

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >
> > > And here's calendar file:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >
> > > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> > > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> > > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> > >
> > > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > [image: image.png]
> > >
> > > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wangda
> > >
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by "epayne@apache.org" <ep...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda,
Thank you for continuing to keep us moving forward and refining these vital sync-ups.

> 3) Update the US [YARN/MapReduce] sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT.

That puts it at noon central time, which is during our lunch hour. However, I am +1 for this if we are able to allow greater participation from folks on the U.S. west coast.


-Eric Payne


On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:32:20 PM CDT, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi folks, 
> 
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and talked to organizers.
> 
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks joined): 
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin). 
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> 
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined). 
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English). 
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
> 
> So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: 
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC who speak English can choose to join the US session. 
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can resume the sync if we do see demands from English-
> speaking areas. 
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for most of the west-cost folks.  
> 
> Following are fixes for the schedule:  
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and it will take effect starting next week. 
> 
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see community contributions grow in the last one month! 
> 
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wangda

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Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.
+1

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
> got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
> talked to organizers.
>
> Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
> joined):
> - YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
> - HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
> - Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
>
> Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
> - Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
> - Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
> - YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
> times).
> - YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
> - Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).
>
> *So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
> 1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
> who speak English can choose to join the US session.
> 2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
> developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
> resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
> 3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
> most of the west-cost folks.
>
> *Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
> 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.
>
> Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
> community contributions grow in the last one month!
>
> Any thoughts about the proposal?
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> >      Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> > welcome to join:
> >
> >
> > Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> >
> > Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Junping
> >
> >
> >
> > Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
> > >
> > > And here's calendar file:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
> > >
> > > We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks
> from
> > > participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> > sync
> > > up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each
> other.
> > >
> > > Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
> > > timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > [image: image.png]
> > >
> > > Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wangda
> > >
> >
>

Re: Hadoop Community Sync Up Schedule

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Wangda, thanks for this. A question about the schedule correction:

> > 1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
> 2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
> it will take effect starting next week.

I understand that “bi-weekly” may cause 3 meetings in some months, and that’s not the intent.
Is it your intent to schedule “Wednesday of the 2nd and 4th weeks of each month” or “2nd and 4th Wednesday of each month”? — which of course are not the same, for months that start on Thu-Sat...

As a side note, I find that my calendar program cannot express “Wednesday of the second week of the month”, but does know how to do “second Wednesday of the month”.  

But I’ll schedule them one-by-one if I have to, I just wanted clarity. :-)

Thanks,
—Matt


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

We have run community sync up for 1.5 months. I spoke to folks offline and
got some feedback. Here's a summary of what I've observed from sync ups and
talked to organizers.

Following sync ups have very good participants (sometimes 10+ folks
joined):
- YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin)
- HDFS monthly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).
- Submarine weekly sync up in APAC (Mandarin).

Following sync up have OK-ish participants: (3-5 folks joined).
- Storage monthly sync up in APAC (English)
- Storage bi-weekly sync up in US (English)
- YARN bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

Following sync ups don't have good participants: (Skipped a couple of
times).
- YARN monthly sync up in APAC (English).
- Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English).

*So I'd like to propose the following changes and fixes of the schedule: *
1) Cancel the YARN/MR monthly sync up in APAC (English). Folks from APAC
who speak English can choose to join the US session.
2) Cancel the Submarine bi-weekly sync up in US (English). Now Submarine
developers and users are fast-growing in Mandarin-speaking areas. We can
resume the sync if we do see demands from English-speaking areas.
3) Update the US sync up time from 9AM to 10AM PDT. 9AM is too early for
most of the west-cost folks.

*Following are fixes for the schedule:  *
1) In the proposal, repeats are not properly. (I used bi-weekly instead of
2nd/4th week as repeat frequency). I'd like to fix the frequency on Thu and
it will take effect starting next week.

Overall, thanks for everybody who participated in the sync ups. I do see
community contributions grow in the last one month!

Any thoughts about the proposal?

Thanks,
Wangda




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:53 AM 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
>     Kindly remind that we have YARN+MR APAC sync today, and you are
> welcome to join:
> 
> 
> Time and Date:07/25 1:00 pm (CST Time)
> 
> Zoom link:Zoom | https://cloudera.zoom.us/j/880548968
> 
> Summary:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GY55sXrekVd-aDyRY7uzaX0hMDPyh3T-AL1kUY2TI5M
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Junping
> 
> 
> 
> Wangda Tan <wh...@gmail.com> 于2019年6月28日周五 上午2:57写道:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Here's the Hadoop Community Sync Up proposal/schedule:
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfNpYKhNUERAEH7m3yx6OfleoF3MqoQk3nJ7xqHD9nY/edit#heading=h.xh4zfwj8ppmn
>> 
>> And here's calendar file:
>> 
>> 
>> 
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/hadoop.community.sync.up%40gmail.com/public/basic.ics
>> 
>> We gave it a try this week for YARN+MR and Submarine sync, feedbacks from
>> participants seems pretty good, lots of new information shared during
> sync
>> up, and companies are using/developing Hadoop can better know each other.
>> 
>> Next week there're 4 community sync-ups (Two Submarine for different
>> timezones, one YARN+MR, one storage), please join to whichever you're
>> interested:
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Zoom info and notes can be found in the Google calendar invitation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wangda
>> 
> 


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