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Posted to dev@jmeter.apache.org by sebb <se...@gmail.com> on 2013/07/01 00:42:02 UTC
Re: [Bug 55167] Bug report bundle
On 30 June 2013 22:40, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello sebb,
> Regarding this, we recently had a case where this feature would have been
> useful.
> I had around 10 requests to have the information and finally only got 10%
> of it.
> It was the issue with an OOM when opening help.
>
> So I think it could be useful to us.
Well, there are lots of tools that might be useful to JMeter users;
that does not mean they should be added to core JMeter.
> Making it an external tool outside of GUI means more complexity to
> beginners or people already having other issues with JMeter.
It can still be a GUI.
> Regards
> philippe
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2013, wrote:
>
>> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167
>>
>> --- Comment #2 from UbikLoadPack support <support@ubikloadpack.com<javascript:;>>
>> ---
>> it could be but it seems to us it would be better if it is in the gui.
>> For example our plugin users sometime report bugs, with this feature
>> except for
>> a test case and some big notes everything is bundled in the generated zip.
>> It's much like generate heap dump.
>>
>> This kind of feature is frequent in softwares and would be useful even for
>> your
>> support at Apache JMeter team.
>>
>> Regarding size it should increase it by few bytes no ?
>>
>> --
>> You are receiving this mail because:
>> You are the assignee for the bug.
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: [Bug 55167] Bug report bundle
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 July 2013 09:42, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Milamber <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Le 01/07/2013 08:46, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
>>
>>> Hello sebb,
>>> On my side I would like to integrate it as I think it would be useful, see
>>> this:
>>>
>>> - https://issues.apache.org/**bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648<https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648>
>>> - https://issues.apache.org/**bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799<https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799>
>>>
>>>
>>> We could add a note on how to use it here:
>>>
>>> - http://jmeter.apache.org/**issues.html<http://jmeter.apache.org/issues.html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And it would look professional.
>>> Eclipse has the Same kind of thing and many other tools have it.
>>>
>>> I don't understand why we would refuse it as it is developed and seems to
>>> me useful.
>>>
>>> Milamber, Rainer , any thoughts ?
>>>
>>
>> I've saw the patch. It retrieves jmeter.log file, and *all?* files in bin
>> directory?
>>
>> It's seems that introduce some issues around privacy data / anonymous data?
>> Some warnings must be display to the user or/and some anonymous process on
>> data must run on these data?
>>
>>
>> Ok I agree with this one. But anonymizing might break interesting
> information.
>
>
>> Also, I'm not sure this feature must be directly in the menus of JMeter.
>> In the mind of user, that would be: Hum, JMeter needs a menu "Bug report
>> bundle"! therefore that would mean: JMeter is very buggy?
>>
>
> I don't think so, as I said Eclipse has this menu item. Also any tool has
> bugs, it is frequently related to its success :-) so it does not hurt me.
>
>
>> In my opinion, a small program (batch/shell ou java standalone) in extras
>> directory may be sufficient. It will not very difficult to launch this
>> program for people using JMeter.
>>
>>
> Anyway I closed the issue as WONTFIX.
That seems a bit extreme; the feature seems useful, just not as part
of JMeter core.
If the patch can be reworked as a stand-alone application, I think it
would make sense to include it, assuming the privacy issues etc can be
sorted out.
>
>> Milamber
>>
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30 June 2013 22:40, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello sebb,
>>>>> Regarding this, we recently had a case where this feature would have
>>>>> been
>>>>> useful.
>>>>> I had around 10 requests to have the information and finally only got
>>>>> 10%
>>>>> of it.
>>>>> It was the issue with an OOM when opening help.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I think it could be useful to us.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, there are lots of tools that might be useful to JMeter users;
>>>> that does not mean they should be added to core JMeter.
>>>>
>>>> Making it an external tool outside of GUI means more complexity to
>>>>> beginners or people already having other issues with JMeter.
>>>>>
>>>> It can still be a GUI.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>> philippe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/**bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167<https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Comment #2 from UbikLoadPack support <support@ubikloadpack.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>> it could be but it seems to us it would be better if it is in the gui.
>>>>>> For example our plugin users sometime report bugs, with this feature
>>>>>> except for
>>>>>> a test case and some big notes everything is bundled in the generated
>>>>>>
>>>>> zip.
>>>>
>>>>> It's much like generate heap dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This kind of feature is frequent in softwares and would be useful even
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>>> support at Apache JMeter team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding size it should increase it by few bytes no ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> You are receiving this mail because:
>>>>>> You are the assignee for the bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cordialement.
>>>>> Philippe Mouawad.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: [Bug 55167] Bug report bundle
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Milamber <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Le 01/07/2013 08:46, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
>
>> Hello sebb,
>> On my side I would like to integrate it as I think it would be useful, see
>> this:
>>
>> - https://issues.apache.org/**bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648<https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648>
>> - https://issues.apache.org/**bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799<https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799>
>>
>>
>> We could add a note on how to use it here:
>>
>> - http://jmeter.apache.org/**issues.html<http://jmeter.apache.org/issues.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And it would look professional.
>> Eclipse has the Same kind of thing and many other tools have it.
>>
>> I don't understand why we would refuse it as it is developed and seems to
>> me useful.
>>
>> Milamber, Rainer , any thoughts ?
>>
>
> I've saw the patch. It retrieves jmeter.log file, and *all?* files in bin
> directory?
>
> It's seems that introduce some issues around privacy data / anonymous data?
> Some warnings must be display to the user or/and some anonymous process on
> data must run on these data?
>
>
> Ok I agree with this one. But anonymizing might break interesting
information.
> Also, I'm not sure this feature must be directly in the menus of JMeter.
> In the mind of user, that would be: Hum, JMeter needs a menu "Bug report
> bundle"! therefore that would mean: JMeter is very buggy?
>
I don't think so, as I said Eclipse has this menu item. Also any tool has
bugs, it is frequently related to its success :-) so it does not hurt me.
> In my opinion, a small program (batch/shell ou java standalone) in extras
> directory may be sufficient. It will not very difficult to launch this
> program for people using JMeter.
>
>
Anyway I closed the issue as WONTFIX.
> Milamber
>
>
>
>> Regards
>> Philippe
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 30 June 2013 22:40, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello sebb,
>>>> Regarding this, we recently had a case where this feature would have
>>>> been
>>>> useful.
>>>> I had around 10 requests to have the information and finally only got
>>>> 10%
>>>> of it.
>>>> It was the issue with an OOM when opening help.
>>>>
>>>> So I think it could be useful to us.
>>>>
>>> Well, there are lots of tools that might be useful to JMeter users;
>>> that does not mean they should be added to core JMeter.
>>>
>>> Making it an external tool outside of GUI means more complexity to
>>>> beginners or people already having other issues with JMeter.
>>>>
>>> It can still be a GUI.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>> philippe
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/**bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167<https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Comment #2 from UbikLoadPack support <support@ubikloadpack.com
>>>>>
>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>> it could be but it seems to us it would be better if it is in the gui.
>>>>> For example our plugin users sometime report bugs, with this feature
>>>>> except for
>>>>> a test case and some big notes everything is bundled in the generated
>>>>>
>>>> zip.
>>>
>>>> It's much like generate heap dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> This kind of feature is frequent in softwares and would be useful even
>>>>>
>>>> for
>>>
>>>> your
>>>>> support at Apache JMeter team.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding size it should increase it by few bytes no ?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You are receiving this mail because:
>>>>> You are the assignee for the bug.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cordialement.
>>>> Philippe Mouawad.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: [Bug 55167] Bug report bundle
Posted by Milamber <mi...@apache.org>.
Le 01/07/2013 08:46, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
> Hello sebb,
> On my side I would like to integrate it as I think it would be useful, see
> this:
>
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799
>
> We could add a note on how to use it here:
>
> - http://jmeter.apache.org/issues.html
>
>
>
> And it would look professional.
> Eclipse has the Same kind of thing and many other tools have it.
>
> I don't understand why we would refuse it as it is developed and seems to
> me useful.
>
> Milamber, Rainer , any thoughts ?
I've saw the patch. It retrieves jmeter.log file, and *all?* files in
bin directory?
It's seems that introduce some issues around privacy data / anonymous data?
Some warnings must be display to the user or/and some anonymous process
on data must run on these data?
Also, I'm not sure this feature must be directly in the menus of JMeter.
In the mind of user, that would be: Hum, JMeter needs a menu "Bug report
bundle"! therefore that would mean: JMeter is very buggy?
In my opinion, a small program (batch/shell ou java standalone) in
extras directory may be sufficient. It will not very difficult to launch
this program for people using JMeter.
Milamber
>
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 30 June 2013 22:40, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello sebb,
>>> Regarding this, we recently had a case where this feature would have been
>>> useful.
>>> I had around 10 requests to have the information and finally only got 10%
>>> of it.
>>> It was the issue with an OOM when opening help.
>>>
>>> So I think it could be useful to us.
>> Well, there are lots of tools that might be useful to JMeter users;
>> that does not mean they should be added to core JMeter.
>>
>>> Making it an external tool outside of GUI means more complexity to
>>> beginners or people already having other issues with JMeter.
>> It can still be a GUI.
>>
>>> Regards
>>> philippe
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013, wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167
>>>>
>>>> --- Comment #2 from UbikLoadPack support <support@ubikloadpack.com
>> <javascript:;>>
>>>> ---
>>>> it could be but it seems to us it would be better if it is in the gui.
>>>> For example our plugin users sometime report bugs, with this feature
>>>> except for
>>>> a test case and some big notes everything is bundled in the generated
>> zip.
>>>> It's much like generate heap dump.
>>>>
>>>> This kind of feature is frequent in softwares and would be useful even
>> for
>>>> your
>>>> support at Apache JMeter team.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding size it should increase it by few bytes no ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You are receiving this mail because:
>>>> You are the assignee for the bug.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cordialement.
>>> Philippe Mouawad.
>
>
Re: [Bug 55167] Bug report bundle
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 July 2013 08:46, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello sebb,
> On my side I would like to integrate it as I think it would be useful, see
> this:
>
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799
>
> We could add a note on how to use it here:
>
> - http://jmeter.apache.org/issues.html
>
>
>
> And it would look professional.
> Eclipse has the Same kind of thing and many other tools have it.
>
> I don't understand why we would refuse it as it is developed and seems to
> me useful.
I am not refusing it; I just don't think it belongs in the core product.
> Milamber, Rainer , any thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 30 June 2013 22:40, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello sebb,
>> > Regarding this, we recently had a case where this feature would have been
>> > useful.
>> > I had around 10 requests to have the information and finally only got 10%
>> > of it.
>> > It was the issue with an OOM when opening help.
>> >
>> > So I think it could be useful to us.
>>
>> Well, there are lots of tools that might be useful to JMeter users;
>> that does not mean they should be added to core JMeter.
>>
>> > Making it an external tool outside of GUI means more complexity to
>> > beginners or people already having other issues with JMeter.
>>
>> It can still be a GUI.
>>
>> > Regards
>> > philippe
>> >
>> > On Sunday, June 30, 2013, wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167
>> >>
>> >> --- Comment #2 from UbikLoadPack support <support@ubikloadpack.com
>> <javascript:;>>
>> >> ---
>> >> it could be but it seems to us it would be better if it is in the gui.
>> >> For example our plugin users sometime report bugs, with this feature
>> >> except for
>> >> a test case and some big notes everything is bundled in the generated
>> zip.
>> >> It's much like generate heap dump.
>> >>
>> >> This kind of feature is frequent in softwares and would be useful even
>> for
>> >> your
>> >> support at Apache JMeter team.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding size it should increase it by few bytes no ?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> You are receiving this mail because:
>> >> You are the assignee for the bug.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cordialement.
>> > Philippe Mouawad.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: [Bug 55167] Bug report bundle
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hello sebb,
On my side I would like to integrate it as I think it would be useful, see
this:
- https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54648
- https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54799
We could add a note on how to use it here:
- http://jmeter.apache.org/issues.html
And it would look professional.
Eclipse has the Same kind of thing and many other tools have it.
I don't understand why we would refuse it as it is developed and seems to
me useful.
Milamber, Rainer , any thoughts ?
Regards
Philippe
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 June 2013 22:40, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello sebb,
> > Regarding this, we recently had a case where this feature would have been
> > useful.
> > I had around 10 requests to have the information and finally only got 10%
> > of it.
> > It was the issue with an OOM when opening help.
> >
> > So I think it could be useful to us.
>
> Well, there are lots of tools that might be useful to JMeter users;
> that does not mean they should be added to core JMeter.
>
> > Making it an external tool outside of GUI means more complexity to
> > beginners or people already having other issues with JMeter.
>
> It can still be a GUI.
>
> > Regards
> > philippe
> >
> > On Sunday, June 30, 2013, wrote:
> >
> >> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55167
> >>
> >> --- Comment #2 from UbikLoadPack support <support@ubikloadpack.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> ---
> >> it could be but it seems to us it would be better if it is in the gui.
> >> For example our plugin users sometime report bugs, with this feature
> >> except for
> >> a test case and some big notes everything is bundled in the generated
> zip.
> >> It's much like generate heap dump.
> >>
> >> This kind of feature is frequent in softwares and would be useful even
> for
> >> your
> >> support at Apache JMeter team.
> >>
> >> Regarding size it should increase it by few bytes no ?
> >>
> >> --
> >> You are receiving this mail because:
> >> You are the assignee for the bug.
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.