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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm> on 2006/12/13 09:30:48 UTC
maven2 and NTLM
Hi all,
According to the docs, maven1 supported NTLM proxies. I cannot find
anything definitive to say whether NTLM proxies are supported in maven2
though.
In our case the ISA proxy also supports basic auth, but this also doesn't
work - I suspect the underlying proxy code implementation in maven wants
to use NTLM but hasn't been given the name of the domain by the maven
config, and so fails.
Can anyone confirm if this is the case?
Regards,
Graham
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Mykel Alvis <my...@weirdness.com>.
I'll help test. I'm unskilled in the proxy coding world, but I have access
to several proxy setups and can do VMs for more (probably).
On 12/20/06, Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> > On 19/12/2006, at 9:39 PM, Steve Loughran wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone interested in working on this?
> >
> > Thanks for volunteering! :)
> >
>
> I knew that would happen. But I suspect that nobody else would do it.
>
> How about,
>
> "who is interested in working with me to come up with something that is
> broadly useful"?
>
> One troublespot with proxy code is testing. I know I cant test NTLM
> proxies, but do at least have access to an unauthenticated proxy-whether
> I want to or not
>
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
Barrie Treloar wrote:
> On 12/20/06, Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm> wrote:
>> On Wed, December 20, 2006 1:27 pm, Steve Loughran wrote:
>>
>> > "who is interested in working with me to come up with something that is
>> > broadly useful"?
>> >
>> > One troublespot with proxy code is testing. I know I cant test NTLM
>> > proxies, but do at least have access to an unauthenticated
>> proxy-whether
>> > I want to or not
>>
>> I can help - I have access to an authenticated NTLM proxy right now. I
>> may
>> have patchy access to the net next week for the holiday, but after 1 Jan
>> things return to semi normal.
>
> I also have an NTLM auth proxy here so can try stuff.
> I'm not sure whether I have any spare capacity to help code though.
thinking about it, I could probably simulate an auth proxy network with
vmware and various downloads from MSDN
1. vm1: win2K03R2 as the PDC with MS proxy and two network cards, one
bridged out and one private to the vm cluster
2. vm2 : winXP client + java5
3. vm3: vista+java 6
machines #2 and #3 would only have access to the private lan; the server
would have both and be the relay through which I'd deploy the tests to
hosts 2 &3, collecting the results for analsysis.
Its doable, I just need to get more memory on my desktop and build up
the server image.
-steve
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Barrie Treloar <ba...@gmail.com>.
On 12/20/06, Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm> wrote:
> On Wed, December 20, 2006 1:27 pm, Steve Loughran wrote:
>
> > "who is interested in working with me to come up with something that is
> > broadly useful"?
> >
> > One troublespot with proxy code is testing. I know I cant test NTLM
> > proxies, but do at least have access to an unauthenticated proxy-whether
> > I want to or not
>
> I can help - I have access to an authenticated NTLM proxy right now. I may
> have patchy access to the net next week for the holiday, but after 1 Jan
> things return to semi normal.
I also have an NTLM auth proxy here so can try stuff.
I'm not sure whether I have any spare capacity to help code though.
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm>.
On Wed, December 20, 2006 1:27 pm, Steve Loughran wrote:
> "who is interested in working with me to come up with something that is
> broadly useful"?
>
> One troublespot with proxy code is testing. I know I cant test NTLM
> proxies, but do at least have access to an unauthenticated proxy-whether
> I want to or not
I can help - I have access to an authenticated NTLM proxy right now. I may
have patchy access to the net next week for the holiday, but after 1 Jan
things return to semi normal.
Regards,
Graham
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
Brett Porter wrote:
>
> On 19/12/2006, at 9:39 PM, Steve Loughran wrote:
>
>> Anyone interested in working on this?
>
> Thanks for volunteering! :)
>
I knew that would happen. But I suspect that nobody else would do it.
How about,
"who is interested in working with me to come up with something that is
broadly useful"?
One troublespot with proxy code is testing. I know I cant test NTLM
proxies, but do at least have access to an unauthenticated proxy-whether
I want to or not
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 19/12/2006, at 9:39 PM, Steve Loughran wrote:
> Anyone interested in working on this?
Thanks for volunteering! :)
- Brett
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> google says...
>
> http.auth.ntlm.domain
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/net/properties.html
>
> Could be worth exposing this via the settings into the lightweight
> wagon, and passing the equivalent to the httpclient wagon via it's
> authenticators.
>
> - Brett
FWIW, Ant1.7.0 final has rolled back support for the java1.5 automatic
proxy stuff. It didnt work and it broke odd things like Oracle's JDBC
driver.
We really need a commons-proxy-setup project that
-correctly determines proxy settings on the main systems (windows,
mac, unix, gnome, kde)
-maybe: interprets autoconf files if bsf+rhino or java6 is present
-shares user overrides in a single consistent place (file or,
java.util.prefs)
-lets classes listen for proxy change events
-is smart enough to bypass the proxy if its hostname doesnt resolve,
or the port isnt open
Anyone interested in working on this?
-steve
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Mykel Alvis <my...@weirdness.com>.
Oops. Let me clarify. I did NOT ask about the 1.5 ntlm properties. I asked
about NTLM authentication. Sorry.
On 12/13/06, Mykel Alvis <my...@weirdness.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12/13/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > google says...
> >
> > http.auth.ntlm.domain
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/net/properties.html
> >
> > Could be worth exposing this via the settings into the lightweight
> > wagon, and passing the equivalent to the httpclient wagon via it's
> > authenticators.
> >
> > - Brett
>
>
>
>
> Actually, I asked about this a few times in the last 6 months to no
> avail. I tried making a wagon impl for dav that used the commons http
> client ntlm auth, but I never got it to work, and with low response signal
> from the lists coupled with the tight-ish timeframes I had to work with, I
> had to abandon that path entirely.
>
> If the ntlm auth capabilities could be introduced into the lightweight
> wagon, that might solve my issue for downloads, but probably not for dav
> which was my target issue before. I'd be interested to see the results.
>
>
> On 13/12/2006, at 9:56 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/13/06, Brett Porter < brett@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> In addition, Java 1.4+ support some NTLM servers OOTB by setting the
> > >> correct system properties. This was one of the main reasons we never
> > >> bothered requiring httpclient to support NTLM though we could
> > >> optionally reintroduce it if there were demand. This is the first
> > >> time I recall hearing about it in a year as opposed to when m1 was
> > >> coming out and it was a weekly question.
> > >
> > > Do you know what settings you need to use?
> > > Finding this information out is worse than needles and haystacks.
> > >
> > > Ta
> > >
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Mykel Alvis <my...@weirdness.com>.
On 12/13/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> google says...
>
> http.auth.ntlm.domain
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/net/properties.html
>
> Could be worth exposing this via the settings into the lightweight
> wagon, and passing the equivalent to the httpclient wagon via it's
> authenticators.
>
> - Brett
Actually, I asked about this a few times in the last 6 months to no avail.
I tried making a wagon impl for dav that used the commons http client ntlm
auth, but I never got it to work, and with low response signal from the
lists coupled with the tight-ish timeframes I had to work with, I had to
abandon that path entirely.
If the ntlm auth capabilities could be introduced into the lightweight
wagon, that might solve my issue for downloads, but probably not for dav
which was my target issue before. I'd be interested to see the results.
On 13/12/2006, at 9:56 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
>
> > On 12/13/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> In addition, Java 1.4+ support some NTLM servers OOTB by setting the
> >> correct system properties. This was one of the main reasons we never
> >> bothered requiring httpclient to support NTLM though we could
> >> optionally reintroduce it if there were demand. This is the first
> >> time I recall hearing about it in a year as opposed to when m1 was
> >> coming out and it was a weekly question.
> >
> > Do you know what settings you need to use?
> > Finding this information out is worse than needles and haystacks.
> >
> > Ta
> >
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
google says...
http.auth.ntlm.domain
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/net/properties.html
Could be worth exposing this via the settings into the lightweight
wagon, and passing the equivalent to the httpclient wagon via it's
authenticators.
- Brett
On 13/12/2006, at 9:56 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
> On 12/13/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> In addition, Java 1.4+ support some NTLM servers OOTB by setting the
>> correct system properties. This was one of the main reasons we never
>> bothered requiring httpclient to support NTLM though we could
>> optionally reintroduce it if there were demand. This is the first
>> time I recall hearing about it in a year as opposed to when m1 was
>> coming out and it was a weekly question.
>
> Do you know what settings you need to use?
> Finding this information out is worse than needles and haystacks.
>
> Ta
>
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@venisse.net>.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/net/properties.html
Barrie Treloar a écrit :
> On 12/13/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> In addition, Java 1.4+ support some NTLM servers OOTB by setting the
>> correct system properties. This was one of the main reasons we never
>> bothered requiring httpclient to support NTLM though we could
>> optionally reintroduce it if there were demand. This is the first
>> time I recall hearing about it in a year as opposed to when m1 was
>> coming out and it was a weekly question.
>
> Do you know what settings you need to use?
> Finding this information out is worse than needles and haystacks.
>
> Ta
>
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Barrie Treloar <ba...@gmail.com>.
On 12/13/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> In addition, Java 1.4+ support some NTLM servers OOTB by setting the
> correct system properties. This was one of the main reasons we never
> bothered requiring httpclient to support NTLM though we could
> optionally reintroduce it if there were demand. This is the first
> time I recall hearing about it in a year as opposed to when m1 was
> coming out and it was a weekly question.
Do you know what settings you need to use?
Finding this information out is worse than needles and haystacks.
Ta
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
In addition, Java 1.4+ support some NTLM servers OOTB by setting the
correct system properties. This was one of the main reasons we never
bothered requiring httpclient to support NTLM though we could
optionally reintroduce it if there were demand. This is the first
time I recall hearing about it in a year as opposed to when m1 was
coming out and it was a weekly question.
- Brett
On 13/12/2006, at 8:02 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
> On 12/13/06, Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> According to the docs, maven1 supported NTLM proxies. I cannot find
>> anything definitive to say whether NTLM proxies are supported in
>> maven2
>> though.
>>
>> In our case the ISA proxy also supports basic auth, but this also
>> doesn't
>> work - I suspect the underlying proxy code implementation in maven
>> wants
>> to use NTLM but hasn't been given the name of the domain by the maven
>> config, and so fails.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm if this is the case?
>
> Maven 2 does not support NTLM.
>
> Most people are working around this by using NTLMAPS from sourceforge
> as a proxy.
>
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Re: maven2 and NTLM
Posted by Barrie Treloar <ba...@gmail.com>.
On 12/13/06, Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> According to the docs, maven1 supported NTLM proxies. I cannot find
> anything definitive to say whether NTLM proxies are supported in maven2
> though.
>
> In our case the ISA proxy also supports basic auth, but this also doesn't
> work - I suspect the underlying proxy code implementation in maven wants
> to use NTLM but hasn't been given the name of the domain by the maven
> config, and so fails.
>
> Can anyone confirm if this is the case?
Maven 2 does not support NTLM.
Most people are working around this by using NTLMAPS from sourceforge
as a proxy.
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