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Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?

Has anyone used BC4J and Struts...?
What is the reliability factor ?

What are the issues ?
would you recommend us to go 4 it..?


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Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?

Posted by Steve Muench <St...@oracle.com>.
| The only issue we have had is the lack of documentation on using the two 
| great technologies together. Monitoring this user-list and the jdeveloper 
| (bc4j) forum at otn.oracle.com has helped us out a lot.

This fully-documented Struts/BC4J demo called the "BC4J Toy Store"
should help out significantly in this department.

http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/products/jdev/bc4jtoystore/content.html

The accompanying whitepaper called "Building a Web Store with Struts and BC4J"
dissects the working demo and explains all of the moving parts and how they work.

__________________________________________________________________
Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Java/XML Evangelist, Author
Building a Web Store with Struts and BC4J (BC4J Toy Store Demo)
http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/products/jdev/bc4jtoystore/content.html
Simplify J2EE Development with the Oracle BC4J Framework
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
Dive into BC4J at http://radio.weblogs.com/0118231/
Building Oracle XML Apps, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark McBride" <ma...@llnl.gov>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 22:59
Subject: Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?


| At 01:23 PM 4/18/2003 +0530, you wrote:
| >Has anyone used BC4J and Struts...?
| 
| Yes!
| 
| >What is the reliability factor ?
| 
| You probably want to be more specific with respect to reliability. Can't 
| think of any issues but you might mean something else.
| 
| 
| >What are the issues ?
| 
| The only issue we have had is the lack of documentation on using the two 
| great technologies together. Monitoring this user-list and the jdeveloper 
| (bc4j) forum at otn.oracle.com has helped us out a lot.
| 
| >would you recommend us to go 4 it..?
| 
| Can't really give you a blanket answer here. A downside of bc4j is that 
| realistically you must use jdeveloper to create your bc4j components 
| =(  Not a terrible tool but I cringe when I'm forced to buy into one. A 
| upside is that bc4j is closer to sql then ejbql (among other features of 
| bc4j). It appears that there are several other alternatives to ejb such as 
| hibernate and castor. I haven't used either so I'm not sure of the 
| comparison with bc4j to those technologies. One of the nice things about 
| bc4j is that in the jdev distribution they include classes that extend the 
| struts extension points (RequestProcessor,ActionMapping, etc.) to provide 
| awesome integration with struts. We're an oracle shop to so I'm not sure of 
| the issues with using bc4j with other databases. I've read that it works 
| with others but I can't speak from experience.
| 
| Hope this helps!
| 
| -Mark
| 
| 
| 
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Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?

Posted by Vic Cekvenich <vc...@basebeans.com>.
Consider looking at db layer DAO from ibatis.com.

.V

Puneet Agarwal wrote:
> Thank for the nice reply,
> We now have three options, shall take the decision today...
> BC4J actually look promising...!
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark McBride" <ma...@llnl.gov>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>At 01:23 PM 4/18/2003 +0530, you wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone used BC4J and Struts...?
>>
>>Yes!
>>
>>
>>>What is the reliability factor ?
>>
>>You probably want to be more specific with respect to reliability. Can't
>>think of any issues but you might mean something else.
>>
>>
>>
>>>What are the issues ?
>>
>>The only issue we have had is the lack of documentation on using the two
>>great technologies together. Monitoring this user-list and the jdeveloper
>>(bc4j) forum at otn.oracle.com has helped us out a lot.
>>
>>
>>>would you recommend us to go 4 it..?
>>
>>Can't really give you a blanket answer here. A downside of bc4j is that
>>realistically you must use jdeveloper to create your bc4j components
>>=(  Not a terrible tool but I cringe when I'm forced to buy into one. A
>>upside is that bc4j is closer to sql then ejbql (among other features of
>>bc4j). It appears that there are several other alternatives to ejb such as
>>hibernate and castor. I haven't used either so I'm not sure of the
>>comparison with bc4j to those technologies. One of the nice things about
>>bc4j is that in the jdev distribution they include classes that extend the
>>struts extension points (RequestProcessor,ActionMapping, etc.) to provide
>>awesome integration with struts. We're an oracle shop to so I'm not sure
> 
> of
> 
>>the issues with using bc4j with other databases. I've read that it works
>>with others but I can't speak from experience.
>>
>>Hope this helps!
>>
>>-Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?

Posted by Puneet Agarwal <pu...@delhi.tcs.co.in>.
Thank for the nice reply,
We now have three options, shall take the decision today...
BC4J actually look promising...!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark McBride" <ma...@llnl.gov>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?


>
>
> At 01:23 PM 4/18/2003 +0530, you wrote:
> >Has anyone used BC4J and Struts...?
>
> Yes!
>
> >What is the reliability factor ?
>
> You probably want to be more specific with respect to reliability. Can't
> think of any issues but you might mean something else.
>
>
> >What are the issues ?
>
> The only issue we have had is the lack of documentation on using the two
> great technologies together. Monitoring this user-list and the jdeveloper
> (bc4j) forum at otn.oracle.com has helped us out a lot.
>
> >would you recommend us to go 4 it..?
>
> Can't really give you a blanket answer here. A downside of bc4j is that
> realistically you must use jdeveloper to create your bc4j components
> =(  Not a terrible tool but I cringe when I'm forced to buy into one. A
> upside is that bc4j is closer to sql then ejbql (among other features of
> bc4j). It appears that there are several other alternatives to ejb such as
> hibernate and castor. I haven't used either so I'm not sure of the
> comparison with bc4j to those technologies. One of the nice things about
> bc4j is that in the jdev distribution they include classes that extend the
> struts extension points (RequestProcessor,ActionMapping, etc.) to provide
> awesome integration with struts. We're an oracle shop to so I'm not sure
of
> the issues with using bc4j with other databases. I've read that it works
> with others but I can't speak from experience.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
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Re: Struts - BC4J - Anyone ?

Posted by Mark McBride <ma...@llnl.gov>.
At 01:23 PM 4/18/2003 +0530, you wrote:
>Has anyone used BC4J and Struts...?

Yes!

>What is the reliability factor ?

You probably want to be more specific with respect to reliability. Can't 
think of any issues but you might mean something else.


>What are the issues ?

The only issue we have had is the lack of documentation on using the two 
great technologies together. Monitoring this user-list and the jdeveloper 
(bc4j) forum at otn.oracle.com has helped us out a lot.

>would you recommend us to go 4 it..?

Can't really give you a blanket answer here. A downside of bc4j is that 
realistically you must use jdeveloper to create your bc4j components 
=(  Not a terrible tool but I cringe when I'm forced to buy into one. A 
upside is that bc4j is closer to sql then ejbql (among other features of 
bc4j). It appears that there are several other alternatives to ejb such as 
hibernate and castor. I haven't used either so I'm not sure of the 
comparison with bc4j to those technologies. One of the nice things about 
bc4j is that in the jdev distribution they include classes that extend the 
struts extension points (RequestProcessor,ActionMapping, etc.) to provide 
awesome integration with struts. We're an oracle shop to so I'm not sure of 
the issues with using bc4j with other databases. I've read that it works 
with others but I can't speak from experience.

Hope this helps!

-Mark



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