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Posted to users@jena.apache.org by Matt Whitby <ma...@gmail.com> on 2021/08/19 19:30:05 UTC
Ontology
This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
Thanks,
Matt.
Re: Ontology
Posted by Phil Shields <sh...@yahoo.com.au.INVALID>.
Hi I constructed various web applications using ontologies to do stuff. Philip Shields
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On Friday, 20 August 2021, 01:49:00 pm AEST, Luis Enrique Ramos García <lu...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
Hi,
I recommend the book Ontology Engineering by Gomez Perez, which is good to
begin with.
Luis
El jue, 19 ago 2021 a las 21:30, Matt Whitby (<ma...@gmail.com>)
escribió:
> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>
Re: Ontology
Posted by Luis Enrique Ramos García <lu...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
I recommend the book Ontology Engineering by Gomez Perez, which is good to
begin with.
Luis
El jue, 19 ago 2021 a las 21:30, Matt Whitby (<ma...@gmail.com>)
escribió:
> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>
Re: Ontology
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
Combining with shapes (SHACL or ShEx) creates something operational, for
validation of data, especially when doing data integration or relating
patterns in the data to concepts.
(they overlap with RDFS on domain and range; RDFS is for the
subclass/subproperty).
They seem to be more approachable for a lot of people than OWL.
Andy
On 20/08/2021 03:44, Paul Tyson wrote:
> Yes, off-topic, better forums would be ontolog-forum
> (http://ontologforum.org/info/) and semantic-web@w3.org.
>
> But, briefly: I have yet to see a good use case that would justify the
> expense and trouble of making a formal ontology. The most you will
> probably ever need is an RDFS schema, and that mainly for your own
> understanding, communication, and documentation.
>
> Regards.
>
> --Paul
>
> On 8/19/21 2:30 PM, Matt Whitby wrote:
>> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people
>> to ask
>> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put
>> together
>> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
>> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt.
>>
Re: Ontology
Posted by Paul Tyson <ph...@sbcglobal.net>.
Yes, off-topic, better forums would be ontolog-forum
(http://ontologforum.org/info/) and semantic-web@w3.org.
But, briefly: I have yet to see a good use case that would justify the
expense and trouble of making a formal ontology. The most you will
probably ever need is an RDFS schema, and that mainly for your own
understanding, communication, and documentation.
Regards.
--Paul
On 8/19/21 2:30 PM, Matt Whitby wrote:
> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>
Re: Ontology
Posted by Adrian Walker <ad...@gmail.com>.
Matt,
This may be useful. The Executable English system is online at the site
below.
The basic idea is to capture knowledge in an English form that can also be
run as a program. When necessary, SQL is automatically generated and run
"under the covers". Then, the results are explained in English, at the
human level.
Here's a summary slide:
www.executable-english.com/executable_english_in_a_nutshell.pdf
and a short paper
https://www.executable-english.com/Analytics,_Executable_English,_Data,_and_Explanations.pdf
Thanks for comments, -- Adrian
Adrian Walker
Executable English LLC
San Jose, CA, USA
860 830 2085
https://www.executable-english.com
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:30 PM Matt Whitby <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>
Re: Ontology
Posted by graham <gr...@orangedogsoftware.com>.
Hi Matt
What kind of ontology are you envisaging? RDFS? OWL-DL? Natural
Language? It can make a difference.
Also what is the use case for the ontology? Documentary? Used to query?
thanks
graham
On 20/08/21 7:30 am, Matt Whitby wrote:
> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>
--
Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.
Re: Ontology
Posted by Dave Jordan <da...@bellsouth.net>.
Matt,
I have not seen a copy of this recently published third edition of *Semantic
Web for the Working Ontologist*, but if you are starting with existing
datasets and planning to convert them into a semantic web model, you will
find the following book valuable. I'd be interested in hearing what others
think about this book, in particular anyone who has read the third edition.
https://www.amazon.com/Semantic-Web-Working-Ontologist-Effective/dp/1450376142/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Working+Ontologist&qid=1629405938&sr=8-1
David Jordan
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Matt Whitby <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This will be off-topic but I believe you're the best group of people to ask
> this to. We need to look at our various datasets and start to put together
> an ontology. Does anyone have any suggestions on books to read, videos to
> watch, or any general advice or pitfalls to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>