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[users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with no
problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory im
sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
direction to get this to work ASAP
Thanks
Dale
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Luis Moreira <la...@bes.pt>.
It really seems as if you want to protect yourself from FTP usage, not HTTP access.
If people use your page through http, then the directory is READ FROM and not WROTE TO.
If you have an FTP server, then you should configure the login name to be able to just read and even to write only to certain directories.
Do you have an FTP server running ? If so, which one, and which OS are you using.
Luis
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From: "rott" <ro...@buckeye-express.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with no
> problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory im
> sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
> direction to get this to work ASAP
>
> Thanks
> Dale
>
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Koen Vingerhoets <ko...@ubench.com>.
Hi,
Please explain in SHORT sentences what is going wrong.
I don't understand it anymore.
btw: 'spread sheet', 'write'
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From: rott [mailto:rott@buckeye-express.com]
Sent: 06 November 2002 17:27
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
I did that was the first thing I did and even restarted web server and it
didn't work could still open any spread shit click file and save as and over
right any data in the file
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Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> Hi,
>
> make the directory READ ONLY in Windows 2000...
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
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> Koen Vingerhoets
>
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> Sent: 06 November 2002 16:59
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> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
>
>
> yes I am very sure it is apache http and not ftp it is a directory of
> student work sheets that right now ppl can save over all the work done by
> many other students what is happening is people upload there spread sheets
> threw a cgi script to the directory if you open up one of the spread shits
> with every ones work on it and save as under file in Excel it will over
> write the spread sheet in the directory
>
> apache 1.27 on win2000
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> Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
>
>
> > I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with
no
> > problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory
im
> > sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
> > direction to get this to work ASAP
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dale
> >
> >
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by rott <ro...@buckeye-express.com>.
I am looking at MS.com now for any patches or updates sorry I was so
confusing in the start
I believe it is office trying to by-pass apache settings
(Lourdes Jones) in the start of this thread I said it was win2k :)
I am not aloud to use Linux for servers here campus EIT don't support it :(
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From: "Diego Cimarosti" <cd...@rete039.it>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> Now it more understandable. Well it could actually be an Office bug. Did
> you check it on microsoft.com? Check for service packs or big fixes, maybe
> you will find the solution, or try to report the bug to MS.
> Moreover. Do permissions on files change after a change has been keeping
> the file open for a long time?
>
> Diego
>
> At 12.53 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
> >NO Students don't re-upload just download when you open a office document
on
> >the web it opens automatically in office on your computer ...
> >problem is they can also open up other excel sheets from other labs and
over
> >right data while still connected to the server so if you save changes it
> >affects the one on the server
> >
> >so i made the directory read-only
> >that seemed to fix the problem
> >but then if you try to save-as, it says cant this directory was opened as
> >read-only.
> >But if you just close out after that alot of the time the changes are
> >staying.
> >So if a student wants to screw people over, he could erase or over write
a
> >hole labs data sheets and the information is not recoverable. So I am
> >starting to think it is an office2K bug and has nothing to do with apache
> >
> >
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Diego Cimarosti <cd...@rete039.it>.
Now it more understandable. Well it could actually be an Office bug. Did
you check it on microsoft.com? Check for service packs or big fixes, maybe
you will find the solution, or try to report the bug to MS.
Moreover. Do permissions on files change after a change has been keeping
the file open for a long time?
Diego
At 12.53 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
>NO Students don't re-upload just download when you open a office document on
>the web it opens automatically in office on your computer ...
>problem is they can also open up other excel sheets from other labs and over
>right data while still connected to the server so if you save changes it
>affects the one on the server
>
>so i made the directory read-only
>that seemed to fix the problem
>but then if you try to save-as, it says cant this directory was opened as
>read-only.
>But if you just close out after that alot of the time the changes are
>staying.
>So if a student wants to screw people over, he could erase or over write a
>hole labs data sheets and the information is not recoverable. So I am
>starting to think it is an office2K bug and has nothing to do with apache
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by rott <ro...@buckeye-express.com>.
NO Students don't re-upload just download when you open a office document on
the web it opens automatically in office on your computer ...
problem is they can also open up other excel sheets from other labs and over
right data while still connected to the server so if you save changes it
affects the one on the server
so i made the directory read-only
that seemed to fix the problem
but then if you try to save-as, it says cant this directory was opened as
read-only.
But if you just close out after that alot of the time the changes are
staying.
So if a student wants to screw people over, he could erase or over write a
hole labs data sheets and the information is not recoverable. So I am
starting to think it is an office2K bug and has nothing to do with apache
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Diego Cimarosti <cd...@rete039.it>.
I'm still not sure.
Students download the spread sheet to use it as a template, and then write
it back on the webserver once they have filled it in?
If that's the thing, I guess you shuold make a directory for download only
(read access) and one for upload. You shuold create a script that renames
or move files once they are written in the destination directory, so that
filenames don't overlap causing rewrites. Or you could create password
protected directories for every student, but it's a bit long (depends on
number of students :) and you will end up with files spread in many dirs
(which could be moved by a script, as well).
This is my idea, if I got the problem right.
Anyway I think apache (or a webserver in general) is not the right
application for this purpose. An application server could help, but would
increase complexity a lot.
Diego
At 12.29 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
> > Does every student need to read/write on all the files?
>
>no just there section
>
> > Is it possible that some student can write and other only read?
>Does a student read/write only his own files, or must he read other ones
>files too?
>
>student should have no wright access to this directory at all just be able
>to download then turn in there work sheet's by hand
>
>but there TA's need read/write access to the directory
> >
> > Diego
> >
> > At 12.11 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
> > >ok sorry just a lot of stress
> > >
> > >here it all is
> > >
> > >students need to be able to access
>http://www.my.domain.com/vitalcapacity/
> > >to download spread sheets to fill in info in to them, problem is that if
>you
> > >open one (eg.2160_004.xls) it will open up in Excel as read only that is
> > >good I thought, I tried to change data and it let me clicking on Save As
> > >wont let you save the changes but if you just close the browser the
>changes
> > >stay.
> > >
> > >So it would let a student over right all data in his lab not only his but
> > >all of them
> > >
> > >Im not really sure if this is even an apach problem
> > >
> > >
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by rott <ro...@buckeye-express.com>.
> Does every student need to read/write on all the files?
no just there section
> Is it possible that some student can write and other only read?
Does a student read/write only his own files, or must he read other ones
files too?
student should have no wright access to this directory at all just be able
to download then turn in there work sheet's by hand
but there TA's need read/write access to the directory
>
> Diego
>
> At 12.11 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
> >ok sorry just a lot of stress
> >
> >here it all is
> >
> >students need to be able to access
http://www.my.domain.com/vitalcapacity/
> >to download spread sheets to fill in info in to them, problem is that if
you
> >open one (eg.2160_004.xls) it will open up in Excel as read only that is
> >good I thought, I tried to change data and it let me clicking on Save As
> >wont let you save the changes but if you just close the browser the
changes
> >stay.
> >
> >So it would let a student over right all data in his lab not only his but
> >all of them
> >
> >Im not really sure if this is even an apach problem
> >
> >
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Diego Cimarosti <cd...@rete039.it>.
Does every student need to read/write on all the files?
Is it possible that some student can write and other only read? Does a
student read/write only his own files, or must he read other ones files too?
Diego
At 12.11 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
>ok sorry just a lot of stress
>
>here it all is
>
>students need to be able to access http://www.my.domain.com/vitalcapacity/
>to download spread sheets to fill in info in to them, problem is that if you
>open one (eg.2160_004.xls) it will open up in Excel as read only that is
>good I thought, I tried to change data and it let me clicking on Save As
>wont let you save the changes but if you just close the browser the changes
>stay.
>
>So it would let a student over right all data in his lab not only his but
>all of them
>
>Im not really sure if this is even an apach problem
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by rott <ro...@buckeye-express.com>.
ok sorry just a lot of stress
here it all is
students need to be able to access http://www.my.domain.com/vitalcapacity/
to download spread sheets to fill in info in to them, problem is that if you
open one (eg.2160_004.xls) it will open up in Excel as read only that is
good I thought, I tried to change data and it let me clicking on Save As
wont let you save the changes but if you just close the browser the changes
stay.
So it would let a student over right all data in his lab not only his but
all of them
Im not really sure if this is even an apach problem
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Diego Cimarosti <cd...@rete039.it>.
Well, you surely need to use some commas and dots. It's quite hard to
understand the problem you are experiencing...
Diego
At 11.27 06/11/2002 -0500, rott wrote:
>I did that was the first thing I did and even restarted web server and it
>didn't work could still open any spread shit click file and save as and over
>right any data in the file
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Koen Vingerhoets" <ko...@ubench.com>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 AM
>Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > make the directory READ ONLY in Windows 2000...
> >
> > Met vriendelijke groet,
> >
> > Koen Vingerhoets
> >
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> > Sent: 06 November 2002 16:59
> > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> >
> >
> > yes I am very sure it is apache http and not ftp it is a directory of
> > student work sheets that right now ppl can save over all the work done by
> > many other students what is happening is people upload there spread sheets
> > threw a cgi script to the directory if you open up one of the spread shits
> > with every ones work on it and save as under file in Excel it will over
> > write the spread sheet in the directory
> >
> > apache 1.27 on win2000
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rott" <ro...@buckeye-express.com>
> > To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:21 AM
> > Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> >
> >
> > > I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with
>no
> > > problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory
>im
> > > sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
> > > direction to get this to work ASAP
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by rott <ro...@buckeye-express.com>.
I did that was the first thing I did and even restarted web server and it
didn't work could still open any spread shit click file and save as and over
right any data in the file
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From: "Koen Vingerhoets" <ko...@ubench.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> Hi,
>
> make the directory READ ONLY in Windows 2000...
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Koen Vingerhoets
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> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
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>
> yes I am very sure it is apache http and not ftp it is a directory of
> student work sheets that right now ppl can save over all the work done by
> many other students what is happening is people upload there spread sheets
> threw a cgi script to the directory if you open up one of the spread shits
> with every ones work on it and save as under file in Excel it will over
> write the spread sheet in the directory
>
> apache 1.27 on win2000
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> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:21 AM
> Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
>
>
> > I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with
no
> > problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory
im
> > sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
> > direction to get this to work ASAP
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dale
> >
> >
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Koen Vingerhoets <ko...@ubench.com>.
Hi,
make the directory READ ONLY in Windows 2000...
Met vriendelijke groet,
Koen Vingerhoets
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-----Original Message-----
From: rott [mailto:rott@buckeye-express.com]
Sent: 06 November 2002 16:59
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
yes I am very sure it is apache http and not ftp it is a directory of
student work sheets that right now ppl can save over all the work done by
many other students what is happening is people upload there spread sheets
threw a cgi script to the directory if you open up one of the spread shits
with every ones work on it and save as under file in Excel it will over
write the spread sheet in the directory
apache 1.27 on win2000
----- Original Message -----
From: "rott" <ro...@buckeye-express.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with no
> problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory im
> sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
> direction to get this to work ASAP
>
> Thanks
> Dale
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by rott <ro...@buckeye-express.com>.
yes I am very sure it is apache http and not ftp it is a directory of
student work sheets that right now ppl can save over all the work done by
many other students what is happening is people upload there spread sheets
threw a cgi script to the directory if you open up one of the spread shits
with every ones work on it and save as under file in Excel it will over
write the spread sheet in the directory
apache 1.27 on win2000
----- Original Message -----
From: "rott" <ro...@buckeye-express.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
> I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with no
> problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory im
> sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
> direction to get this to work ASAP
>
> Thanks
> Dale
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
Posted by Koen Vingerhoets <ko...@ubench.com>.
I need to know ASAP what OS you use so I can help you out and maybe even
give a solution that is ofcourse after i know what OS you use because
without that knowledge
Koen
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From: rott [mailto:rott@buckeye-express.com]
Sent: 06 November 2002 16:22
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] Directory help need by newbie
I have a directory I need people to be able to download files from with no
problems I just don't want them to be able to upload to this directory im
sure there is away to do this I just need to be pointed in the right
direction to get this to work ASAP
Thanks
Dale
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