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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Kevin White <ke...@bellsouth.net> on 2005/07/09 19:30:31 UTC
Problem using SVN
Hello. New to subversion. Very confusion program -- easy to see why there are ten pages of FAQs. Half a day to try and install/get everything to work, still trying. Confused by the directories and where to put things -- seems like the old DOS3.1, need to make a special c:\SVN directory to make it work. I imported a bunch of files, then tried to import another, and not much happened. Tried to add it from command line, and it accepted the command. It does not show up in the list, but trying to add it again results in a failure - already added.
Yargh. Back to the old CM tool. I was hopeful, too. Maybe next year?.?
-Kevin
Re: Problem using SVN
Posted by Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>.
On Jul 9, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Kevin White wrote:
> Hello. New to subversion. Very confusion program -- easy to see
> why there are ten pages of FAQs. Half a day to try and install/get
> everything to work, still trying. Confused by the directories and
> where to put things -- seems like the old DOS3.1, need to make a
> special c:\SVN directory to make it work. I imported a bunch of
> files, then tried to import another, and not much happened. Tried
> to add it from command line, and it accepted the command. It does
> not show up in the list, but trying to add it again results in a
> failure - already added.
>
> Yargh. Back to the old CM tool. I was hopeful, too. Maybe next
> year?.?
Did you perhaps try reading the documentation? The free online book
at svnbook.red-bean.com? The 'Quick Start' tutorial in chapter 1 of
that book? The "basic concepts" and "tutorial" chapters?
Sorry that you were frustrated. but your mail sounds a lot like
trolling. Lots of vague descriptions of problems...there's no way we
can help you unless you ask specific questions.
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Re: Problem using SVN
Posted by Steve Williams <st...@kromestudios.com>.
Kevin White wrote:
> Is there a way, BTW, to use svn with normal windows paths? I am tiring
> of having to type forward slashes in front of every back slash by now.
I have never had to put a forward slash in front of a backslash and I
use Windows. Maybe you are trying to use the file: access method on a
Windows server? I've never used that access method.
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Re: Problem using SVN
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@xbc.nu>.
Kevin White wrote:
> Thanks -- you are an inspiration. Just rub it in. I spent half a day
> trying to get IIS configured, and I still don't think I can run cgi
> scripts using python. That was the second step of about 20 to get
> trac installed. I tried using a client called RapidSVN, which sucked
> horribly because I had no idea what my URL was supposed to be, and
> every operation I performed I had to re-enter it in, adding forward
> slashes in front of backwards slashes so it would work with Win32. I
> abandoned that for a program called trac, which has not much better
> than bar napkins for documentation for Win32 installation. I finally
> found the note that the default link for TortiseSvn might cause
> trouble, and the mirror worked wonderfully (I should have looked
> closer the first two times).
>
> Is there a way, BTW, to use svn with normal windows paths? I am
> tiring of having to type forward slashes in front of every back slash
> by now.
>
> I am not sure which way I should go. I know I need source control,
> and some way to associate issues with check-ins. Any reporting or
> metrics that we can get on top of that would be awesome.
>
> -Kevin
I must admit, you seem to have managed to do everything exactly wrong.
Let's see if we can set you straight.
For the record, I personally think RapidSVN is a very poor design for a
GUI client. That aside, if you have problems with it, you should ask on
the RapidSVN mailing list.
Trac is not a Subversion client, it's a project management sort of tool
which happens to include a subversino reposuitory browser. Again, if you
have problems with Trac, you should ask the Trac developers for help.
Now, from what you wrote I'm guessing (you've not been very specific)
that you're trying to install a Subversion server and client on Windows
machines. Whatever else you do, the first step is to read the Subversion
book (http://svnbool.red-bean.com/), becaue you certainly won't get far
without understanding Subversion in particular and version control in
general. The book isn't all that long, a first reading skipping the
advanced bits shouldn't take more than an afternoon.
The next thing to do is to download the Windows installer from the
Subversion site (http://subversion.tigris.org). At that point you'll
have to decide how your users will access the repository; reading the
book will help here. If you decide to use Apache HTTPD, you'll have to
download the latest 2.0.x Windows installer from
http://httpd.apache.org, and install that before you install Subversion.
If you'll just use svnserve or local access, you don't need apache.
Install the Subversion server and command line client, and follow the
instructions from the Book for creating a repository and working copies.
That's it.
If the command-line client isn't enough, for you, I suggest TortoiseSVN
for general use. There are also a number of plug-ins for IDEs out there,
e.g., for VS.NET and Eclipse. You'll have to decide what you actually need.
-- Brane
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Re: Problem using SVN
Posted by Kevin White <ke...@bellsouth.net>.
Thanks -- you are an inspiration. Just rub it in. I spent half a day trying to get IIS configured, and I still don't think I can run cgi scripts using python. That was the second step of about 20 to get trac installed. I tried using a client called RapidSVN, which sucked horribly because I had no idea what my URL was supposed to be, and every operation I performed I had to re-enter it in, adding forward slashes in front of backwards slashes so it would work with Win32. I abandoned that for a program called trac, which has not much better than bar napkins for documentation for Win32 installation. I finally found the note that the default link for TortiseSvn might cause trouble, and the mirror worked wonderfully (I should have looked closer the first two times).
Is there a way, BTW, to use svn with normal windows paths? I am tiring of having to type forward slashes in front of every back slash by now.
I am not sure which way I should go. I know I need source control, and some way to associate issues with check-ins. Any reporting or metrics that we can get on top of that would be awesome.
-Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Miha Vitorovic
To: Kevin White
Cc: users@subversion.tigris.org
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Problem using SVN
"Kevin White" <ke...@bellsouth.net> wrote on 09.07.2005 21:30:31:
> Hello. New to subversion. Very confusion program -- easy to see
> why there are ten pages of FAQs. Half a day to try and install/get
> everything to work, still trying. Confused by the directories and
> where to put things -- seems like the old DOS3.1, need to make a
> special c:\SVN directory to make it work. I imported a bunch of
> files, then tried to import another, and not much happened. Tried
> to add it from command line, and it accepted the command. It does
> not show up in the list, but trying to add it again results in a
> failure - already added.
>
> Yargh. Back to the old CM tool. I was hopeful, too. Maybe next year?.?
Well, without ever having used any sort of Version Control System, it took me one work day (a few hours actually) to look at the Subversion site, find an Eclipse client for it (Subclipse), then one day to read through the SVN on-line book (I skipped chapter 4, because it deals with command line examples), and then one day to install WinXP, Subversion, Apache, configure everything including authentication & authorization, create and import test repository and start testing with subclipse. We started using Subversion, I guess, two days later in production environment (the backup was running by then also), after we played with the test repository for a little while.
All in all it was such a painless transition one can only hope for. But I confess I did RTFM before attempting anything :)
Cheers,
---
Miha Vitorovic
Inženir v tehničnem področju
Customer Support Engineer
NIL Data Communications, Tivolska cesta 48, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
Phone +386 1 4746 500 Fax +386 1 4746 501 http://www.NIL.si
Re: Problem using SVN
Posted by Miha Vitorovic <mv...@nil.si>.
"Kevin White" <ke...@bellsouth.net> wrote on 09.07.2005 21:30:31:
> Hello. New to subversion. Very confusion program -- easy to see
> why there are ten pages of FAQs. Half a day to try and install/get
> everything to work, still trying. Confused by the directories and
> where to put things -- seems like the old DOS3.1, need to make a
> special c:\SVN directory to make it work. I imported a bunch of
> files, then tried to import another, and not much happened. Tried
> to add it from command line, and it accepted the command. It does
> not show up in the list, but trying to add it again results in a
> failure - already added.
>
> Yargh. Back to the old CM tool. I was hopeful, too. Maybe next
year?.?
Well, without ever having used any sort of Version Control System, it took
me one work day (a few hours actually) to look at the Subversion site,
find an Eclipse client for it (Subclipse), then one day to read through
the SVN on-line book (I skipped chapter 4, because it deals with command
line examples), and then one day to install WinXP, Subversion, Apache,
configure everything including authentication & authorization, create and
import test repository and start testing with subclipse. We started using
Subversion, I guess, two days later in production environment (the backup
was running by then also), after we played with the test repository for a
little while.
All in all it was such a painless transition one can only hope for. But I
confess I did RTFM before attempting anything :)
Cheers,
---
Miha Vitorovic
Inženir v tehničnem področju
Customer Support Engineer
NIL Data Communications, Tivolska cesta 48, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
Phone +386 1 4746 500 Fax +386 1 4746 501 http://www.NIL.si
Re: Problem using SVN
Posted by Kevin White <ke...@bellsouth.net>.
Glad to hear your message regarding your success. Yes -- I followed the
manual for the most part, some times more than others. After my fifth time
building a repository, I decided to post for help. This is the forth or
fifth different type of source control system, and I have been excited about
what I have heard until I tried it first hand.
Is the status supposed to change when you check a file out? It doesn't do
much for me. I suppose that I will have to tinker for a while until I get
the hang of what I am doing wrong. I have tried downloading tortisesvn
twice in the last three days, but the download keeps failing -- maybe there
is a server down or something.
Anyway, thanks for the help,
-Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lieven Govaerts" <lg...@mobsol.be>
To: "'Kevin White'" <ke...@bellsouth.net>;
<us...@subversion.tigris.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 4:50 AM
Subject: RE: Problem using SVN
> Kevin,
>
> The first time I started with Subversion in Windows, I was up and
> running in half an hour. So it can be done, don't worry :)
>
> Reading some documentation is mandatory though, if you're in a hurry,
> just read the quick start guide:
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.intro.quickstart.html
> ( just replace all unix paths with your normal windows directories )
>
> If you have a problem with the command-line commands, install
> TortoiseSVN, a nice GUI integrated with explorer:
> http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org
>
>> It does not show up in the list, but trying to add it again results
>> in a failure - already added.
>
> You know that Subversion is not plainly copying files to its repository
> like SourceSafe does do you? Your files are stored in revision files in
> the c:\svn\yourrepos\db\revs folder. What list do you refer to?
> You need to 'svn checkout' again to create your local working copy.
>
> regards,
>
> Lieven.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Kevin White [mailto:kevinwhite@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: zaterdag 9 juli 2005 21:31
> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Problem using SVN
>
>
> Hello. New to subversion. Very confusion program -- easy to see why
> there
> are ten pages of FAQs. Half a day to try and install/get everything to
> work, still trying. Confused by the directories and where to put things --
> seems like the old DOS3.1, need to make a special c:\SVN directory to make
> it work. I imported a bunch of files, then tried to import another, and
> not
> much happened. Tried to add it from command line, and it accepted the
> command. It does not show up in the list, but trying to add it again
> results in a failure - already added.
>
> Yargh. Back to the old CM tool. I was hopeful, too. Maybe next year?.?
>
> -Kevin
>
>
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RE: Problem using SVN
Posted by Lieven Govaerts <lg...@mobsol.be>.
Kevin,
The first time I started with Subversion in Windows, I was up and
running in half an hour. So it can be done, don't worry :)
Reading some documentation is mandatory though, if you're in a hurry,
just read the quick start guide:
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.intro.quickstart.html
( just replace all unix paths with your normal windows directories )
If you have a problem with the command-line commands, install
TortoiseSVN, a nice GUI integrated with explorer:
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org
> It does not show up in the list, but trying to add it again results
> in a failure - already added.
You know that Subversion is not plainly copying files to its repository
like SourceSafe does do you? Your files are stored in revision files in
the c:\svn\yourrepos\db\revs folder. What list do you refer to?
You need to 'svn checkout' again to create your local working copy.
regards,
Lieven.
________________________________
From: Kevin White [mailto:kevinwhite@bellsouth.net]
Sent: zaterdag 9 juli 2005 21:31
To: users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Problem using SVN
Hello. New to subversion. Very confusion program -- easy to see why there
are ten pages of FAQs. Half a day to try and install/get everything to
work, still trying. Confused by the directories and where to put things --
seems like the old DOS3.1, need to make a special c:\SVN directory to make
it work. I imported a bunch of files, then tried to import another, and not
much happened. Tried to add it from command line, and it accepted the
command. It does not show up in the list, but trying to add it again
results in a failure - already added.
Yargh. Back to the old CM tool. I was hopeful, too. Maybe next year?.?
-Kevin
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