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[jira] Created: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
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Key: COCOON-1680
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
Project: Cocoon
Type: Improvement
Components: - Documentation
Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
Priority: Minor
Attachments: asf20051107.zip
I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
Added access keys on top menu.
Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
Minimal resolution set to 800px.
Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
I have checked this design in:
Windows:
Firefox 1.0.7
Internet Explorer 6.0
Opera 8.5
Linux:
Firefox 1.0.7
Konqueror 3.3.2
Mozilla 1.7.5
Netscape 7.2
Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680?page=comments#action_12356955 ]
Milan Andrejevic commented on COCOON-1680:
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Everything is changeable, but let's see some more comments.
How many (maximum) menu entries are there? Please give structure for top menu(s) and sidebar menu you would like to have.
>I assume they are used for keyboard shortcuts?
Yes you assume right.
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Upayavira (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680?page=comments#action_12357153 ]
Upayavira commented on COCOON-1680:
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Keep the feather, in some form, but _much_ smaller.
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Milan Andrejevic updated COCOON-1680:
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Attachment: screenshot.gif
screenshot
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Zugewiesen: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Jörg Heinicke (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jörg Heinicke reassigned COCOON-1680:
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Assign To: Cocoon Developers Team
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Assignee: Cocoon Developers Team
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Helma van der Linden (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Helma van der Linden commented on COCOON-1680:
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Right, I like the second version better, because it's less cluttered, but Upayavira is right: it still has strong resemblance to the old site.
Do get wild and surprise us. I'd suggest to stick with blue (in whatever shade) to link back to old site. Also, keep the Cocoon logo (the white letters with the dots). I'm not sure if you can remove the apache logo with the feather (and just keep the feather), i.e. if there are rules on that. It would surely free up space.
Keep up the good work.
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Vadim Gritsenko (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Vadim Gritsenko commented on COCOON-1680:
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IIRC ASF has newer version of the feather - the one which was used on AC2004 hackaton tshirts - I think it should be better then current one. Probably PRC should have it...
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Milan Andrejevic updated COCOON-1680:
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Attachment: asf20051108.zip
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> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Helma van der Linden (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680?page=comments#action_12356951 ]
Helma van der Linden commented on COCOON-1680:
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Thanks for the work done, it really looks much more modern.
I like the general layout and the simplicity of the menu and main content window.
I noticed a kind of top level menu in the bar at the top. I find this very cluttered, i.e. too many entries. Maybe you could go one level up for that or reduce it to:
- about Cocoon (about us, status, and other info on downloads, svn access, mailing list, links etc)
- user guide (narrative info about Cocoon, i.e. explanations of concepts, beginners' info etc)
- reference guide (more in-depth info about various aspects of Cocoon)
- apidocs
and the two "Cocoon/ASF" links at the right. I do like this: simple and clear. Although you might change ASF to "Apache" since not every one is familiar with the meaning of ASF.
I noticed lines above certain letters of the links. I assume they are used for keyboard shortcuts? If so, the idea is fabulous, but I would suggest to move the line below the letter or change the color of the letter. Both are more compatible with user expectations.
I like it that the search bar is less prominent but as a whole I find the top block very cluttered. Is it possible to reduce the left image with the feather?
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Milan Andrejevic commented on COCOON-1680:
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I made some changes according to your suggestions. At the first the aim was to make new skin for http://forrest.zones.apache.org/ft/build/cocoon-docs/2.1/index.html, but I realize that this could be universal skin or all document base pages regarding Cocoon, of course if you like it.
You can easily exclude sub navigation if you don't need it by removing
<p class="sub">...</p>
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Closed: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon
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Posted by "Helma van der Linden (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Helma van der Linden closed COCOON-1680.
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Resolution: Won't Fix
There is another redesign (COCOON-2043) implemented.
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Assignee: Cocoon Developers Team
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Upayavira (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Upayavira commented on COCOON-1680:
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Personally, I'd say "be more bold". What you're designing still feels like the old site. I'd like to see our site looking fresh, new, modern, but still connected to the 'Cocoon' brand, with the logo, maybe with colours, etc.
So, be wild. Then we'll let this community restrain you. But if you start restrained, I'm scared we'll end up with something boring :-(
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Milan Andrejevic updated COCOON-1680:
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> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
Posted by "Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Milan Andrejevic commented on COCOON-1680:
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Where can I find ASF logo, new version of the feather (IIRC ASF) in vector format, or large raster format?
This would help a lot.
> New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: COCOON-1680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
> Project: Cocoon
> Type: Improvement
> Components: - Documentation
> Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif
>
> I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html and screen css. I understand you need to "modernize" site (see Upayavira comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
> There are two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie "_asfstyle" for 30 days.
> Added access keys on top menu.
> Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
> Minimal resolution set to 800px.
> Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you can find all picture slices.
> I have checked this design in:
> Windows:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Internet Explorer 6.0
> Opera 8.5
> Linux:
> Firefox 1.0.7
> Konqueror 3.3.2
> Mozilla 1.7.5
> Netscape 7.2
> Lynx
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