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Posted to dev@onami.apache.org by Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org> on 2013/01/08 11:26:43 UTC
[discuss] Testing
Hey there guys,
What do you think about unit testing?
To me, creating an Injector in a Test is not a unit test perse, and I use
to rely on maven-failsafe-plugin and use the suffix IT (Integration Test)
instead. Also, they use to be more slow than a simple test with just mocks.
For those who don't know, this is the default behavior with
maven-failsafe-plugin. The IT test run when executing mvn verify, instead
of regular mvn test
What do you think about it? I'd love to know ;D
Cheers,
jordi
Re: [discuss] Testing
Posted by Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org>.
I guess we can keep it simple for the moment, and if in the future we need
some "testing logic" we can reopen this debate
thanks for your feedback!
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Simone Tripodi
<si...@apache.org>wrote:
> even if there are few components, such as onami-configuration and
> onami-lifecycle, that add extensions to Guice, they don't integrate
> with 3rd parties...
>
> not sure, but maybe moving tests that test integrations, would worth
> be moved in ITs...
>
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org> wrote:
> > You're right, we're testing *integrations* between Guice and other cool
> > stuff!
> >
> > Then, all my doubts are now gone, thanks!
> >
> > jordi
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simone Tripodi <simonetripodi@apache.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jordi,
> >>
> >> I got what you mean, at the end of the day what we are really testing,
> >> in junit tests, are _integrations_ between guice and 3rd part
> >> components.
> >>
> >> I'd keep tests anyway where they are, since ITs usually follow a quiet
> >> different approach of the one adopted - you maybe know much more, do
> >> you see any side effect at the current situation?
> >>
> >> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> >> -Simo
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> >> http://www.99soft.org/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org> wrote:
> >> > Well yeah, that's what I use to do, but I'm not sure of other ppl
> >> opinion.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe right now it's not worth it 'cos the build doesn't take much
> time.
> >> >
> >> > WDYT?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Simone Tripodi <
> >> simonetripodi@apache.org>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hola Jordi,
> >> >>
> >> >> maybe I didn't get you - are you proposing to move tests under ITs?
> >> >>
> >> >> TIA!
> >> >> -Simo
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> >> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> >> >> http://www.99soft.org/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> > maven-failsafe-plugin and
> >> >>
> >>
>
Re: [discuss] Testing
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
even if there are few components, such as onami-configuration and
onami-lifecycle, that add extensions to Guice, they don't integrate
with 3rd parties...
not sure, but maybe moving tests that test integrations, would worth
be moved in ITs...
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org> wrote:
> You're right, we're testing *integrations* between Guice and other cool
> stuff!
>
> Then, all my doubts are now gone, thanks!
>
> jordi
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> Hi Jordi,
>>
>> I got what you mean, at the end of the day what we are really testing,
>> in junit tests, are _integrations_ between guice and 3rd part
>> components.
>>
>> I'd keep tests anyway where they are, since ITs usually follow a quiet
>> different approach of the one adopted - you maybe know much more, do
>> you see any side effect at the current situation?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
>> -Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org> wrote:
>> > Well yeah, that's what I use to do, but I'm not sure of other ppl
>> opinion.
>> >
>> > Maybe right now it's not worth it 'cos the build doesn't take much time.
>> >
>> > WDYT?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Simone Tripodi <
>> simonetripodi@apache.org>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hola Jordi,
>> >>
>> >> maybe I didn't get you - are you proposing to move tests under ITs?
>> >>
>> >> TIA!
>> >> -Simo
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> >> http://www.99soft.org/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> > maven-failsafe-plugin and
>> >>
>>
Re: [discuss] Testing
Posted by Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org>.
You're right, we're testing *integrations* between Guice and other cool
stuff!
Then, all my doubts are now gone, thanks!
jordi
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:
> Hi Jordi,
>
> I got what you mean, at the end of the day what we are really testing,
> in junit tests, are _integrations_ between guice and 3rd part
> components.
>
> I'd keep tests anyway where they are, since ITs usually follow a quiet
> different approach of the one adopted - you maybe know much more, do
> you see any side effect at the current situation?
>
> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org> wrote:
> > Well yeah, that's what I use to do, but I'm not sure of other ppl
> opinion.
> >
> > Maybe right now it's not worth it 'cos the build doesn't take much time.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Simone Tripodi <
> simonetripodi@apache.org>wrote:
> >
> >> Hola Jordi,
> >>
> >> maybe I didn't get you - are you proposing to move tests under ITs?
> >>
> >> TIA!
> >> -Simo
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> >> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> >> http://www.99soft.org/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > maven-failsafe-plugin and
> >>
>
Re: [discuss] Testing
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Jordi,
I got what you mean, at the end of the day what we are really testing,
in junit tests, are _integrations_ between guice and 3rd part
components.
I'd keep tests anyway where they are, since ITs usually follow a quiet
different approach of the one adopted - you maybe know much more, do
you see any side effect at the current situation?
Many thanks in advance, all the best!
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org> wrote:
> Well yeah, that's what I use to do, but I'm not sure of other ppl opinion.
>
> Maybe right now it's not worth it 'cos the build doesn't take much time.
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> Hola Jordi,
>>
>> maybe I didn't get you - are you proposing to move tests under ITs?
>>
>> TIA!
>> -Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > maven-failsafe-plugin and
>>
Re: [discuss] Testing
Posted by Jordi Gerona <jo...@donky.org>.
Well yeah, that's what I use to do, but I'm not sure of other ppl opinion.
Maybe right now it's not worth it 'cos the build doesn't take much time.
WDYT?
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:
> Hola Jordi,
>
> maybe I didn't get you - are you proposing to move tests under ITs?
>
> TIA!
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > maven-failsafe-plugin and
>
Re: [discuss] Testing
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hola Jordi,
maybe I didn't get you - are you proposing to move tests under ITs?
TIA!
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gerona <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> maven-failsafe-plugin and