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[RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Hello everybody,
on the subversion users mailing list (and others) I often read about wishes to
have meta-data versioning capabilities in subversion.
Now these questions are often centered around deploying software, which is
exactly what FSVS is about.
So I'd like to note FSVS somewhere on the subversion site, so that people
looking for this functionality see it and don't have to ask. (Yes, I know,
they could google - but if they use the wrong keywords, they probably won't
find anything.)
I've done two patches (see below); noting on links.html is probably no
problem; the controversial point is whether the index page is not a bit too
prominent - but these questions comes up often, so this might not be so wrong
after all.
Regards,
Phil
[[[
New link for FSVS added to links.html.
* links.html
]]]
$ diff -u links.html-orig links.html
--- links.html-orig 2008-04-03 11:13:33.000000000 +0200
+++ links.html 2008-04-03 11:15:40.000000000 +0200
@@ -195,6 +195,12 @@
>http://esvn.umputun.com/</a>
</p></li>
+ <li><p><b>FSVS</b> - fast subversion command line client centered
+ around software deployment<br/>
+ <a href="http://fsvs.tigris.org/"
+ >http://fsvs.tigris.org/</a>
+ </p></li>
+
<li><p><b>JDeveloper</b> - Oracle's free integrated development
environment with end-to-end support for modeling, developing,
debugging, optimizing, and deploying Java applications and Web
[[[
Mention FSVS on the index page.
* index.html
]]]
$ diff -u index.html-orig index.html
--- index.html-orig 2008-04-03 11:04:00.000000000 +0200
+++ index.html 2008-04-03 11:06:32.000000000 +0200
@@ -85,6 +85,10 @@
with any file or directory, and provides a mechanism for
versioning the `execute' permission flag on files.
</p>
+ <p>For a versioning tool that is centered more around software
+ deployment with <strong>automatic</strong> meta-data versioning
+ (like owner, group, modification time) please take a look at
+ <A HREF="http://fsvs.tigris.org/" target=_new>FSVS</a>.</p>
</li>
<li><strong>Commits are truly atomic.</strong>
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Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "Ph. Marek" <ph...@bmlv.gv.at>.
Hello Michael,
On Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Seriously, if you think there's a place in the FAQ that well-suited to
> noting FSVS, and *not* well suited to listing the other hundred
> Subversion front-ends, that's fine -- post another patch.
well, there are some places where it could be fine ...
Here's a small list - just tell me which you'd prefer, and I'll do a patch.
Currently:
Does Subversion support symlinks?
New:
Does Subversion support symlinks and devices?
Symlinks yes, for devices look ...
Currently:
How does Subversion handle binary files?
New:
Another point below "Why doesn't it handle permissions, owner and so on?
Please take a look ..."
Currently:
How do I detect adds, deletes, copies and renames in a working copy after
they've already happened?
New:
Add a reference to FSVS, as that does automatically delete and add files -
and has a way to semi-automatically detect renames and copies (prints a
list, which can be re-piped into fsvs).
I think the easiest point would be the first listed - or adding a completely
new point, as in #2.
Regards,
Phil
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Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "Ph. Marek" <ph...@bmlv.gv.at>.
On Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Ph. Marek wrote:
> > I wanted to write:
> > Hmmm, maybe the FAQ could get another hint, too ...
> > Or is there some better place?
> Purchased AdWords? :-)
Do you have the money?
Well, searching google for "FSVS" already gives it as #1 - but eg. "subversion
software deployment" doesn't.
> Seriously, if you think there's a place in the FAQ that well-suited to
> noting FSVS, and *not* well suited to listing the other hundred Subversion
> front-ends, that's fine -- post another patch.
Thank you.
> But we want to avoid giving
> special billing to anyone to the degree possible.
That's what I meant in the original mail by "prominence" of location :-)
Regards,
Phil
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Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "Ph. Marek" <ph...@bmlv.gv.at>.
On Montag, 7. April 2008, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Ph. Marek wrote:
> > BTW, I took a look at the "deployment category home" on tigris
> > (http://deployment.tigris.org/).
...
> > Is there a better way to get that fixed than to contact each author
> > separately? Could tigris send a mail to all project admins to check their
> > categories?
>
> Possibly. Could you send this suggestion to feedback@tigris.org?
done.
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Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Ph. Marek wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
>> Purchased AdWords? :-)
> BTW, I took a look at the "deployment category home" on tigris
> (http://deployment.tigris.org/).
>
>
> There are things in there that *I* wouldn't put in "deployment" ...
> - autocodegenerator A SQL and code generator that uses plain text files
> - cvsanaly CVS/Subversion repository analyzer
> - cvsanaly-web A web front-end for CvsAnaly
> - dsmath C++ Math Library
> - dxforms Database Forms.
> - essence Frontend to MySQL
> and so on, and so on ...
>
> Is there a better way to get that fixed than to contact each author
> separately? Could tigris send a mail to all project admins to check their
> categories?
Possibly. Could you send this suggestion to feedback@tigris.org?
--
C. Michael Pilato <cm...@collab.net>
CollabNet <> www.collab.net <> Distributed Development On Demand
Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "Ph. Marek" <ph...@bmlv.gv.at>.
On Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Purchased AdWords? :-)
BTW, I took a look at the "deployment category home" on tigris
(http://deployment.tigris.org/).
There are things in there that *I* wouldn't put in "deployment" ...
- autocodegenerator A SQL and code generator that uses plain text files
- cvsanaly CVS/Subversion repository analyzer
- cvsanaly-web A web front-end for CvsAnaly
- dsmath C++ Math Library
- dxforms Database Forms.
- essence Frontend to MySQL
and so on, and so on ...
Is there a better way to get that fixed than to contact each author
separately? Could tigris send a mail to all project admins to check their
categories?
Regards,
Phil
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Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Ph. Marek wrote:
> I wanted to write:
> Hmmm, maybe the FAQ could get another hint, too ...
> Or is there some better place?
Purchased AdWords? :-)
Seriously, if you think there's a place in the FAQ that well-suited to
noting FSVS, and *not* well suited to listing the other hundred Subversion
front-ends, that's fine -- post another patch. But we want to avoid giving
special billing to anyone to the degree possible.
--
C. Michael Pilato <cm...@collab.net>
CollabNet <> www.collab.net <> Distributed Development On Demand
Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "Ph. Marek" <ph...@bmlv.gv.at>.
Hello Michael!
You're too fast, I just wanted to respond to your first mail.
On Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> > Ph. Marek wrote:
> >> I've done two patches (see below); noting on links.html is probably no
> >> problem; the controversial point is whether the index page is not a
> >> bit too prominent - but these questions comes up often, so this might
> >> not be so wrong after all.
> >
> > There's no controversy -- the index.html page is too prominent. :-)
Ok.
> > But I'll happily apply the links.html patch.
>
> r30212.
Thank you!
I wanted to write:
Hmmm, maybe the FAQ could get another hint, too ...
Or is there some better place?
but now that links.html is already done perhaps there's no further action
necessary ...
Regards,
Phil
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Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Ph. Marek wrote:
>> I've done two patches (see below); noting on links.html is probably no
>> problem; the controversial point is whether the index page is not a
>> bit too prominent - but these questions comes up often, so this might
>> not be so wrong after all.
>
> There's no controversy -- the index.html page is too prominent. :-)
>
> But I'll happily apply the links.html patch.
r30212.
--
C. Michael Pilato <cm...@collab.net>
CollabNet <> www.collab.net <> Distributed Development On Demand
Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Noting existence of FSVS
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Ph. Marek wrote:
> I've done two patches (see below); noting on links.html is probably no
> problem; the controversial point is whether the index page is not a bit too
> prominent - but these questions comes up often, so this might not be so wrong
> after all.
There's no controversy -- the index.html page is too prominent. :-)
But I'll happily apply the links.html patch.
--
C. Michael Pilato <cm...@collab.net>
CollabNet <> www.collab.net <> Distributed Development On Demand