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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> on 2006/11/03 04:24:58 UTC
website "ui updates" ?
An utterly useless observation I know, but are you guys "trying" to make the
site look worse on purpose?
Compare: http://maven.apache.org
to
Duplicate of (original maven theme): http://tapestry.apache.org
Just thought I'd say something cause it was so noticeable..
--
Jesse Kuhnert
Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer
Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
Re: website "ui updates" ?
Posted by Vincent Siveton <vi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Brett,
Good stuff :o)
Some general comments:
- IMHO, the array "Get Maven 2.0.4" on the front page is too squeeze
- the issue tracking page MPA is not really useful from an user point of view
- CI page needs to be reviewed
- I dont like "Index (category)" in the doc but I have no suggestion ;)
Cheers,
Vincent
2006/11/3, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>:
> Ok, I'm done. Sorry to be impatient, but I felt like I had unfinished
> business after creating that branch, and it is a Friday afternoon :)
>
> So, what I've done:
> - rolled back the CSS/site.vm changes. My suggestions for moving them
> both forward again are in the commit log (there's good stuff in
> there, especially the javascript menu expansion, but I think we need
> to be a bit more careful with the CSS given the backlash).
> - merged my changes from the branch. Eric and I were converging on
> fair similar concepts for the navigation so I've merged them. Feel
> free to discuss moving them around some more.
> - applied my changes to the front page. I think this part is a vast
> improvement
> - put some very basic links into the 'documentation centres'. This
> needs more work in terms of trails to guide people through scenarios,
> and cookbooks.
> - deployed the site.
>
> What I have left to do:
> - I have a big load of notes on stuff I wanted to do/feedback in the
> dev@ threads that were still to be done. I'll go through them in the
> near future and get them into JIRA. There are some other notes in the
> "docs-required" section of the site. Ideally, between JIRA and the
> wiki, we could have all the brainstorming and stuff to do so people
> could jump in more easily.
>
> I think the structure we have now is pretty good and conducive to
> those with a doc focus being able to add docs in a way that they can
> be seen. The next key thing will be assembling the cookbooks so that
> wiki content can be pulled in easily and so people can comment/edit
> the site without submitting patches (keeping the site basically for
> the structure since wikis suck for that).
>
> I think we still need to work on the visuals, particularly in the
> middle of the page to make those key progressions more obvious.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> - Brett
>
> On 03/11/2006, at 3:02 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > Time to roll back the recent CSS changes. I'll look into it shortly.
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > On 03/11/2006, at 2:24 PM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> >
> >> An utterly useless observation I know, but are you guys "trying"
> >> to make the
> >> site look worse on purpose?
> >>
> >> Compare: http://maven.apache.org
> >>
> >> to
> >>
> >> Duplicate of (original maven theme): http://tapestry.apache.org
> >>
> >> Just thought I'd say something cause it was so noticeable..
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jesse Kuhnert
> >> Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer
> >>
> >> Open source based consulting work centered around
> >> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
> >
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Re: website "ui updates" ?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 04/11/2006, at 7:11 AM, Eric Redmond wrote:
> The VM changes (which are just the menu expansion) are not related
> to the
> CSS.
Cool, for some reason I was having troubles getting them working, and
I'd made some more recent fixes to the doxia-site-renderer vm, but
they should be easy to roll back into that code now.
>
> - merged my changes from the branch. Eric and I were converging on
>> fair similar concepts for the navigation so I've merged them. Feel
>> free to discuss moving them around some more.
>
>
> I like the menu. Sooo much easier to navigate. I like the "Maven
> Projects"
> links. But I still prefer to push the "about" and "download" closer
> to the
> end. I still like ant's menu order, from a high level:
> http://ant.apache.org/
Yes, I agree, thinking it through. We have the download and 'about/
what it is/why use it' at the top of the main page, so best to get
the important navigation to the top.
>
> Centre, eh? How Oxford :)
Oh, right :) I'll search and replace...
Thanks!
- Brett
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Re: website "ui updates" ?
Posted by Eric Redmond <er...@gmail.com>.
OK, OK, sheesh. I know when I've been licked.
On 11/3/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm done. Sorry to be impatient, but I felt like I had unfinished
> business after creating that branch, and it is a Friday afternoon :)
>
> So, what I've done:
> - rolled back the CSS/site.vm changes. My suggestions for moving them
> both forward again are in the commit log (there's good stuff in
> there, especially the javascript menu expansion, but I think we need
> to be a bit more careful with the CSS given the backlash).
The VM changes (which are just the menu expansion) are not related to the
CSS.
- merged my changes from the branch. Eric and I were converging on
> fair similar concepts for the navigation so I've merged them. Feel
> free to discuss moving them around some more.
I like the menu. Sooo much easier to navigate. I like the "Maven Projects"
links. But I still prefer to push the "about" and "download" closer to the
end. I still like ant's menu order, from a high level:
http://ant.apache.org/
- applied my changes to the front page. I think this part is a vast
> improvement
> - put some very basic links into the 'documentation centres'. This
> needs more work in terms of trails to guide people through scenarios,
> and cookbooks.
Centre, eh? How Oxford :)
- deployed the site.
>
> What I have left to do:
> - I have a big load of notes on stuff I wanted to do/feedback in the
> dev@ threads that were still to be done. I'll go through them in the
> near future and get them into JIRA. There are some other notes in the
> "docs-required" section of the site. Ideally, between JIRA and the
> wiki, we could have all the brainstorming and stuff to do so people
> could jump in more easily.
>
> I think the structure we have now is pretty good and conducive to
> those with a doc focus being able to add docs in a way that they can
> be seen. The next key thing will be assembling the cookbooks so that
> wiki content can be pulled in easily and so people can comment/edit
> the site without submitting patches (keeping the site basically for
> the structure since wikis suck for that).
>
> I think we still need to work on the visuals, particularly in the
> middle of the page to make those key progressions more obvious.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> - Brett
>
--
Eric Redmond
http://codehaus.org/~eredmond
Re: website "ui updates" ?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Ok, I'm done. Sorry to be impatient, but I felt like I had unfinished
business after creating that branch, and it is a Friday afternoon :)
So, what I've done:
- rolled back the CSS/site.vm changes. My suggestions for moving them
both forward again are in the commit log (there's good stuff in
there, especially the javascript menu expansion, but I think we need
to be a bit more careful with the CSS given the backlash).
- merged my changes from the branch. Eric and I were converging on
fair similar concepts for the navigation so I've merged them. Feel
free to discuss moving them around some more.
- applied my changes to the front page. I think this part is a vast
improvement
- put some very basic links into the 'documentation centres'. This
needs more work in terms of trails to guide people through scenarios,
and cookbooks.
- deployed the site.
What I have left to do:
- I have a big load of notes on stuff I wanted to do/feedback in the
dev@ threads that were still to be done. I'll go through them in the
near future and get them into JIRA. There are some other notes in the
"docs-required" section of the site. Ideally, between JIRA and the
wiki, we could have all the brainstorming and stuff to do so people
could jump in more easily.
I think the structure we have now is pretty good and conducive to
those with a doc focus being able to add docs in a way that they can
be seen. The next key thing will be assembling the cookbooks so that
wiki content can be pulled in easily and so people can comment/edit
the site without submitting patches (keeping the site basically for
the structure since wikis suck for that).
I think we still need to work on the visuals, particularly in the
middle of the page to make those key progressions more obvious.
Thoughts?
- Brett
On 03/11/2006, at 3:02 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
> Time to roll back the recent CSS changes. I'll look into it shortly.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 03/11/2006, at 2:24 PM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
>
>> An utterly useless observation I know, but are you guys "trying"
>> to make the
>> site look worse on purpose?
>>
>> Compare: http://maven.apache.org
>>
>> to
>>
>> Duplicate of (original maven theme): http://tapestry.apache.org
>>
>> Just thought I'd say something cause it was so noticeable..
>>
>> --
>> Jesse Kuhnert
>> Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer
>>
>> Open source based consulting work centered around
>> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
>
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Re: website "ui updates" ?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Time to roll back the recent CSS changes. I'll look into it shortly.
- Brett
On 03/11/2006, at 2:24 PM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> An utterly useless observation I know, but are you guys "trying" to
> make the
> site look worse on purpose?
>
> Compare: http://maven.apache.org
>
> to
>
> Duplicate of (original maven theme): http://tapestry.apache.org
>
> Just thought I'd say something cause it was so noticeable..
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tapestry/Dojo/(and a dash of TestNG), team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
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