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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> on 2011/08/21 10:26:24 UTC
Re: Websites of retired podlings (was Re: Retired podlings with RW
SVN access)
> Another option which might be cleaner and less burdensome to administer would
> be to create a boilerplate "Retired Podling" static html page which would
> replace the website for any podling which does not graduate. This page would
> give a brief explanation of the project's history and status and point at any
> remaining resources, such as read-only SVN if the podling completed a
> successful code grant.
>
> If there is interest in that idea, I volunteer to help create the template for
> the "Retired Podling" page.
I like that idea. But we should the folder i.a.o/retiredpodling
not simply have a httpd redirect rule pointing to the incubator status page?
The state of the podling is reflected there very well and there is
even a chance to send a personal message
Christian
>
> I have two objectives with this proposal. The first is practical: we should aid
> users who may come looking for a project to learn what happened to it with
> minimal effort.
>
> The other goal is to help podlings retire with dignity. Every software project
> has a life cycle, there are many reasons why a podling might not make it
> to graduation, and a lot may have been accomplished during an attempt at
> incubation. I think our default policy should be to recognize and celebrate
> the contributions that a podling's volunteers made while it was active.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Websites of retired podlings (was Re: Retired podlings with RW
SVN access)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 07:04:31PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:26:24AM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> > > Another option which might be cleaner and less burdensome to administer would
> > > be to create a boilerplate "Retired Podling" static html page which would
> > > replace the website for any podling which does not graduate. This page would
> > > give a brief explanation of the project's history and status and point at any
> > > remaining resources, such as read-only SVN if the podling completed a
> > > successful code grant.
> > >
> > > If there is interest in that idea, I volunteer to help create the template for
> > > the "Retired Podling" page.
> >
> > I like that idea. But we should the folder i.a.o/retiredpodling
> > not simply have a httpd redirect rule pointing to the incubator status page?
> > The state of the podling is reflected there very well and there is
> > even a chance to send a personal message
>
> That also sounds like a decent way of handling things.
>
> My preference is still to create dedicated pages, if such pages can be made to
> look respectable and can be put into place with minimal effort by the person
> performing the retirement. If a template contribution does not materialize in
> the next few days from me, though, redirecting to the status page seems like
> an OK fallback.
More than a week has passed and I have not managed to get a template
contribution submitted. It's time to get out of Gavin's way and say thanks to
him for taking the initiative.
I withdraw my own proposal and endorse Christian's proposal.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Websites of retired podlings (was Re: Retired podlings with RW
SVN access)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:26:24AM +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> > Another option which might be cleaner and less burdensome to administer would
> > be to create a boilerplate "Retired Podling" static html page which would
> > replace the website for any podling which does not graduate. This page would
> > give a brief explanation of the project's history and status and point at any
> > remaining resources, such as read-only SVN if the podling completed a
> > successful code grant.
> >
> > If there is interest in that idea, I volunteer to help create the template for
> > the "Retired Podling" page.
>
> I like that idea. But we should the folder i.a.o/retiredpodling
> not simply have a httpd redirect rule pointing to the incubator status page?
> The state of the podling is reflected there very well and there is
> even a chance to send a personal message
That also sounds like a decent way of handling things.
My preference is still to create dedicated pages, if such pages can be made to
look respectable and can be put into place with minimal effort by the person
performing the retirement. If a template contribution does not materialize in
the next few days from me, though, redirecting to the status page seems like
an OK fallback.
Marvin Humphrey
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