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Posted to gui-dev@apache.org by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> on 2000/02/15 11:26:20 UTC
new home for @apache.org lists.
Apologies in advance for any duplicates.... and please, if you choose to
respond to this message, do *not* respond to all, just to me.
The mail for addresses @apache.org has been moved to a new machine, and
with it to a new mailing list manager, ezmlm (ta ta majordumbo). To
get the list of administrative commands available, please send an email to
list-help@apache.org
where "list" is the list you're subscribed to.
Also, the lists "new-httpd", "apache-cvs", "modperl-cvs" now have digests.
The "modperl-digest" list is intact.
Let me know if you see any problems.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Eli Marmor <ma...@elmar.co.il>.
An administrative message. I apologize if it is not the right place
to do it.
There is a small bug in the new ezmlm configuration:
Error messages (such as "michael_quinn: 550
<mi...@localhost>... User unknown") are sent to the "Sender:"
address instead of the "From:" address. Because of e-mail
masquerading, this address is not always correct. The right address
to send such messages to, is "Reply-To:" when available, otherwise -
"From:". The "Sender:" should be ignored and not used.
The new wrong behavior happens only since the upgrade.
(IMHO, such errors should not be sent at all, even to the *real*
sender, but at least don't send them to the wrong addresses).
--
Eli Marmor
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by "James H. Cloos Jr." <cl...@jhcloos.com>.
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> writes:
Brian> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The
Brian> "Mailing-List" header is guaranteed to be there and correspond
Brian> to the exact list you're interested in,
Actualy, I find that this procmail recipe is best:
########################################
# New Apache Lists
:0:
* ^^From [^@]+-return[^@]*@apache\.org
* ^list-post: <mailto:\/[^>]+
$MATCH/.
########################################
Make the end of the regexp mailto:\/[^@]+
to leave off the @apache.org, of course.
(I like to use the full posting address so I can remember how to post
to each list....)
-JimC
--
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<cl...@jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6
Like this email? Click here: <URL:http://jhcloos.com/twocentsworth>
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by "James H. Cloos Jr." <cl...@jhcloos.com>.
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> writes:
Brian> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The
Brian> "Mailing-List" header is guaranteed to be there and correspond
Brian> to the exact list you're interested in,
Actualy, I find that this procmail recipe is best:
########################################
# New Apache Lists
:0:
* ^^From [^@]+-return[^@]*@apache\.org
* ^list-post: <mailto:\/[^>]+
$MATCH/.
########################################
Make the end of the regexp mailto:\/[^@]+
to leave off the @apache.org, of course.
(I like to use the full posting address so I can remember how to post
to each list....)
-JimC
--
James H. Cloos, Jr. <URL:http://jhcloos.com/public_key> 1024D/ED7DAEA6
<cl...@jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6
Like this email? Click here: <URL:http://jhcloos.com/twocentsworth>
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by "James H. Cloos Jr." <cl...@jhcloos.com>.
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> writes:
Brian> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The
Brian> "Mailing-List" header is guaranteed to be there and correspond
Brian> to the exact list you're interested in,
Actualy, I find that this procmail recipe is best:
########################################
# New Apache Lists
:0:
* ^^From [^@]+-return[^@]*@apache\.org
* ^list-post: <mailto:\/[^>]+
$MATCH/.
########################################
Make the end of the regexp mailto:\/[^@]+
to leave off the @apache.org, of course.
(I like to use the full posting address so I can remember how to post
to each list....)
-JimC
--
James H. Cloos, Jr. <URL:http://jhcloos.com/public_key> 1024D/ED7DAEA6
<cl...@jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6
Like this email? Click here: <URL:http://jhcloos.com/twocentsworth>
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by "James H. Cloos Jr." <cl...@jhcloos.com>.
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> writes:
Brian> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The
Brian> "Mailing-List" header is guaranteed to be there and correspond
Brian> to the exact list you're interested in,
Actualy, I find that this procmail recipe is best:
########################################
# New Apache Lists
:0:
* ^^From [^@]+-return[^@]*@apache\.org
* ^list-post: <mailto:\/[^>]+
$MATCH/.
########################################
Make the end of the regexp mailto:\/[^@]+
to leave off the @apache.org, of course.
(I like to use the full posting address so I can remember how to post
to each list....)
-JimC
--
James H. Cloos, Jr. <URL:http://jhcloos.com/public_key> 1024D/ED7DAEA6
<cl...@jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6
Like this email? Click here: <URL:http://jhcloos.com/twocentsworth>
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by "James H. Cloos Jr." <cl...@jhcloos.com>.
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> writes:
Brian> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The
Brian> "Mailing-List" header is guaranteed to be there and correspond
Brian> to the exact list you're interested in,
Actualy, I find that this procmail recipe is best:
########################################
# New Apache Lists
:0:
* ^^From [^@]+-return[^@]*@apache\.org
* ^list-post: <mailto:\/[^>]+
$MATCH/.
########################################
Make the end of the regexp mailto:\/[^@]+
to leave off the @apache.org, of course.
(I like to use the full posting address so I can remember how to post
to each list....)
-JimC
--
James H. Cloos, Jr. <URL:http://jhcloos.com/public_key> 1024D/ED7DAEA6
<cl...@jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6
Like this email? Click here: <URL:http://jhcloos.com/twocentsworth>
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by "James H. Cloos Jr." <cl...@jhcloos.com>.
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> writes:
Brian> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The
Brian> "Mailing-List" header is guaranteed to be there and correspond
Brian> to the exact list you're interested in,
Actualy, I find that this procmail recipe is best:
########################################
# New Apache Lists
:0:
* ^^From [^@]+-return[^@]*@apache\.org
* ^list-post: <mailto:\/[^>]+
$MATCH/.
########################################
Make the end of the regexp mailto:\/[^@]+
to leave off the @apache.org, of course.
(I like to use the full posting address so I can remember how to post
to each list....)
-JimC
--
James H. Cloos, Jr. <URL:http://jhcloos.com/public_key> 1024D/ED7DAEA6
<cl...@jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6
Like this email? Click here: <URL:http://jhcloos.com/twocentsworth>
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Greg Stein wrote:
> > I see that the mailing lists are following RFC 2369 (which is the basis
> > for Cloos' procmail recipe). Can we get a tweak to the ezmlm software to
> > insert a List-Id header, per this draft:
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt
> >
> > That would be "the best way" to identify a list for filtering.
>
> Erm, "Mailing-List:" seems to do the same thing. But if you get either
> ezmlm or ezmlm-idx to get it into the next version, it'll find its way
> here eventually.
I haven't seen that one in an RFC or Internet Draft. Is that header
specific to ezmlm, or is it a more common standard?
I'll contact the ezmlm author re: List-Id.
Cheers,
-g
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Greg Stein wrote:
> I see that the mailing lists are following RFC 2369 (which is the basis
> for Cloos' procmail recipe). Can we get a tweak to the ezmlm software to
> insert a List-Id header, per this draft:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt
>
> That would be "the best way" to identify a list for filtering.
Erm, "Mailing-List:" seems to do the same thing. But if you get either
ezmlm or ezmlm-idx to get it into the next version, it'll find its way
here eventually.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
> header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
> interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
> to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
> instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
I see that the mailing lists are following RFC 2369 (which is the basis
for Cloos' procmail recipe). Can we get a tweak to the ezmlm software to
insert a List-Id header, per this draft:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt
That would be "the best way" to identify a list for filtering.
Thx,
-g
p.s. Mailman has adopted that header already... let's see if we can push
some other MLMs into it... :-)
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
> header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
> interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
> to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
> instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
I see that the mailing lists are following RFC 2369 (which is the basis
for Cloos' procmail recipe). Can we get a tweak to the ezmlm software to
insert a List-Id header, per this draft:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt
That would be "the best way" to identify a list for filtering.
Thx,
-g
p.s. Mailman has adopted that header already... let's see if we can push
some other MLMs into it... :-)
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
> header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
> interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
> to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
> instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
I see that the mailing lists are following RFC 2369 (which is the basis
for Cloos' procmail recipe). Can we get a tweak to the ezmlm software to
insert a List-Id header, per this draft:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chandhok-listid-04.txt
That would be "the best way" to identify a list for filtering.
Thx,
-g
p.s. Mailman has adopted that header already... let's see if we can push
some other MLMs into it... :-)
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
Brian
Re: new home for @apache.org lists.
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
Someone asked about what headers to use for filtering. The "Mailing-List"
header is guaranteed to be there and correspond to the exact list you're
interested in, and won't be there on private copies when someone responds
to you directly, cc'ing the list. So I recommend filtering on that
instead of the "Sender:" field as you may have done previously.
Brian