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Posted to dev@milagro.apache.org by Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> on 2018/03/29 07:31:41 UTC

Platform dependency

Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it should work with react, too.

If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.  However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and I hope this would answer your question.

The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal, and many other applications.

Regards,
Go Yamamoto

-----Original Message-----
From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro

Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.


2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
>
> "We" means NTT in this context.
>
> I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at 
> the official repository.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
>
> The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository 
> resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
>
> For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
>
>
> On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
>
> Who is "we" in this case?
> http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> > Hi Go,
> >
> > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill 
> > in
> the
> monthly reports which are required for the project.
> >
> > Nikolai
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi 
> > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok,
> > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan 
> > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > >
> > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > >
> > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors 
> > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is 
> > > > the master of the project.
> > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > advancements
> > > > at the local repo.
> > > >
> > > > We can start right now.
> > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > >
> > > > Go
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > >
> > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting 
> > > > some
> > > code
> > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > >
> > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start 
> > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> years.
> > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > >
> > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > participate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible 
> > > > > to present a roadmap.
> > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some 
> > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able 
> > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really 
> > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate 
> > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project 
> > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for 
> > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> > > > been clear.
> > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have 
> > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a 
> > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the 
> > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess 
> > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can 
> > > > > > propose a
> roadmap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with 
> > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project 
> > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto" 
> > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> roadmap.
> > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto 
> > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients 
> > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have 
> > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before 
> > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not 
> > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes 
> > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help 
> > > > > > further development activities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible 
> > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if 
> > > > > > they are
> > > > merged.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware 
> > > > > > as
> well?
> > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library 
> > > > > > inside
> Apache?
> > > > The
> > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used 
> > > > > > from
> > > other
> > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to 
> > > > > > make sure
> > > Go
> > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm 
> > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem 
> > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide 
> > > > > > our
> > > > > perspective
> > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to 
> > > > > > move the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to 
> > > > > > the
> crypto
> > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so 
> > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the 
> > > > > > original
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> repository
> > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past, 
> > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to 
> > > > > > the
> > > Milagro
> > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in 
> > > > > > the project
> > > > > for
> > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go 
> > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help 
> > > > > > on getting
> > > > > the
> > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> head.
> > > > The
> > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> MIRACL.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > can
> > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to 
> > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the implications
> I
> am
> > > > > > seeing
> > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within 
> > > > > > the
> > > > podling.
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> library.
> > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would 
> > > > > > like to ask
> > > > > for
> > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> ready
> > > to
> > > > > > commit.
> > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > repository
> > > > > is
> > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code from
> > > MIRACL
> > > > > is
> > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > continuously,
> > > > > it
> > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project 
> > > > > > for
> years.
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> over
> > > > the
> > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> problem.
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org
> ]
> > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> about
> > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to 
> > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This has
> > > > included
> > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> move
> of
> > > > > > source
> > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have 
> > > > > > been
> > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly nothing.
> > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > repositories
> > > > > > have
> > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> should
> > > > > > retire.
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> > > %3E
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > >     >>
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Nikolai Stoilov
> > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > MIRACL
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Go,
i was reading your LinuxCon Milagro Slides (interesting).  React native
target java code in Android.. So i am going to explore how to integrate
with your java at client side.
I think the project is interesting to me expecially the server side.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.


2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
> should work with react, too.
>
> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and
> I hope this would answer your question.
>
> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal,
> and many other applications.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>
>
> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >
> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >
> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
> > the official repository.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >
> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >
> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >
> > Who is "we" in this case?
> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > Hi Go,
> > >
> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
> > > in
> > the
> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > >
> > > Nikolai
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
> > > > > the master of the project.
> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > advancements
> > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
> > > > > some
> > > > code
> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> > years.
> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > participate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
> > > > > > > propose a
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
> > > > > > > further development activities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> > > > > > > as
> > well?
> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> > > > > > > inside
> > Apache?
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
> > > > > > > from
> > > > other
> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> > > > > > > make sure
> > > > Go
> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> > > > > > > move the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> > > > > > > the
> > crypto
> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
> > > > > > > the project
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
> > > > > > > on getting
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> > head.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> implications
> > I
> > am
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > podling.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > library.
> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
> > > > > > > like to ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > ready
> > > > to
> > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > repository
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> from
> > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > continuously,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> > > > > > > for
> > years.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > problem.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> johndament@apache.org
> > ]
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > about
> > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> has
> > > > > included
> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > move
> > of
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> nothing.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > repositories
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> > should
> > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> > > > %3E
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > MIRACL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simeon,
thanks for the hint. I will use  the lib.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.

2018-04-03 9:35 GMT+02:00 Simeon Aladjem <si...@miracl.com>:

> Hi Giorgio,
>
> If you need to integrate with the JS client SDK (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib),
> it includes pretty detailed documentation is the README.md, plus some
> diagrams how the flow works:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/
> blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Registration%20flow.png
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/
> blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Authentication%20flow.png
>
> I have to admit that I couldn't quite understand which part of the
> published code you use for your project, but I hope the above helps.
>
> Regards,
> Simeon Aladjem
>
> On 2/4/18, 18:11, "Giorgio Zoppi" <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hello Nikolai,
>     after the talk 12th April i can share.
>     https://www.meetup.com/Barcelona-UI-UX-Developers/events/248615501/.
> This
>     is the time at i will release the stuff. The login is quite easy (it
> does a
>     simple post), but i have still no clear picture on how integrate your
> sdk
>     in react native.
>     Which is the current  repository about android sdk and related docs?
>
>     Best Regards,
>     Giorgio.
>
>
>     2018-04-01 15:19 GMT+02:00 Nikolai Stoilov <nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com
> >:
>
>     > Hi Giorgio,
>     >
>     > Can you share your React Native implementation?
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Nikolai
>     >
>     > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <
> giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > > Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is
>     > really
>     > > impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
>     > > Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
>     > >
>     > > 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>     > >
>     > >> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks,
> and it
>     > >> should work with react, too.
>     > >>
>     > >> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer
> is no.
>     > >> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication
> module
>     > and
>     > >> I hope this would answer your question.
>     > >>
>     > >> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper
> that
>     > >> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.
> As we
>     > >> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django,
> WordPress,
>     > Drupal,
>     > >> and many other applications.
>     > >>
>     > >> Regards,
>     > >> Go Yamamoto
>     > >>
>     > >> -----Original Message-----
>     > >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>     > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
>     > >> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >>
>     > >> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
>     > >>
>     > >> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > "We" means NTT in this context.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing
> code at
>     > >> > the official repository.
>     > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
>     > >> >
>     > >> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official
> repository
>     > >> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install
> it.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > Regards,
>     > >> > Go Yamamoto
>     > >> >
>     > >> > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
>     > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
>     > >> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>     > >> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <
> yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     > >> wrote:
>     > >> > > Hi
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
>     > >> > > We would like to request the official repository to release
> our
>     > code.
>     > >> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > Who is "we" in this case?
>     > >> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Regards,
>     > >> > > Go Yamamoto
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
>     > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
>     > >> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Hi Go,
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how
> to fill
>     > >> > > in
>     > >> > the
>     > >> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Nikolai
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
>     > >> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
>     > >> > > wrote:
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > > Ok,
>     > >> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a
> plan
>     > >> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
>     > >> > > >
>     > >> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
> yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
>     > >:
>     > >> > > >
>     > >> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library
> first.
>     > >> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that
> mirrors
>     > >> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that
> it is
>     > >> > > > > the master of the project.
>     > >> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute
> the
>     > >> > > > advancements
>     > >> > > > > at the local repo.
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > We can start right now.
>     > >> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > Go
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>     > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
>     > >> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code.
> Porting
>     > >> > > > > some
>     > >> > > > code
>     > >> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
>     > yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
>     > >> >:
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > All,
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to
> start
>     > >> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have
> worked for
>     > >> > years.
>     > >> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are
> willing to
>     > >> > > > participate.
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > Go Yamamto
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
>     > >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
>     > >> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
>     > >> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
>     > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
>     > >> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is
> responsible
>     > >> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
>     > >> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > Go
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>     > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
>     > >> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign
> some
>     > >> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > <si...@miracl.com>:
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Hello,
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not
> being able
>     > >> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been
> really
>     > >> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural
> stand
>     > point.
>     > >> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to
> manipulate
>     > >> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
>     > >> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in
> order for
>     > >> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
>     > >> > > > > been clear.
>     > >> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL
> didn't have
>     > >> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is -
> in a
>     > >> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a
> roadmap?
>     > >> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
>     > >> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and
> I guess
>     > >> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project,
> they can
>     > >> > > > > > > propose a
>     > >> > roadmap.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto,
> with
>     > >> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the
> project
>     > >> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
>     > >> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     > >> > wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about
> the
>     > >> > roadmap.
>     > >> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the
> crypto
>     > >> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication
> server/clients
>     > >> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and
> we have
>     > >> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering
>     > activities.
>     > >> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more
> before
>     > >> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code
> does not
>     > >> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
>     > >> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test
> codes
>     > >> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at
> least help
>     > >> > > > > > > further development activities.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
>     > >> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
>     > >> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers
> if
>     > >> > > > > > > they are
>     > >> > > > > merged.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.
> com]
>     > >> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
>     > >> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     BTW,
>     > >> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support
> hardware
>     > >> > > > > > > as
>     > >> > well?
>     > >> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
>     > >> release?
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
>     > >> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
>     > >> > > > > >:
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
>     > >> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
>     > >> > > > > > > inside
>     > >> > Apache?
>     > >> > > > > The
>     > >> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable
> code.
>     > >> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can
> be used
>     > >> > > > > > > from
>     > >> > > > other
>     > >> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
>     > >> > > > johndament@apache.org
>     > >> > > > > >:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would
> need to
>     > >> > > > > > > make sure
>     > >> > > > Go
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the
> repositories.  I'm
>     > >> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> John
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
>     > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to
> provide
>     > >> > > > > > > our
>     > >> > > > > > perspective
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> the project.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea
> to
>     > >> > > > > > > move the
>     > >> > > > > Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project
> refers to
>     > >> > > > > > > the
>     > >> > crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > repository
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
>     > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
>     > >> > > > > > doesn't
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of
> the
>     > >> > > > > > > original
>     > >> > > > > Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
>     > >> project,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need
> some
>     > >> > repository
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the
> past,
>     > >> > > > > > > to the best of my
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> memory.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and
> contribute to
>     > >> > > > > > > the
>     > >> > > > Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading
> role in
>     > >> > > > > > > the project
>     > >> > > > > > for
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT
> and Go
>     > >> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and
> will help
>     > >> > > > > > > on getting
>     > >> > > > > > the
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it
>     > forward.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
>     > >> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
>     > >> > > > > > wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem
> right on
>     > the
>     > >> > head.
>     > >> > > > > The
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation
> from
>     > >> > MIRACL.
>     > >> > > > > > > You
>     > >> > > > > > can
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no
> changes to
>     > >> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
>     > >> implications
>     > >> > I
>     > >> > am
>     > >> > > > > > > seeing
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > are
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code
> within
>     > >> > > > > > > the
>     > >> > > > > podling.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     John
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a
> crypto
>     > >> > library.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I
> would
>     > >> > > > > > > like to ask
>     > >> > > > > > for
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting
> Milagro.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code
> that
>     > is
>     > >> > ready
>     > >> > > > to
>     > >> > > > > > > commit.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated
> since
>     > then.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to
> Apache
>     > >> > > > repository
>     > >> > > > > > is
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because
> the code
>     > >> from
>     > >> > > > MIRACL
>     > >> > > > > > is
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been
> updated
>     > >> > > > continuously,
>     > >> > > > > > it
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > seems
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the
> project
>     > >> > > > > > > for
>     > >> > years.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT
> team can
>     > >> take
>     > >> > over
>     > >> > > > > the
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve
> the
>     > >> > problem.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
>     > >> johndament@apache.org
>     > >> > ]
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the
>     > project
>     > >> > about
>     > >> > > > > > > retirement.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped
> up to
>     > >> > > > > > > help out the project.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting
> periods.  This
>     > >> has
>     > >> > > > > included
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report
> clarifying
>     > the
>     > >> > move
>     > >> > of
>     > >> > > > > > > source
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github
> have
>     > >> > > > > > > been
>     > >> > > > > > unanswered.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to
> nearly
>     > >> nothing.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of
> your
>     > >> > > > repositories
>     > >> > > > > > > have
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
>     > Milagro
>     > >> > should
>     > >> > > > > > > retire.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
>     > >> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%
> 3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
>     > >> > > > %3E
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > >
>     > >> > > --
>     > >> > > Nikolai Stoilov
>     > >> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
>     > >> > > MIRACL
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> --
>     > Nikolai Stoilov
>     > NOC/Support Team Lead
>     > MIRACL
>     >
>
>

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Simeon Aladjem <si...@miracl.com>.
Hi Giorgio,

If you need to integrate with the JS client SDK (https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib),
it includes pretty detailed documentation is the README.md, plus some diagrams how the flow works:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Registration%20flow.png
https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Authentication%20flow.png

I have to admit that I couldn't quite understand which part of the published code you use for your project, but I hope the above helps.

Regards,
Simeon Aladjem

On 2/4/18, 18:11, "Giorgio Zoppi" <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hello Nikolai,
    after the talk 12th April i can share.
    https://www.meetup.com/Barcelona-UI-UX-Developers/events/248615501/. This
    is the time at i will release the stuff. The login is quite easy (it does a
    simple post), but i have still no clear picture on how integrate your sdk
    in react native.
    Which is the current  repository about android sdk and related docs?
    
    Best Regards,
    Giorgio.
    
    
    2018-04-01 15:19 GMT+02:00 Nikolai Stoilov <ni...@miracl.com>:
    
    > Hi Giorgio,
    >
    > Can you share your React Native implementation?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Nikolai
    >
    > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is
    > really
    > > impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
    > > Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
    > >
    > > 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
    > >
    > >> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
    > >> should work with react, too.
    > >>
    > >> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
    > >> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module
    > and
    > >> I hope this would answer your question.
    > >>
    > >> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
    > >> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
    > >> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress,
    > Drupal,
    > >> and many other applications.
    > >>
    > >> Regards,
    > >> Go Yamamoto
    > >>
    > >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
    > >> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >>
    > >> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
    > >>
    > >> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
    > >> >
    > >> > "We" means NTT in this context.
    > >> >
    > >> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
    > >> > the official repository.
    > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
    > >> >
    > >> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
    > >> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
    > >> >
    > >> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
    > >> >
    > >> > Regards,
    > >> > Go Yamamoto
    > >> >
    > >> > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
    > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
    > >> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
    > >> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
    > >> wrote:
    > >> > > Hi
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
    > >> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our
    > code.
    > >> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
    > >> >
    > >> > Who is "we" in this case?
    > >> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
    > >> >
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Regards,
    > >> > > Go Yamamoto
    > >> > >
    > >> > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
    > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
    > >> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Hi Go,
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
    > >> > > in
    > >> > the
    > >> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Nikolai
    > >> > >
    > >> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
    > >> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
    > >> > > wrote:
    > >> > >
    > >> > > > Ok,
    > >> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
    > >> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
    > >:
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
    > >> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
    > >> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
    > >> > > > > the master of the project.
    > >> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
    > >> > > > advancements
    > >> > > > > at the local repo.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > We can start right now.
    > >> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > Go
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
    > >> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
    > >> > > > > some
    > >> > > > code
    > >> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
    > yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
    > >> >:
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > > All,
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
    > >> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
    > >> > years.
    > >> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
    > >> > > > participate.
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > Regards,
    > >> > > > > > Go Yamamto
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
    > >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
    > >> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
    > >> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
    > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
    > >> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
    > >> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
    > >> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > Go
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
    > >> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
    > >> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > <si...@miracl.com>:
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Hello,
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
    > >> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
    > >> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand
    > point.
    > >> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
    > >> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
    > >> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
    > >> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
    > >> > > > > been clear.
    > >> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
    > >> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
    > >> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
    > >> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
    > >> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
    > >> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
    > >> > > > > > > propose a
    > >> > roadmap.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
    > >> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
    > >> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
    > >> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
    > >> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
    > >> > wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
    > >> > roadmap.
    > >> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
    > >> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
    > >> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
    > >> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering
    > activities.
    > >> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
    > >> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
    > >> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
    > >> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
    > >> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
    > >> > > > > > > further development activities.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
    > >> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
    > >> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
    > >> > > > > > > they are
    > >> > > > > merged.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     Regards,
    > >> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
    > >> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     BTW,
    > >> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
    > >> > > > > > > as
    > >> > well?
    > >> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
    > >> release?
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
    > >> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
    > >> > > > > >:
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
    > >> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
    > >> > > > > > > inside
    > >> > Apache?
    > >> > > > > The
    > >> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
    > >> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
    > >> > > > > > > from
    > >> > > > other
    > >> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
    > >> > > > johndament@apache.org
    > >> > > > > >:
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
    > >> > > > > > > make sure
    > >> > > > Go
    > >> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
    > >> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> John
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
    > >> > > > > > > wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
    > >> > > > > > > our
    > >> > > > > > perspective
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
    > >> > > > > > >     >> the project.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
    > >> > > > > > > move the
    > >> > > > > Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
    > >> > > > > > > the
    > >> > crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > repository
    > >> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
    > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
    > >> > > > > > doesn't
    > >> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
    > >> > > > > > > original
    > >> > > > > Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
    > >> project,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
    > >> > repository
    > >> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
    > >> > > > > > > to the best of my
    > >> > > > > > >     >> memory.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
    > >> > > > > > > the
    > >> > > > Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
    > >> > > > > > > the project
    > >> > > > > > for
    > >> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
    > >> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
    > >> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
    > >> > > > > > > on getting
    > >> > > > > > the
    > >> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it
    > forward.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
    > >> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
    > >> > > > > > wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
    > the
    > >> > head.
    > >> > > > > The
    > >> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
    > >> > MIRACL.
    > >> > > > > > > You
    > >> > > > > > can
    > >> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
    > >> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
    > >> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
    > >> implications
    > >> > I
    > >> > am
    > >> > > > > > > seeing
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > are
    > >> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
    > >> > > > > > > the
    > >> > > > > podling.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     John
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
    > >> > library.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
    > >> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
    > >> > > > > > > like to ask
    > >> > > > > > for
    > >> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that
    > is
    > >> > ready
    > >> > > > to
    > >> > > > > > > commit.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since
    > then.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
    > >> > > > repository
    > >> > > > > > is
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
    > >> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
    > >> from
    > >> > > > MIRACL
    > >> > > > > > is
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
    > >> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
    > >> > > > continuously,
    > >> > > > > > it
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > seems
    > >> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
    > >> > > > > > > for
    > >> > years.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
    > >> take
    > >> > over
    > >> > > > > the
    > >> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
    > >> > problem.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
    > >> johndament@apache.org
    > >> > ]
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the
    > project
    > >> > about
    > >> > > > > > > retirement.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
    > >> > > > > > > help out the project.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
    > >> has
    > >> > > > > included
    > >> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying
    > the
    > >> > move
    > >> > of
    > >> > > > > > > source
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
    > >> > > > > > > been
    > >> > > > > > unanswered.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
    > >> nothing.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
    > >> > > > repositories
    > >> > > > > > > have
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
    > >> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
    > Milagro
    > >> > should
    > >> > > > > > > retire.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
    > >> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
    > >> > > > %3E
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > --
    > >> > > Nikolai Stoilov
    > >> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
    > >> > > MIRACL
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > Nikolai Stoilov
    > NOC/Support Team Lead
    > MIRACL
    >
    

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nikolai,
after the talk 12th April i can share.
https://www.meetup.com/Barcelona-UI-UX-Developers/events/248615501/. This
is the time at i will release the stuff. The login is quite easy (it does a
simple post), but i have still no clear picture on how integrate your sdk
in react native.
Which is the current  repository about android sdk and related docs?

Best Regards,
Giorgio.


2018-04-01 15:19 GMT+02:00 Nikolai Stoilov <ni...@miracl.com>:

> Hi Giorgio,
>
> Can you share your React Native implementation?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nikolai
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is
> really
> > impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
> > Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
> >
> > 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >
> >> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
> >> should work with react, too.
> >>
> >> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> >> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module
> and
> >> I hope this would answer your question.
> >>
> >> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> >> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
> >> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress,
> Drupal,
> >> and many other applications.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Go Yamamoto
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> >> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >>
> >> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >>
> >> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >> >
> >> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >> >
> >> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
> >> > the official repository.
> >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >> >
> >> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
> >> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >> >
> >> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Go Yamamoto
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> >> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Hi
> >> > >
> >> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> >> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our
> code.
> >> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >> >
> >> > Who is "we" in this case?
> >> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Go Yamamoto
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> >> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Go,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
> >> > > in
> >> > the
> >> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> >> > >
> >> > > Nikolai
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> >> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Ok,
> >> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> >> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> >> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> >> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
> >> > > > > the master of the project.
> >> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> >> > > > advancements
> >> > > > > at the local repo.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > We can start right now.
> >> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Go
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> >> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
> >> > > > > some
> >> > > > code
> >> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
> yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >> >:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > All,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
> >> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> >> > years.
> >> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> >> > > > participate.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> >> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> >> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> >> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
> >> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
> >> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Go
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> >> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> >> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> >> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hello,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
> >> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> >> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand
> point.
> >> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
> >> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
> >> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
> >> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> >> > > > > been clear.
> >> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
> >> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
> >> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> >> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> >> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
> >> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
> >> > > > > > > propose a
> >> > roadmap.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> >> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> >> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> >> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> >> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> >> > roadmap.
> >> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> >> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> >> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
> >> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering
> activities.
> >> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> >> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
> >> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> >> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
> >> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
> >> > > > > > > further development activities.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> >> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> >> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> >> > > > > > > they are
> >> > > > > merged.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     Regards,
> >> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> >> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     BTW,
> >> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> >> > > > > > > as
> >> > well?
> >> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
> >> release?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> >> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> >> > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> >> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> >> > > > > > > inside
> >> > Apache?
> >> > > > > The
> >> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> >> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
> >> > > > > > > from
> >> > > > other
> >> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> >> > > > johndament@apache.org
> >> > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> >> > > > > > > make sure
> >> > > > Go
> >> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> >> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >> John
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> >> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
> >> > > > > > > our
> >> > > > > > perspective
> >> > > > > > >     >> > on
> >> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> >> > > > > > > move the
> >> > > > > Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> >> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> >> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> >> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> >> > > > > > doesn't
> >> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> >> > > > > > > original
> >> > > > > Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
> >> project,
> >> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> >> > repository
> >> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> >> > > > > > > to the best of my
> >> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > > > Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
> >> > > > > > > the project
> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> >> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> >> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> >> > > > > > >     >> > on
> >> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
> >> > > > > > > on getting
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it
> forward.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> >> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
> the
> >> > head.
> >> > > > > The
> >> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> >> > MIRACL.
> >> > > > > > > You
> >> > > > > > can
> >> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> >> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> >> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> >> implications
> >> > I
> >> > am
> >> > > > > > > seeing
> >> > > > > > >     >> > are
> >> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > podling.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> >> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> >> > library.
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> >> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
> >> > > > > > > like to ask
> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that
> is
> >> > ready
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > > commit.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since
> then.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> >> > > > repository
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > >     >> > not
> >> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> >> from
> >> > > > MIRACL
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > >     >> > not
> >> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> >> > > > continuously,
> >> > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> >> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> >> > > > > > > for
> >> > years.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
> >> take
> >> > over
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> >> > problem.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> >> johndament@apache.org
> >> > ]
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the
> project
> >> > about
> >> > > > > > > retirement.
> >> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> >> > > > > > > help out the project.
> >> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> >> has
> >> > > > > included
> >> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying
> the
> >> > move
> >> > of
> >> > > > > > > source
> >> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> >> > > > > > > been
> >> > > > > > unanswered.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> >> nothing.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> >> > > > repositories
> >> > > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > >     >> > not
> >> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
> Milagro
> >> > should
> >> > > > > > > retire.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> >> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> >> > > > %3E
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> >> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> >> > > MIRACL
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> Nikolai Stoilov
> NOC/Support Team Lead
> MIRACL
>

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Nikolai Stoilov <ni...@miracl.com>.
Hi Giorgio,

Can you share your React Native implementation?

Thanks,

Nikolai

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is really
> impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
> Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
>
> 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
>> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
>> should work with react, too.
>>
>> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
>> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and
>> I hope this would answer your question.
>>
>> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
>> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
>> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal,
>> and many other applications.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Go Yamamoto
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
>> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>>
>> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>>
>>
>> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>>
>> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
>> >
>> > "We" means NTT in this context.
>> >
>> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
>> > the official repository.
>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
>> >
>> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
>> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
>> >
>> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Go Yamamoto
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
>> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
>> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
>> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
>> >
>> > Who is "we" in this case?
>> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Go Yamamoto
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
>> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > >
>> > > Hi Go,
>> > >
>> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
>> > > in
>> > the
>> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
>> > >
>> > > Nikolai
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
>> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Ok,
>> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
>> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
>> > > >
>> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
>> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
>> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
>> > > > > the master of the project.
>> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
>> > > > advancements
>> > > > > at the local repo.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We can start right now.
>> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Go
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
>> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
>> > > > > some
>> > > > code
>> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
>> >:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > All,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
>> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
>> > years.
>> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
>> > > > participate.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > Go Yamamto
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
>> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
>> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
>> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
>> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
>> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
>> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Go
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
>> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
>> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
>> > <si...@miracl.com>:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hello,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
>> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
>> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
>> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
>> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
>> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
>> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
>> > > > > been clear.
>> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
>> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
>> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
>> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
>> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
>> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
>> > > > > > > propose a
>> > roadmap.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
>> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
>> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
>> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
>> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
>> > roadmap.
>> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
>> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
>> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
>> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
>> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
>> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
>> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
>> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
>> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
>> > > > > > > further development activities.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
>> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
>> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
>> > > > > > > they are
>> > > > > merged.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     Regards,
>> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
>> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     BTW,
>> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
>> > > > > > > as
>> > well?
>> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
>> release?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
>> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
>> > > > > >:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
>> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
>> > > > > > > inside
>> > Apache?
>> > > > > The
>> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
>> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
>> > > > > > > from
>> > > > other
>> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
>> > > > johndament@apache.org
>> > > > > >:
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
>> > > > > > > make sure
>> > > > Go
>> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
>> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >> John
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
>> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
>> > > > > > > our
>> > > > > > perspective
>> > > > > > >     >> > on
>> > > > > > >     >> the project.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
>> > > > > > > move the
>> > > > > Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
>> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
>> > > > > > > the
>> > crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> > repository
>> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
>> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
>> > > > > > doesn't
>> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
>> > > > > > > original
>> > > > > Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
>> project,
>> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
>> > repository
>> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
>> > > > > > > to the best of my
>> > > > > > >     >> memory.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
>> > > > > > > the project
>> > > > > > for
>> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
>> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
>> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
>> > > > > > >     >> > on
>> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
>> > > > > > > on getting
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
>> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
>> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
>> > head.
>> > > > > The
>> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
>> > MIRACL.
>> > > > > > > You
>> > > > > > can
>> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
>> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
>> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
>> implications
>> > I
>> > am
>> > > > > > > seeing
>> > > > > > >     >> > are
>> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > podling.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     John
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
>> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
>> > library.
>> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
>> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
>> > > > > > > like to ask
>> > > > > > for
>> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
>> > ready
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > commit.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
>> > > > repository
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > >     >> > not
>> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
>> from
>> > > > MIRACL
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > >     >> > not
>> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
>> > > > continuously,
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > >     >> > seems
>> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
>> > > > > > > for
>> > years.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
>> take
>> > over
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
>> > problem.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
>> johndament@apache.org
>> > ]
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
>> > about
>> > > > > > > retirement.
>> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
>> > > > > > > help out the project.
>> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
>> has
>> > > > > included
>> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
>> > move
>> > of
>> > > > > > > source
>> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
>> > > > > > > been
>> > > > > > unanswered.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
>> nothing.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
>> > > > repositories
>> > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > >     >> > not
>> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
>> > should
>> > > > > > > retire.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
>> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
>> > > > %3E
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > --
>> > > Nikolai Stoilov
>> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
>> > > MIRACL
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
Nikolai Stoilov
NOC/Support Team Lead
MIRACL

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is really
impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap

2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
> should work with react, too.
>
> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and
> I hope this would answer your question.
>
> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal,
> and many other applications.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>
>
> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >
> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >
> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
> > the official repository.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >
> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >
> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >
> > Who is "we" in this case?
> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > Hi Go,
> > >
> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
> > > in
> > the
> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > >
> > > Nikolai
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
> > > > > the master of the project.
> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > advancements
> > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
> > > > > some
> > > > code
> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> > years.
> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > participate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
> > > > > > > propose a
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
> > > > > > > further development activities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> > > > > > > as
> > well?
> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> > > > > > > inside
> > Apache?
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
> > > > > > > from
> > > > other
> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> > > > > > > make sure
> > > > Go
> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> > > > > > > move the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> > > > > > > the
> > crypto
> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
> > > > > > > the project
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
> > > > > > > on getting
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> > head.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> implications
> > I
> > am
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > podling.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > library.
> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
> > > > > > > like to ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > ready
> > > > to
> > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > repository
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> from
> > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > continuously,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> > > > > > > for
> > years.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > problem.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> johndament@apache.org
> > ]
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > about
> > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> has
> > > > > included
> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > move
> > of
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> nothing.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > repositories
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> > should
> > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> > > > %3E
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > MIRACL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: Platform dependency

Posted by Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>.
Hi Giorgio,
Milagro MFA just replaces password authentication with MFA, so session tokens remains untouched.  REST would work with native authentication token.
Please share your use case if you have any issue or concern.

Go

-----Original Message-----
From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:48 AM
To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Platform dependency

Hi Go,
i mean in the current infrastructure can i use a REST webservice and that gives to React native an autentication token or something similar.
Giorgio.

2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and 
> it should work with react, too.
>
> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module 
> and I hope this would answer your question.
>
> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that 
> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As 
> we demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, 
> Drupal, and many other applications.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>
>
> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >
> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >
> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code 
> > at the official repository.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >
> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official 
> > repository resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >
> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >
> > Who is "we" in this case?
> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > Hi Go,
> > >
> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to 
> > > fill in
> > the
> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > >
> > > Nikolai
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi 
> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan 
> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors 
> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it 
> > > > > is the master of the project.
> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > advancements
> > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. 
> > > > > Porting some
> > > > code
> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto 
> > > > > <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to 
> > > > > > start the official repository to share the codes we have 
> > > > > > worked for
> > years.
> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > participate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is 
> > > > > > responsible to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some 
> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being 
> > > > > > > able to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really 
> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to 
> > > > > > > manipulate the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the 
> > > > > > > project mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in 
> > > > > > > order for this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't 
> > > > > > > have resources to lead the project, but the question is - 
> > > > > > > in a community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the 
> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I 
> > > > > > > guess if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, 
> > > > > > > they can propose a
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with 
> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project 
> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto 
> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients 
> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we 
> > > > > > > have found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before 
> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does 
> > > > > > > not seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test 
> > > > > > > codes are required for the first release, they will at 
> > > > > > > least help further development activities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible 
> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if 
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware 
> > > > > > > as
> > well?
> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library 
> > > > > > > inside
> > Apache?
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be 
> > > > > > > used from
> > > > other
> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to 
> > > > > > > make sure
> > > > Go
> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm 
> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem 
> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to 
> > > > > > > provide our
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to 
> > > > > > > move the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to 
> > > > > > > the
> > crypto
> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so 
> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the 
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past, 
> > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role 
> > > > > > > in the project
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go 
> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will 
> > > > > > > help on getting
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> > head.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to 
> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> implications
> > I
> > am
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code 
> > > > > > > within the
> > > > > podling.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > library.
> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I 
> > > > > > > would like to ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > ready
> > > > to
> > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > repository
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> from
> > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > continuously,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project 
> > > > > > > for
> > years.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > problem.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> johndament@apache.org
> > ]
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > about
> > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to 
> > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> has
> > > > > included
> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > move
> > of
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have 
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> nothing.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > repositories
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> > should
> > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.or
> > > > > > > g
> > > > %3E
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > MIRACL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Go,
i mean in the current infrastructure can i use a REST webservice and that
gives to React native an autentication token or something similar.
Giorgio.

2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
> should work with react, too.
>
> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and
> I hope this would answer your question.
>
> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal,
> and many other applications.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>
>
> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >
> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >
> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
> > the official repository.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >
> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >
> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >
> > Who is "we" in this case?
> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > Hi Go,
> > >
> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
> > > in
> > the
> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > >
> > > Nikolai
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
> > > > > the master of the project.
> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > advancements
> > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
> > > > > some
> > > > code
> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> > years.
> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > participate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
> > > > > > > propose a
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
> > > > > > > further development activities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> > > > > > > as
> > well?
> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> > > > > > > inside
> > Apache?
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
> > > > > > > from
> > > > other
> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> > > > > > > make sure
> > > > Go
> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> > > > > > > move the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> > > > > > > the
> > crypto
> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
> > > > > > > the project
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
> > > > > > > on getting
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> > head.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> implications
> > I
> > am
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > podling.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > library.
> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
> > > > > > > like to ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > ready
> > > > to
> > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > repository
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> from
> > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > continuously,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> > > > > > > for
> > years.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > problem.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> johndament@apache.org
> > ]
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > about
> > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> has
> > > > > included
> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > move
> > of
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> nothing.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > repositories
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> > should
> > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> > > > %3E
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > MIRACL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: Platform dependency

Posted by Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>.
Hi Giorgio

We (NTT) are ready to take the effort at the minimum level, so we need communication with the PMC team.

We think the first step is to release the crypto library part at the official repository because it is the base.
The idea also should be discussed here.

Assuming we work for the release of crypto library first, I think we can start from 2-3 reviewers and one core editor.
After the first step we will need more reviewers.  
Probably 4-5 in ideal since some may review the frontend and some may the server side.

The reviewers had better be coming from different organizations, but I think it is optional at the beginning.

Regards,
Go Yamamoto


-----Original Message-----
From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 12:12 AM
To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Platform dependency

Hello Go,
The answer is when? How much resources (developer) do you need? I might spread the voices throughs meetup.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.


2018-04-02 10:58 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> As far as I understand the official repository is here.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> The contents have been unchanged for 2 years while actual development 
> works have been active in other repositories.
>
> I think the problem is in lack of human resources for review/edit 
> pull-requests at the master repository.
> We need such active editorial efforts at the master repository to 
> support modern development style with CI/CD.
> CI/CD workflows require a fork repository at each organization, and 
> releases from organizations will be merged to the master by pull-requests.
> However nobody has been working for the role so far.
>
> NTT would like to solve the issue by taking the role, and would like 
> to join the management  loop of this project because we need to 
> discuss/define criterion for review and edit.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:29 PM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Platform dependency
>
> Ok,
> it is a mess to have spread repositories in two sites. I will expect 
> to have directly in the Apache ASF. I don't know which is the direct 
> repository.  For now i have been able to build the lib on ubuntu with 
> github no apache repo I am bit confused about 11 repos at Apache, 
> which code is not updated since 2 years..What is the block (to remove) 
> to move your current repository to apache? And when will be the first 
> release of at least the library? Can I help in planning and merging 
> the repositories?  If we dont release often, we cannot spread the 
> voice, integrate iwth other apache products and the community will not grow.
> Best Regards,
> Giorgio.
>
> 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, 
> > and it should work with react, too.
> >
> > If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> > However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication 
> > module and I hope this would answer your question.
> >
> > The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that 
> > replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As 
> > we demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, 
> > WordPress, Drupal, and many other applications.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> > Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >
> > > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> > >
> > > "We" means NTT in this context.
> > >
> > > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code 
> > > at the official repository.
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> > >
> > > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official 
> > > repository resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to
> install it.
> > >
> > > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> > >
> > > Who is "we" in this case?
> > > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Go Yamamoto
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > >
> > > > Hi Go,
> > > >
> > > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to 
> > > > fill in
> > > the
> > > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > > >
> > > > Nikolai
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi 
> > > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok,
> > > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a 
> > > > > plan and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto 
> > > > > <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors 
> > > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it 
> > > > > > is the master of the project.
> > > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > advancements
> > > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code.
> > > > > > Porting some
> > > > > code
> > > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto 
> > > > > > <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to 
> > > > > > > start the official repository to share the codes we have 
> > > > > > > worked for
> > > years.
> > > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > participate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is 
> > > > > > > responsible to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Go
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some 
> > > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being 
> > > > > > > > able to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been 
> > > > > > > > really clear how this needs to be done from a procedural 
> > > > > > > > stand
> point.
> > > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to 
> > > > > > > > manipulate the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the 
> > > > > > > > project mentors can do that, but what needs to be done 
> > > > > > > > in order for this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't 
> > > > > > > > have resources to lead the project, but the question is 
> > > > > > > > - in a community like this, who is responsible to craft 
> > > > > > > > a
> roadmap?
> > > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the 
> > > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I 
> > > > > > > > guess if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, 
> > > > > > > > they can propose a
> > > roadmap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, 
> > > > > > > > with full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the 
> > > > > > > > project when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > roadmap.
> > > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto 
> > > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication 
> > > > > > > > server/clients second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we 
> > > > > > > > have found no problems in actual use in our engineering
> activities.
> > > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more 
> > > > > > > > before the crypto library released since the current 
> > > > > > > > code does not seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test 
> > > > > > > > codes are required for the first release, they will at 
> > > > > > > > least help further development activities.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible 
> > > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if 
> > > > > > > > they are
> > > > > > merged.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support 
> > > > > > > > hardware as
> > > well?
> > > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
> release?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library 
> > > > > > > > inside
> > > Apache?
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be 
> > > > > > > > used from
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need 
> > > > > > > > to make sure
> > > > > Go
> > > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  
> > > > > > > > I'm not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem 
> > > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to 
> > > > > > > > provide our
> > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to 
> > > > > > > > move the
> > > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers 
> > > > > > > > to the
> > > crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so 
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the 
> > > > > > > > original
> > > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
> project,
> > > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need 
> > > > > > > > some
> > > repository
> > > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the 
> > > > > > > > past, to the best of my
> > > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute 
> > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role 
> > > > > > > > in the project
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and 
> > > > > > > > Go Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will 
> > > > > > > > help on getting
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
> the
> > > head.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation 
> > > > > > > > from
> > > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes 
> > > > > > > > to Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> > implications
> > > I
> > > am
> > > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code 
> > > > > > > > within the
> > > > > > podling.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > > library.
> > > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I 
> > > > > > > > would like to ask
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > > ready
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > > repository
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> > from
> > > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > > continuously,
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the 
> > > > > > > > project for
> > > years.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
> take
> > > over
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > problem.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> > johndament@apache.org
> > > ]
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > > about
> > > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up 
> > > > > > > > to help out the project.
> > > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> > has
> > > > > > included
> > > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > > move
> > > of
> > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github 
> > > > > > > > have been
> > > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> > nothing.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > > repositories
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
> Milagro
> > > should
> > > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > g
> > > > > %3E
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > > MIRACL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Go,
The answer is when? How much resources (developer) do you need? I might
spread the voices throughs meetup.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.


2018-04-02 10:58 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> As far as I understand the official repository is here.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> The contents have been unchanged for 2 years while actual development
> works have been active in other repositories.
>
> I think the problem is in lack of human resources for review/edit
> pull-requests at the master repository.
> We need such active editorial efforts at the master repository to support
> modern development style with CI/CD.
> CI/CD workflows require a fork repository at each organization, and
> releases from organizations will be merged to the master by pull-requests.
> However nobody has been working for the role so far.
>
> NTT would like to solve the issue by taking the role, and would like to
> join the management  loop of this project because we need to discuss/define
> criterion for review and edit.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:29 PM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Platform dependency
>
> Ok,
> it is a mess to have spread repositories in two sites. I will expect to
> have directly in the Apache ASF. I don't know which is the direct
> repository.  For now i have been able to build the lib on ubuntu with
> github no apache repo I am bit confused about 11 repos at Apache, which
> code is not updated since 2 years..What is the block (to remove) to move
> your current repository to apache? And when will be the first release of at
> least the library? Can I help in planning and merging the repositories?  If
> we dont release often, we cannot spread the voice, integrate iwth other
> apache products and the community will not grow.
> Best Regards,
> Giorgio.
>
> 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and
> > it should work with react, too.
> >
> > If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> > However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module
> > and I hope this would answer your question.
> >
> > The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> > replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As
> > we demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress,
> > Drupal, and many other applications.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> > Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >
> > > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> > >
> > > "We" means NTT in this context.
> > >
> > > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code
> > > at the official repository.
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> > >
> > > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official
> > > repository resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to
> install it.
> > >
> > > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> > >
> > > Who is "we" in this case?
> > > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Go Yamamoto
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > >
> > > > Hi Go,
> > > >
> > > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to
> > > > fill in
> > > the
> > > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > > >
> > > > Nikolai
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> > > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok,
> > > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> > > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> > > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it
> > > > > > is the master of the project.
> > > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > > advancements
> > > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code.
> > > > > > Porting some
> > > > > code
> > > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to
> > > > > > > start the official repository to share the codes we have
> > > > > > > worked for
> > > years.
> > > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > > participate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is
> > > > > > > responsible to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Go
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> > > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being
> > > > > > > > able to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> > > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand
> point.
> > > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to
> > > > > > > > manipulate the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the
> > > > > > > > project mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in
> > > > > > > > order for this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't
> > > > > > > > have resources to lead the project, but the question is -
> > > > > > > > in a community like this, who is responsible to craft a
> roadmap?
> > > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> > > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I
> > > > > > > > guess if/when NTT take the leading role on the project,
> > > > > > > > they can propose a
> > > roadmap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> > > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> > > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > > roadmap.
> > > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> > > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> > > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we
> > > > > > > > have found no problems in actual use in our engineering
> activities.
> > > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> > > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does
> > > > > > > > not seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test
> > > > > > > > codes are required for the first release, they will at
> > > > > > > > least help further development activities.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> > > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> > > > > > > > they are
> > > > > > merged.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> > > > > > > > as
> > > well?
> > > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
> release?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> > > > > > > > inside
> > > Apache?
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be
> > > > > > > > used from
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> > > > > > > > make sure
> > > > > Go
> > > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> > > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to
> > > > > > > > provide our
> > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> > > > > > > > move the
> > > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> > > > > > > > original
> > > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
> project,
> > > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > > repository
> > > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> > > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role
> > > > > > > > in the project
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> > > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will
> > > > > > > > help on getting
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
> the
> > > head.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> > > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> > implications
> > > I
> > > am
> > > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code
> > > > > > > > within the
> > > > > > podling.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > > library.
> > > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I
> > > > > > > > would like to ask
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > > ready
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > > repository
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> > from
> > > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > > continuously,
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> > > > > > > > for
> > > years.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
> take
> > > over
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > > problem.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> > johndament@apache.org
> > > ]
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > > about
> > > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> > > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> > has
> > > > > > included
> > > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > > move
> > > of
> > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> > nothing.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > > repositories
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
> Milagro
> > > should
> > > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.or
> > > > > > > > g
> > > > > %3E
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > > MIRACL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: Platform dependency

Posted by Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>.
As far as I understand the official repository is here.
https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
The contents have been unchanged for 2 years while actual development works have been active in other repositories.

I think the problem is in lack of human resources for review/edit pull-requests at the master repository.
We need such active editorial efforts at the master repository to support modern development style with CI/CD.
CI/CD workflows require a fork repository at each organization, and releases from organizations will be merged to the master by pull-requests.
However nobody has been working for the role so far.

NTT would like to solve the issue by taking the role, and would like to join the management  loop of this project because we need to discuss/define criterion for review and edit.

Regards,
Go Yamamoto


-----Original Message-----
From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:29 PM
To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Platform dependency

Ok,
it is a mess to have spread repositories in two sites. I will expect to have directly in the Apache ASF. I don't know which is the direct repository.  For now i have been able to build the lib on ubuntu with github no apache repo I am bit confused about 11 repos at Apache, which code is not updated since 2 years..What is the block (to remove) to move your current repository to apache? And when will be the first release of at least the library? Can I help in planning and merging the repositories?  If we dont release often, we cannot spread the voice, integrate iwth other apache products and the community will not grow.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.

2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and 
> it should work with react, too.
>
> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module 
> and I hope this would answer your question.
>
> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that 
> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As 
> we demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, 
> Drupal, and many other applications.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>
>
> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >
> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >
> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code 
> > at the official repository.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >
> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official 
> > repository resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >
> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >
> > Who is "we" in this case?
> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > Hi Go,
> > >
> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to 
> > > fill in
> > the
> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > >
> > > Nikolai
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi 
> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan 
> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors 
> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it 
> > > > > is the master of the project.
> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > advancements
> > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. 
> > > > > Porting some
> > > > code
> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto 
> > > > > <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to 
> > > > > > start the official repository to share the codes we have 
> > > > > > worked for
> > years.
> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > participate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is 
> > > > > > responsible to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some 
> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being 
> > > > > > > able to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really 
> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to 
> > > > > > > manipulate the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the 
> > > > > > > project mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in 
> > > > > > > order for this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't 
> > > > > > > have resources to lead the project, but the question is - 
> > > > > > > in a community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the 
> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I 
> > > > > > > guess if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, 
> > > > > > > they can propose a
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with 
> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project 
> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto 
> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients 
> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we 
> > > > > > > have found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before 
> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does 
> > > > > > > not seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test 
> > > > > > > codes are required for the first release, they will at 
> > > > > > > least help further development activities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible 
> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if 
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware 
> > > > > > > as
> > well?
> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library 
> > > > > > > inside
> > Apache?
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be 
> > > > > > > used from
> > > > other
> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to 
> > > > > > > make sure
> > > > Go
> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm 
> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem 
> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to 
> > > > > > > provide our
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to 
> > > > > > > move the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to 
> > > > > > > the
> > crypto
> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so 
> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the 
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past, 
> > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role 
> > > > > > > in the project
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go 
> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will 
> > > > > > > help on getting
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> > head.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to 
> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> implications
> > I
> > am
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code 
> > > > > > > within the
> > > > > podling.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > library.
> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I 
> > > > > > > would like to ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > ready
> > > > to
> > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > repository
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> from
> > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > continuously,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project 
> > > > > > > for
> > years.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > problem.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> johndament@apache.org
> > ]
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > about
> > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to 
> > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> has
> > > > > included
> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > move
> > of
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have 
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> nothing.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > repositories
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> > should
> > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.or
> > > > > > > g
> > > > %3E
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > MIRACL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Ok,
it is a mess to have spread repositories in two sites. I will expect to
have directly in the Apache ASF. I don't know which is the direct
repository.  For now i have been able to build the lib on ubuntu with
github no apache repo I am bit confused about 11 repos at Apache, which
code is not updated since 2 years..What is the block (to remove) to move
your current repository to apache? And when will be the first release of at
least the library? Can I help in planning and merging the repositories?  If
we dont release often, we cannot spread the voice, integrate iwth other
apache products and the community will not grow.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.

2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:

> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
> should work with react, too.
>
> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and
> I hope this would answer your question.
>
> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal,
> and many other applications.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>
>
> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >
> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >
> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
> > the official repository.
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >
> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >
> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >
> > Who is "we" in this case?
> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > Hi Go,
> > >
> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
> > > in
> > the
> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > >
> > > Nikolai
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > >
> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
> > > > > the master of the project.
> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > advancements
> > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > >
> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
> > > > > some
> > > > code
> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> > years.
> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > participate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
> > > > > > > propose a
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > roadmap.
> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
> > > > > > > further development activities.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> > > > > > > they are
> > > > > merged.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> > > > > > > as
> > well?
> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> > > > > > > inside
> > Apache?
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
> > > > > > > from
> > > > other
> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> > > > > > > make sure
> > > > Go
> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> > > > > > > move the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> > > > > > > the
> > crypto
> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> > > > > > > original
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > repository
> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
> > > > > > > the project
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
> > > > > > > on getting
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
> > head.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> implications
> > I
> > am
> > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > podling.
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > library.
> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
> > > > > > > like to ask
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > ready
> > > > to
> > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > repository
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> from
> > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > continuously,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> > > > > > > for
> > years.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take
> > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > problem.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> johndament@apache.org
> > ]
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > about
> > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> has
> > > > > included
> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > move
> > of
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> nothing.
> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > repositories
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
> > should
> > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> > > > %3E
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> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > MIRACL
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