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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> on 2013/10/07 16:33:32 UTC
Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> >> To: dev
> >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> >>
> >> H Animesh and the rest,
> >>
> >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion is
> >> that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right now.
> >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> >>
> >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> >> Daan
> > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
>
> I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
-chip
RE: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:Chiradeep.Vittal@citrix.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:21 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> +1.
> We should get a call out to the community to see who is expecting to
> merge for 4.3.
> Although 10/31 is the feature freeze date, proposals and branches
> should be in already IMHO.
[Animesh>] While I had created and updated the 4.3 page with dates it was not explicitly called out since I was expecting the to-be release manager to state that. We are already passed the feature proposal date of 9/30, does anyone think that the feature proposal last day should be extended to Friday 10/11 giving 72 hour notice. I prefer not to change and stick to the original dates as below.
Feature freeze : 10/31
Code Freeze : 11/29
RC : 12/23 (This is close to Christmas, so either we pull in by couple of days, or make it first week of Jan)
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cloudstack+4.3+Release
>
> On 10/8/13 9:54 AM, "Chip Childers" <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:49:24PM +0000, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> >>
> >> > Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO),
> >> > start a discussion on (1) coordination of work and
> >> [Animesh>] Since we are getting closer to code freeze date and we
> >>cannot find overall release management I can pick up 4.3 and call out
> >>the roles and ask for volunteers for them.
> >
> >Sounds good.
> >
> >>
> >> (2) re-thinking the schedule
> >> > to reset based on both historic performance and reality of the
> >>calendar
> >> > (we've really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to
> >>4.3).
> >> [Animesh>] Chip my preference would be to stick to the timeline of
> >>4.3 which will make it a smaller release but will give us the
> >>opportunity to clear up our technical debt.
> >
> >+1 to being smaller and tech-debt focused.
> >
> >-chip
Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Chiradeep Vittal <Ch...@citrix.com>.
+1.
We should get a call out to the community to see who is expecting to merge
for 4.3.
Although 10/31 is the feature freeze date, proposals and branches should
be in already IMHO.
On 10/8/13 9:54 AM, "Chip Childers" <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:49:24PM +0000, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
>>
>> > Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
>> > discussion on (1) coordination of work and
>> [Animesh>] Since we are getting closer to code freeze date and we
>>cannot find overall release management I can pick up 4.3 and call out
>>the roles and ask for volunteers for them.
>
>Sounds good.
>
>>
>> (2) re-thinking the schedule
>> > to reset based on both historic performance and reality of the
>>calendar
>> > (we've really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to
>>4.3).
>> [Animesh>] Chip my preference would be to stick to the timeline of 4.3
>>which will make it a smaller release but will give us the opportunity to
>>clear up our technical debt.
>
>+1 to being smaller and tech-debt focused.
>
>-chip
Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:49:24PM +0000, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
>
> > Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
> > discussion on (1) coordination of work and
> [Animesh>] Since we are getting closer to code freeze date and we cannot find overall release management I can pick up 4.3 and call out the roles and ask for volunteers for them.
Sounds good.
>
> (2) re-thinking the schedule
> > to reset based on both historic performance and reality of the calendar
> > (we've really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to 4.3).
> [Animesh>] Chip my preference would be to stick to the timeline of 4.3 which will make it a smaller release but will give us the opportunity to clear up our technical debt.
+1 to being smaller and tech-debt focused.
-chip
RE: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co>.
That is fine .
So lets wait and see what the rest of the community has to say .
:-)
________________________________
From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
Sent: 10/7/2013 6:44 PM
To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
We'll want to coordinate this via the mailing list actually, since the
points I made require some further discussion with the whole community. ;-)
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co> wrote:
> Sounds good .
> Ok will catch you in IRC on wed sk we can see what to do and discuss finer
> details.
>
> Thanks .
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> Sent: 10/7/2013 6:23 PM
> To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> I think you might be able to help though!
>
> We basically need to structure the work around various "cat herding" [1]
> activities (forgive the metaphore, but it's appropriate... ;-) ). I'm sure
> that there is something... perhaps helping keep on top of reviewboard
> submissions, to politely nudge relevant committers to review specific
> submissions.
>
> Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
> discussion on (1) coordination of work and (2) re-thinking the schedule to
> reset based on both historic performance and reality of the calendar (we've
> really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to 4.3).
>
> That should give us a view into where help is needed!
>
> -chip
>
> [1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herding%20cats
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I would volunteer with but I think I am still to junior to .
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Frankie Onuonga
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> > Sent: 10/7/2013 5:34 PM
> > To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> > animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> > > >> To: dev
> > > >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> > > >>
> > > >> H Animesh and the rest,
> > > >>
> > > >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion
> is
> > > >> that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right
> now.
> > > >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> > > >>
> > > >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> > > >> Daan
> > > > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
> > >
> > > I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
> >
> > I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
> > breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
> > and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
> >
> > -chip
> >
>
Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
We'll want to coordinate this via the mailing list actually, since the
points I made require some further discussion with the whole community. ;-)
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co> wrote:
> Sounds good .
> Ok will catch you in IRC on wed sk we can see what to do and discuss finer
> details.
>
> Thanks .
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> Sent: 10/7/2013 6:23 PM
> To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> I think you might be able to help though!
>
> We basically need to structure the work around various "cat herding" [1]
> activities (forgive the metaphore, but it's appropriate... ;-) ). I'm sure
> that there is something... perhaps helping keep on top of reviewboard
> submissions, to politely nudge relevant committers to review specific
> submissions.
>
> Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
> discussion on (1) coordination of work and (2) re-thinking the schedule to
> reset based on both historic performance and reality of the calendar (we've
> really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to 4.3).
>
> That should give us a view into where help is needed!
>
> -chip
>
> [1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herding%20cats
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I would volunteer with but I think I am still to junior to .
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Frankie Onuonga
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> > Sent: 10/7/2013 5:34 PM
> > To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> > animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> > > >> To: dev
> > > >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> > > >>
> > > >> H Animesh and the rest,
> > > >>
> > > >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion
> is
> > > >> that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right
> now.
> > > >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> > > >>
> > > >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> > > >> Daan
> > > > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
> > >
> > > I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
> >
> > I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
> > breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
> > and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
> >
> > -chip
> >
>
RE: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co>.
Sounds good .
Ok will catch you in IRC on wed sk we can see what to do and discuss finer details.
Thanks .
Kind Regards
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
Sent: 10/7/2013 6:23 PM
To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
I think you might be able to help though!
We basically need to structure the work around various "cat herding" [1]
activities (forgive the metaphore, but it's appropriate... ;-) ). I'm sure
that there is something... perhaps helping keep on top of reviewboard
submissions, to politely nudge relevant committers to review specific
submissions.
Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
discussion on (1) coordination of work and (2) re-thinking the schedule to
reset based on both historic performance and reality of the calendar (we've
really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to 4.3).
That should give us a view into where help is needed!
-chip
[1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herding%20cats
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co> wrote:
>
> I would volunteer with but I think I am still to junior to .
>
> Kind regards
> Frankie Onuonga
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> Sent: 10/7/2013 5:34 PM
> To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> > >> To: dev
> > >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> > >>
> > >> H Animesh and the rest,
> > >>
> > >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion is
> > >> that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right now.
> > >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> > >>
> > >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> > >> Daan
> > > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
> >
> > I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
>
> I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
> breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
> and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
>
> -chip
>
RE: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:22 AM
> To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> I think you might be able to help though!
>
> We basically need to structure the work around various "cat herding" [1]
> activities (forgive the metaphore, but it's appropriate... ;-) ). I'm
> sure that there is something... perhaps helping keep on top of
> reviewboard submissions, to politely nudge relevant committers to review
> specific submissions.
>
> Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
> discussion on (1) coordination of work and
[Animesh>] Since we are getting closer to code freeze date and we cannot find overall release management I can pick up 4.3 and call out the roles and ask for volunteers for them.
(2) re-thinking the schedule
> to reset based on both historic performance and reality of the calendar
> (we've really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to 4.3).
[Animesh>] Chip my preference would be to stick to the timeline of 4.3 which will make it a smaller release but will give us the opportunity to clear up our technical debt.
>
> That should give us a view into where help is needed!
>
> -chip
>
> [1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herding%20cats
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I would volunteer with but I think I am still to junior to .
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Frankie Onuonga
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> > Sent: 10/7/2013 5:34 PM
> > To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> > animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> > > >> To: dev
> > > >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> > > >>
> > > >> H Animesh and the rest,
> > > >>
> > > >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The
> > > >> conclusion is that it is not wise to take up the task as release
> manager right now.
> > > >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> > > >>
> > > >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> > > >> Daan
> > > > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
> > >
> > > I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
> >
> > I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
> > breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of
> "rolls"
> > and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
> >
> > -chip
> >
Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
I think you might be able to help though!
We basically need to structure the work around various "cat herding" [1]
activities (forgive the metaphore, but it's appropriate... ;-) ). I'm sure
that there is something... perhaps helping keep on top of reviewboard
submissions, to politely nudge relevant committers to review specific
submissions.
Whomever wants to take the lead for 4.3 should probably (IMO), start a
discussion on (1) coordination of work and (2) re-thinking the schedule to
reset based on both historic performance and reality of the calendar (we've
really been working on 4.2 when we should have moved on to 4.3).
That should give us a view into where help is needed!
-chip
[1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herding%20cats
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co> wrote:
>
> I would volunteer with but I think I am still to junior to .
>
> Kind regards
> Frankie Onuonga
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
> Sent: 10/7/2013 5:34 PM
> To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> > >> To: dev
> > >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> > >>
> > >> H Animesh and the rest,
> > >>
> > >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion is
> > >> that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right now.
> > >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> > >>
> > >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> > >> Daan
> > > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
> >
> > I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
>
> I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
> breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
> and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
>
> -chip
>
RE: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by Frankie Onuonga <fr...@angani.co>.
I would volunteer with but I think I am still to junior to .
Kind regards
Frankie Onuonga
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Chip Childers<ma...@sungard.com>
Sent: 10/7/2013 5:34 PM
To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> >> To: dev
> >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> >>
> >> H Animesh and the rest,
> >>
> >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion is
> >> that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right now.
> >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> >>
> >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> >> Daan
> > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
>
> I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of
breaking up the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
-chip
RE: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Animesh,
I'm tentative @ the moment, but would like to help with 4.3 as secondary RM pending the personal changes in the next 2 months.
Regards
ilya
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:34 AM
> To: <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:27PM -0400, Chip Childers wrote:
> > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:51 AM
> > >> To: dev
> > >> Subject: Re: Call for 4.3 and 4.2.1 Release Managers!
> > >>
> > >> H Animesh and the rest,
> > >>
> > >> I had some consults at home and at Schuberg Philis. The conclusion
> > >> is that it is not wise to take up the task as release manager right now.
> > >> I will be glad to take it up some future iteration.
> > >>
> > >> sorry to lay this burden back,
> > >> Daan
> > > [Animesh>] Ok anyone else wants to step up to the plate.
> >
> > I'm willing to do 4.3 if nobody else can / wants too.
>
> I'm actually going to have to pass on this. Also, given the idea of breaking up
> the work, perhaps someone can volunteer the list of "rolls"
> and others can step up to take each of the partial RM rolls for 4.3?
>
> -chip