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Posted to dev@doris.apache.org by 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> on 2022/04/01 05:02:20 UTC
Re:Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi all,
I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss about it.
This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the nomination of the PMC Chair.
The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their project.
PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
[2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
=========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
Establish the Apache Doris Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
and analysis.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
* Bin Ling <li...@apache.org>
* Bo Wang <wa...@apache.org>
* Chaoyong Li <li...@apache.org>
* Chun Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
* Conghui Cai <ca...@apache.org>
* Dayue Gao <ga...@apache.org>
* De Li <li...@apache.org>
* Hangyuan Liu <li...@apache.org>
* Hao Chen <ch...@apache.org>
* HaoPeng Li <li...@apache.org>
* Jiafeng Zhang <ji...@apache.org>
* Kaisen Kang <ka...@apache.org>
* Ling Miao <li...@apache.org>
* Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>
* Mingyu Chen <mo...@apache.org>
* Ruyue Ma <ma...@apache.org>
* Shao Feng Shi <sh...@apache.org>
* Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
* Willem Ning Jiang <ni...@apache.org>
* Zheng Shao <zs...@apache.org>
* Zhengguo Yang <ya...@apache.org>
* Zuo Wei <we...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
discharged.
--
此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
Email:
chenmingyu@apache.org
在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <li...@apache.org> 写道：
>Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
>
>What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at
>IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
>
>Ling Miao
>
>陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
>
>> Hi All,
>> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on suggestions.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the
>> Doris repo into three separate repo.
>>
>> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
>>
>> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
>>
>> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
>> so that we can release these modules independently.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector components.
>>
>> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
>> 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
>>
>>
>> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now.
>> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and
>> start a discussion at IPMC
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 此致！Best Regards
>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>
>> Email:
>> chenmingyu@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
>> >Thanks for the explanations.
>> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
>> >
>> >Best
>> >Yun Tang
>> >
>> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
>> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
>> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
>> at least give some background information.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on
>> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
>> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the
>> end of Feb.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> 此致！Best Regards
>> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >>
>> >> Email:
>> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
>> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the
>> incubator!
>> >> >
>> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
>> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
>> at least give some background information.
>> >> >
>> >> >Best
>> >> >Yun Tang
>> >> >
>> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
>> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
>> get in
>> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering
>> the
>> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
>> version of
>> >> >> > Impala.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
>> planning are
>> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new
>> features
>> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join ->
>> inner join
>> >> >> > [2], etc.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC,
>> we found
>> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
>> implemented.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many
>> common
>> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
>> functionality, with
>> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Email:
>> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> 写道：
>> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
>> it's
>> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
>> maven
>> >> >> > >>release.
>> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
>> java
>> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
>> graduation.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss
>> it. I
>> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >--
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >Email:
>> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the
>> community.
>> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
>> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
>> get in
>> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
>> it's
>> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
>> maven
>> >> >> > >>release.
>> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
>> java
>> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
>> graduation.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
>> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3
>> years
>> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about
>> open
>> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy
>> on
>> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related
>> to Doris'
>> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris
>> project
>> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
>> companies,
>> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC
>> members),
>> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
>> subscribers, and
>> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues
>> have
>> >> >> > been resolved.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
>> Foundation
>> >> >> > requirements[2].
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4]
>> following
>> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving
>> forward.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
>> incubating[5][6]. I
>> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the
>> mentors'
>> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version
>> v0.7 and
>> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project
>> (hands-on
>> >> >> > code merge).
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to
>> decouple the
>> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of
>> abstract API.
>> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult
>> to
>> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the
>> Hadoop
>> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or
>> DBMS system.
>> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the
>> needs of
>> >> >> > both projects.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has
>> its own
>> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query
>> layer with
>> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
>> architectural
>> >> >> > changes for this.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution
>> engine that
>> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
>> different from
>> >> >> > Impala.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to
>> follow
>> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
>> compliant with
>> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship
>> between
>> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and
>> thank the
>> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
>> original
>> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary
>> discussion.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before
>> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [3]
>> >> >> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [4]
>> >> >> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [5]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [6]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [7]
>> >> >> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [8]
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> [9]
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> --
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Email:
>> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >
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回复： Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Posted by 41108453 <41...@qq.com.INVALID>.
Then launch this PMC chair vote as soon as possible
I support Mingyu to be this Chair.
+1
------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
发件人: "dev" <lingmiao@apache.org>;
发送时间: 2022年4月2日(星期六) 上午10:52
收件人: "dev"<dev@doris.apache.org>;
主题: Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Maybe we should open a new thread to vote the PMC Chair ~
Ling Miao
De Li <lide@apache.org> 于2022年4月2日周六 10:45写道：
> I very agree with Willem Jiang.
> Here is my +1 for Mingyu as the PMC Chair.
>
> ---
> lide-reed
> lide@apache.org
>
> On 2022/04/02 02:36:59 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> > to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
> > For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
> > leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <morningman@163.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss
> about it.
> > > This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the
> nomination of the PMC Chair.
> > > The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the
> board about the health and status of their project.
> > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > > During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push
> things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other
> ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> are
> > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >
> > >
> > > =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> > > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> establish
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > > and analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > > further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris
> Project;
> > > and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> > >
> > >
> > > * Bin Ling <lingbin@apache.org>
> > > * Bo Wang <wangbo@apache.org>
> > > * Chaoyong Li <lichaoyong@apache.org>
> > > * Chun Zhao <zhaoc@apache.org>
> > > * Conghui Cai <caiconghui@apache.org>
> > > * Dayue Gao <gaodayue@apache.org>
> > > * De Li <lide@apache.org>
> > > * Hangyuan Liu <liuhangyuan@apache.org>
> > > * Hao Chen <chenhao@apache.org>
> > > * HaoPeng Li <lihaopeng@apache.org>
> > > * Jiafeng Zhang <jiafengzheng@apache.org>
> > > * Kaisen Kang <kangkaisen@apache.org>
> > > * Ling Miao <lingmiao@apache.org>
> > > * Ming Wen <wenming@apache.org>
> > > * Mingyu Chen <morningman@apache.org>
> > > * Ruyue Ma <maruyue@apache.org>
> > > * Shao Feng Shi <shaofengshi@apache.org>
> > > * Sijie Guo <sijie@apache.org>
> > > * Willem Ning Jiang <ningjiang@apache.org>
> > > * Zheng Shao <zshao@apache.org>
> > > * Zhengguo Yang <yangzhg@apache.org>
> > > * Zuo Wei <weizuo@apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed
> to
> > > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> of
> > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the
> > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling;
> and
> > > be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > discharged.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > 此致！Best Regards
> > > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >
> > > Email:
> > > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <lingmiao@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> > > >
> > > >What preparations are we missing before launching a community
> discussion at
> > > >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> > > >
> > > >Ling Miao
> > > >
> > > >陈明雨 <morningman@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on
> suggestions.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from
> the
> > > >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> > > >> so that we can release these modules independently.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector
> components.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> > > >> 2.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
> > > >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation
> issues now.
> > > >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the
> Resolution and
> > > >> start a discussion at IPMC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >>
> > > >> Email:
> > > >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <tangyun@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> > > >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Best
> > > >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >
> > > >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about
> "doris" on
> > > >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> > > >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved
> at the
> > > >> end of Feb.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Email:
> > > >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <tangyun@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation
> from the
> > > >> incubator!
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Best
> > > >> >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
> > > >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> 陈明雨 <morningman@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before
> entering
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
> > > >> version of
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
> > > >> planning are
> > > >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back
> some new
> > > >> features
> > > >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left
> join ->
> > > >> inner join
> > > >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala
> PMC,
> > > >> we found
> > > >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
> > > >> implemented.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace,
> and many
> > > >> common
> > > >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
> > > >> functionality, with
> > > >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > --
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Email:
> > > >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <morningman@163.com> 写道：
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to
> discuss
> > > >> it. I
> > > >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this
> issue.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >--
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Email:
> > > >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <
> willem.jiang@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up
> the
> > > >> community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
> > > >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <morningman@163.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for
> over 3
> > > >> years
> > > >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot
> about
> > > >> open
> > > >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's
> philosophy
> > > >> on
> > > >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters
> related
> > > >> to Doris'
> > > >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of
> the Doris
> > > >> project
> > > >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
> > > >> companies,
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new
> PPMC
> > > >> members),
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
> > > >> subscribers, and
> > > >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the
> dev@doris.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance
> issues
> > > >> have
> > > >> >> >> > been resolved.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
> > > >> Foundation
> > > >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check
> List[4]
> > > >> following
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently
> moving
> > > >> forward.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
> > > >> incubating[5][6]. I
> > > >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate
> the
> > > >> mentors'
> > > >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala
> version
> > > >> v0.7 and
> > > >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the
> project
> > > >> (hands-on
> > > >> >> >> > code merge).
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire
> to
> > > >> decouple the
> > > >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer
> of
> > > >> abstract API.
> > > >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's
> evolution.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it
> difficult
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on
> the
> > > >> Hadoop
> > > >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse
> or
> > > >> DBMS system.
> > > >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not
> meet the
> > > >> needs of
> > > >> >> >> > both projects.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and
> has
> > > >> its own
> > > >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the
> query
> > > >> layer with
> > > >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
> > > >> architectural
> > > >> >> >> > changes for this.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized
> execution
> > > >> engine that
> > > >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
> > > >> different from
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to
> continue to
> > > >> follow
> > > >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and
> integrations.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
> > > >> compliant with
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the
> relationship
> > > >> between
> > > >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README
> file[9] and
> > > >> thank the
> > > >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
> > > >> original
> > > >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for
> necessary
> > > >> discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be
> discussed before
> > > >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [8]
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [9]
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> --
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Email:
> > > >> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >> >> >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@doris.apache.org
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
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Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Posted by ling miao <li...@apache.org>.
Maybe we should open a new thread to vote the PMC Chair ~
Ling Miao
De Li <li...@apache.org> 于2022年4月2日周六 10:45写道：
> I very agree with Willem Jiang.
> Here is my +1 for Mingyu as the PMC Chair.
>
> ---
> lide-reed
> lide@apache.org
>
> On 2022/04/02 02:36:59 Willem Jiang wrote:
> > We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> > to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
> > For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
> > leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss
> about it.
> > > This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the
> nomination of the PMC Chair.
> > > The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the
> board about the health and status of their project.
> > > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and
> be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for
> working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > > During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push
> things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other
> ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you
> are
> > > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote
> soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >
> > >
> > > =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> > > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> establish
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > > and analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > > further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris
> Project;
> > > and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> > >
> > >
> > > * Bin Ling <li...@apache.org>
> > > * Bo Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > > * Chaoyong Li <li...@apache.org>
> > > * Chun Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
> > > * Conghui Cai <ca...@apache.org>
> > > * Dayue Gao <ga...@apache.org>
> > > * De Li <li...@apache.org>
> > > * Hangyuan Liu <li...@apache.org>
> > > * Hao Chen <ch...@apache.org>
> > > * HaoPeng Li <li...@apache.org>
> > > * Jiafeng Zhang <ji...@apache.org>
> > > * Kaisen Kang <ka...@apache.org>
> > > * Ling Miao <li...@apache.org>
> > > * Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>
> > > * Mingyu Chen <mo...@apache.org>
> > > * Ruyue Ma <ma...@apache.org>
> > > * Shao Feng Shi <sh...@apache.org>
> > > * Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
> > > * Willem Ning Jiang <ni...@apache.org>
> > > * Zheng Shao <zs...@apache.org>
> > > * Zhengguo Yang <ya...@apache.org>
> > > * Zuo Wei <we...@apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed
> to
> > > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
> of
> > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the
> > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling;
> and
> > > be it further
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > discharged.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > 此致！Best Regards
> > > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >
> > > Email:
> > > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <li...@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> > > >
> > > >What preparations are we missing before launching a community
> discussion at
> > > >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> > > >
> > > >Ling Miao
> > > >
> > > >陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
> > > >
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on
> suggestions.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from
> the
> > > >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> > > >>
> > > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> > > >> so that we can release these modules independently.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector
> components.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> > > >> 2.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
> > > >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation
> issues now.
> > > >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the
> Resolution and
> > > >> start a discussion at IPMC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >>
> > > >> Email:
> > > >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> > > >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Best
> > > >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >
> > > >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about
> "doris" on
> > > >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> > > >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved
> at the
> > > >> end of Feb.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Email:
> > > >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
> > > >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation
> from the
> > > >> incubator!
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread
> links. Are
> > > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we
> could
> > > >> at least give some background information.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Best
> > > >> >> >Yun Tang
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
> > > >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before
> entering
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
> > > >> version of
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
> > > >> planning are
> > > >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back
> some new
> > > >> features
> > > >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left
> join ->
> > > >> inner join
> > > >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala
> PMC,
> > > >> we found
> > > >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
> > > >> implemented.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace,
> and many
> > > >> common
> > > >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
> > > >> functionality, with
> > > >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > --
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Email:
> > > >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> 写道：
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to
> discuss
> > > >> it. I
> > > >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this
> issue.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >--
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >Email:
> > > >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <
> willem.jiang@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up
> the
> > > >> community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
> > > >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we
> need to
> > > >> get in
> > > >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java
> code,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for
> the
> > > >> maven
> > > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for
> the
> > > >> java
> > > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > > >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> > > >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for
> over 3
> > > >> years
> > > >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot
> about
> > > >> open
> > > >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's
> philosophy
> > > >> on
> > > >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters
> related
> > > >> to Doris'
> > > >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of
> the Doris
> > > >> project
> > > >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
> > > >> companies,
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new
> PPMC
> > > >> members),
> > > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
> > > >> subscribers, and
> > > >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the
> dev@doris.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance
> issues
> > > >> have
> > > >> >> >> > been resolved.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
> > > >> Foundation
> > > >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check
> List[4]
> > > >> following
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently
> moving
> > > >> forward.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
> > > >> incubating[5][6]. I
> > > >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate
> the
> > > >> mentors'
> > > >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala
> version
> > > >> v0.7 and
> > > >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the
> project
> > > >> (hands-on
> > > >> >> >> > code merge).
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire
> to
> > > >> decouple the
> > > >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer
> of
> > > >> abstract API.
> > > >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's
> evolution.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it
> difficult
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on
> the
> > > >> Hadoop
> > > >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse
> or
> > > >> DBMS system.
> > > >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not
> meet the
> > > >> needs of
> > > >> >> >> > both projects.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and
> has
> > > >> its own
> > > >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the
> query
> > > >> layer with
> > > >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
> > > >> architectural
> > > >> >> >> > changes for this.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized
> execution
> > > >> engine that
> > > >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
> > > >> different from
> > > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to
> continue to
> > > >> follow
> > > >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and
> integrations.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
> > > >> compliant with
> > > >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the
> relationship
> > > >> between
> > > >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README
> file[9] and
> > > >> thank the
> > > >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
> > > >> original
> > > >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for
> necessary
> > > >> discussion.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be
> discussed before
> > > >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [8]
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> [9]
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> --
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
> > > >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > > >> >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> >> > >>> Email:
> > > >> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > > >> >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >>
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >> >> >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@doris.apache.org
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
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Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Posted by De Li <li...@apache.org>.
I very agree with Willem Jiang.
Here is my +1 for Mingyu as the PMC Chair.
---
lide-reed
lide@apache.org
On 2022/04/02 02:36:59 Willem Jiang wrote:
> We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
> For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
> leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss about it.
> > This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the nomination of the PMC Chair.
> > The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their project.
> > PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
> >
> >
> > As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> > During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
> >
> >
> > Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
> > welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> >
> >
> > =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > and analysis.
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
> > and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> >
> >
> > * Bin Ling <li...@apache.org>
> > * Bo Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> > * Chaoyong Li <li...@apache.org>
> > * Chun Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
> > * Conghui Cai <ca...@apache.org>
> > * Dayue Gao <ga...@apache.org>
> > * De Li <li...@apache.org>
> > * Hangyuan Liu <li...@apache.org>
> > * Hao Chen <ch...@apache.org>
> > * HaoPeng Li <li...@apache.org>
> > * Jiafeng Zhang <ji...@apache.org>
> > * Kaisen Kang <ka...@apache.org>
> > * Ling Miao <li...@apache.org>
> > * Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>
> > * Mingyu Chen <mo...@apache.org>
> > * Ruyue Ma <ma...@apache.org>
> > * Shao Feng Shi <sh...@apache.org>
> > * Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
> > * Willem Ning Jiang <ni...@apache.org>
> > * Zheng Shao <zs...@apache.org>
> > * Zhengguo Yang <ya...@apache.org>
> > * Zuo Wei <we...@apache.org>
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
> > the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
> > be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > discharged.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > 此致！Best Regards
> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >
> > Email:
> > chenmingyu@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <li...@apache.org> 写道：
> > >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> > >
> > >What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at
> > >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> > >
> > >Ling Miao
> > >
> > >陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi All,
> > >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on suggestions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the
> > >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> > >>
> > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> > >>
> > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> > >>
> > >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> > >> so that we can release these modules independently.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector components.
> > >>
> > >> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> > >> 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now.
> > >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and
> > >> start a discussion at IPMC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> 此致！Best Regards
> > >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >>
> > >> Email:
> > >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
> > >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> > >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> > >> >
> > >> >Best
> > >> >Yun Tang
> > >> >
> > >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
> > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
> > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
> > >> at least give some background information.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on
> > >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> > >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the
> > >> end of Feb.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 此致！Best Regards
> > >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Email:
> > >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
> > >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the
> > >> incubator!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
> > >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
> > >> at least give some background information.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Best
> > >> >> >Yun Tang
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
> > >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
> > >> get in
> > >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering
> > >> the
> > >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
> > >> version of
> > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
> > >> planning are
> > >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new
> > >> features
> > >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join ->
> > >> inner join
> > >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC,
> > >> we found
> > >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
> > >> implemented.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many
> > >> common
> > >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
> > >> functionality, with
> > >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
> > >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Email:
> > >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> 写道：
> > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
> > >> it's
> > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
> > >> maven
> > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
> > >> java
> > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > >> graduation.
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss
> > >> it. I
> > >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue.
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >--
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
> > >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >Email:
> > >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the
> > >> community.
> > >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
> > >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
> > >> get in
> > >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
> > >> it's
> > >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
> > >> maven
> > >> >> >> > >>release.
> > >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
> > >> java
> > >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> > >> graduation.
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> > >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3
> > >> years
> > >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about
> > >> open
> > >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy
> > >> on
> > >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related
> > >> to Doris'
> > >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris
> > >> project
> > >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
> > >> companies,
> > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC
> > >> members),
> > >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
> > >> subscribers, and
> > >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues
> > >> have
> > >> >> >> > been resolved.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
> > >> Foundation
> > >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4]
> > >> following
> > >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving
> > >> forward.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
> > >> incubating[5][6]. I
> > >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the
> > >> mentors'
> > >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version
> > >> v0.7 and
> > >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project
> > >> (hands-on
> > >> >> >> > code merge).
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to
> > >> decouple the
> > >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of
> > >> abstract API.
> > >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult
> > >> to
> > >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the
> > >> Hadoop
> > >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or
> > >> DBMS system.
> > >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the
> > >> needs of
> > >> >> >> > both projects.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has
> > >> its own
> > >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query
> > >> layer with
> > >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
> > >> architectural
> > >> >> >> > changes for this.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution
> > >> engine that
> > >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
> > >> different from
> > >> >> >> > Impala.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to
> > >> follow
> > >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
> > >> compliant with
> > >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship
> > >> between
> > >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and
> > >> thank the
> > >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
> > >> original
> > >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary
> > >> discussion.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before
> > >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [8]
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> [9]
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> --
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
> > >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> > >> >> >> > >>>
> > >> >> >> > >>> Email:
> > >> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> >
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Re:Re:Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Posted by 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com>.
If there are no other questions, I will initiate a graduation vote on the dev@doris.
Thank you all!
--
此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
Email:
chenmingyu@apache.org
At 2022-04-02 11:59:00, "陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>Hi willem,
>> We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
>> to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
>Do we need to ask each current PPMC member individually if they would like to join the Doris PMC?
>I'm not sure how this kind of inquiry should go? For example, is there a formal email confirmation required?
>
>
>I personally suggest that all current PPMC members can be invited to Doris PMC because they all contributed to the development of Doris.
>And after that, everyone still has the right to choose whether to withdraw from the PMC.
>
>
>
>--
>
>此致！Best Regards
>陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
>Email:
>chenmingyu@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
>在 2022-04-02 10:36:59，"Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com> 写道：
>>We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
>>to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
>>For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
>>leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
>>
>>Willem Jiang
>>
>>Twitter: willemjiang
>>Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>
>>On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss about it.
>>> This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the nomination of the PMC Chair.
>>> The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their project.
>>> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
>>>
>>>
>>> As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
>>> During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
>>> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
>>> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>>
>>>
>>> =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
>>> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>>> and analysis.
>>>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>>> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>>> further
>>>
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>>> and be it further
>>>
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>>>
>>>
>>> * Bin Ling <li...@apache.org>
>>> * Bo Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>>> * Chaoyong Li <li...@apache.org>
>>> * Chun Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
>>> * Conghui Cai <ca...@apache.org>
>>> * Dayue Gao <ga...@apache.org>
>>> * De Li <li...@apache.org>
>>> * Hangyuan Liu <li...@apache.org>
>>> * Hao Chen <ch...@apache.org>
>>> * HaoPeng Li <li...@apache.org>
>>> * Jiafeng Zhang <ji...@apache.org>
>>> * Kaisen Kang <ka...@apache.org>
>>> * Ling Miao <li...@apache.org>
>>> * Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>
>>> * Mingyu Chen <mo...@apache.org>
>>> * Ruyue Ma <ma...@apache.org>
>>> * Shao Feng Shi <sh...@apache.org>
>>> * Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
>>> * Willem Ning Jiang <ni...@apache.org>
>>> * Zheng Shao <zs...@apache.org>
>>> * Zhengguo Yang <ya...@apache.org>
>>> * Zuo Wei <we...@apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
>>> the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
>>> be it further
>>>
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>> Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>> discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> 此致！Best Regards
>>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>>
>>> Email:
>>> chenmingyu@apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <li...@apache.org> 写道：
>>> >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
>>> >
>>> >What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at
>>> >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
>>> >
>>> >Ling Miao
>>> >
>>> >陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
>>> >
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on suggestions.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the
>>> >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
>>> >>
>>> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
>>> >>
>>> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
>>> >>
>>> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
>>> >> so that we can release these modules independently.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector components.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
>>> >> 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
>>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now.
>>> >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and
>>> >> start a discussion at IPMC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> 此致！Best Regards
>>> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>> >>
>>> >> Email:
>>> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
>>> >> >Thanks for the explanations.
>>> >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Best
>>> >> >Yun Tang
>>> >> >
>>> >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
>>> >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
>>> >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
>>> >> at least give some background information.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on
>>> >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
>>> >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the
>>> >> end of Feb.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 此致！Best Regards
>>> >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Email:
>>> >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
>>> >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the
>>> >> incubator!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
>>> >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
>>> >> at least give some background information.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Best
>>> >> >> >Yun Tang
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
>>> >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
>>> >> get in
>>> >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
>>> >> version of
>>> >> >> >> > Impala.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
>>> >> planning are
>>> >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new
>>> >> features
>>> >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join ->
>>> >> inner join
>>> >> >> >> > [2], etc.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC,
>>> >> we found
>>> >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
>>> >> implemented.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many
>>> >> common
>>> >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
>>> >> functionality, with
>>> >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
>>> >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Email:
>>> >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> 写道：
>>> >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
>>> >> it's
>>> >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
>>> >> maven
>>> >> >> >> > >>release.
>>> >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
>>> >> java
>>> >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
>>> >> graduation.
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss
>>> >> it. I
>>> >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue.
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >--
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
>>> >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >Email:
>>> >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the
>>> >> community.
>>> >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
>>> >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
>>> >> get in
>>> >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
>>> >> it's
>>> >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
>>> >> maven
>>> >> >> >> > >>release.
>>> >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
>>> >> java
>>> >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
>>> >> graduation.
>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
>>> >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3
>>> >> years
>>> >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about
>>> >> open
>>> >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy
>>> >> on
>>> >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related
>>> >> to Doris'
>>> >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris
>>> >> project
>>> >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
>>> >> companies,
>>> >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC
>>> >> members),
>>> >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
>>> >> subscribers, and
>>> >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues
>>> >> have
>>> >> >> >> > been resolved.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
>>> >> Foundation
>>> >> >> >> > requirements[2].
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4]
>>> >> following
>>> >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving
>>> >> forward.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
>>> >> incubating[5][6]. I
>>> >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the
>>> >> mentors'
>>> >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version
>>> >> v0.7 and
>>> >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project
>>> >> (hands-on
>>> >> >> >> > code merge).
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to
>>> >> decouple the
>>> >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of
>>> >> abstract API.
>>> >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult
>>> >> to
>>> >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the
>>> >> Hadoop
>>> >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or
>>> >> DBMS system.
>>> >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the
>>> >> needs of
>>> >> >> >> > both projects.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has
>>> >> its own
>>> >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query
>>> >> layer with
>>> >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
>>> >> architectural
>>> >> >> >> > changes for this.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution
>>> >> engine that
>>> >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
>>> >> different from
>>> >> >> >> > Impala.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to
>>> >> follow
>>> >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
>>> >> compliant with
>>> >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship
>>> >> between
>>> >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and
>>> >> thank the
>>> >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
>>> >> original
>>> >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary
>>> >> discussion.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before
>>> >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [3]
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [4]
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [5]
>>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [6]
>>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [7]
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [8]
>>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> [9]
>>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> --
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
>>> >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>> >> >> >> > >>>
>>> >> >> >> > >>> Email:
>>> >> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> >> >> >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@doris.apache.org
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> >> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@doris.apache.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
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>>> >>
>>
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Re:Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Posted by 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com>.
Hi willem,
> We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
> to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
Do we need to ask each current PPMC member individually if they would like to join the Doris PMC?
I'm not sure how this kind of inquiry should go? For example, is there a formal email confirmation required?
I personally suggest that all current PPMC members can be invited to Doris PMC because they all contributed to the development of Doris.
And after that, everyone still has the right to choose whether to withdraw from the PMC.
--
此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
Email:
chenmingyu@apache.org
在 2022-04-02 10:36:59，"Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com> 写道：
>We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
>to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
>For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
>leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
>
>Willem Jiang
>
>Twitter: willemjiang
>Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
>On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss about it.
>> This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the nomination of the PMC Chair.
>> The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their project.
>> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
>>
>>
>> As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
>> During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
>>
>>
>> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
>> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
>> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>
>>
>> =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
>> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>>
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>> and analysis.
>>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>> further
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>> and be it further
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>>
>>
>> * Bin Ling <li...@apache.org>
>> * Bo Wang <wa...@apache.org>
>> * Chaoyong Li <li...@apache.org>
>> * Chun Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
>> * Conghui Cai <ca...@apache.org>
>> * Dayue Gao <ga...@apache.org>
>> * De Li <li...@apache.org>
>> * Hangyuan Liu <li...@apache.org>
>> * Hao Chen <ch...@apache.org>
>> * HaoPeng Li <li...@apache.org>
>> * Jiafeng Zhang <ji...@apache.org>
>> * Kaisen Kang <ka...@apache.org>
>> * Ling Miao <li...@apache.org>
>> * Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>
>> * Mingyu Chen <mo...@apache.org>
>> * Ruyue Ma <ma...@apache.org>
>> * Shao Feng Shi <sh...@apache.org>
>> * Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
>> * Willem Ning Jiang <ni...@apache.org>
>> * Zheng Shao <zs...@apache.org>
>> * Zhengguo Yang <ya...@apache.org>
>> * Zuo Wei <we...@apache.org>
>>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
>> the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
>> be it further
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> discharged.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 此致！Best Regards
>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>
>> Email:
>> chenmingyu@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <li...@apache.org> 写道：
>> >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
>> >
>> >What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at
>> >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
>> >
>> >Ling Miao
>> >
>> >陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
>> >
>> >> Hi All,
>> >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on suggestions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the
>> >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
>> >>
>> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
>> >>
>> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
>> >>
>> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
>> >> so that we can release these modules independently.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector components.
>> >>
>> >> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
>> >> 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now.
>> >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and
>> >> start a discussion at IPMC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> 此致！Best Regards
>> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >>
>> >> Email:
>> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
>> >> >Thanks for the explanations.
>> >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
>> >> >
>> >> >Best
>> >> >Yun Tang
>> >> >
>> >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
>> >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
>> >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
>> >> at least give some background information.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on
>> >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
>> >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the
>> >> end of Feb.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Email:
>> >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
>> >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the
>> >> incubator!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
>> >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
>> >> at least give some background information.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Best
>> >> >> >Yun Tang
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
>> >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
>> >> get in
>> >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
>> >> version of
>> >> >> >> > Impala.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
>> >> planning are
>> >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new
>> >> features
>> >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join ->
>> >> inner join
>> >> >> >> > [2], etc.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC,
>> >> we found
>> >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
>> >> implemented.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many
>> >> common
>> >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
>> >> functionality, with
>> >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Email:
>> >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> 写道：
>> >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
>> >> it's
>> >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
>> >> maven
>> >> >> >> > >>release.
>> >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
>> >> java
>> >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
>> >> graduation.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss
>> >> it. I
>> >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >--
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >Email:
>> >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the
>> >> community.
>> >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
>> >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
>> >> get in
>> >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
>> >> it's
>> >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
>> >> maven
>> >> >> >> > >>release.
>> >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
>> >> java
>> >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
>> >> graduation.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
>> >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3
>> >> years
>> >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about
>> >> open
>> >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy
>> >> on
>> >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related
>> >> to Doris'
>> >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris
>> >> project
>> >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
>> >> companies,
>> >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC
>> >> members),
>> >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
>> >> subscribers, and
>> >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues
>> >> have
>> >> >> >> > been resolved.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
>> >> Foundation
>> >> >> >> > requirements[2].
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4]
>> >> following
>> >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving
>> >> forward.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
>> >> incubating[5][6]. I
>> >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the
>> >> mentors'
>> >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version
>> >> v0.7 and
>> >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project
>> >> (hands-on
>> >> >> >> > code merge).
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to
>> >> decouple the
>> >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of
>> >> abstract API.
>> >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the
>> >> Hadoop
>> >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or
>> >> DBMS system.
>> >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the
>> >> needs of
>> >> >> >> > both projects.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has
>> >> its own
>> >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query
>> >> layer with
>> >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
>> >> architectural
>> >> >> >> > changes for this.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution
>> >> engine that
>> >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
>> >> different from
>> >> >> >> > Impala.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to
>> >> follow
>> >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
>> >> compliant with
>> >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship
>> >> between
>> >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and
>> >> thank the
>> >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
>> >> original
>> >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary
>> >> discussion.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before
>> >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [3]
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [4]
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [5]
>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [6]
>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [7]
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [8]
>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> [9]
>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> --
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
>> >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>> >> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> Email:
>> >> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@doris.apache.org
>> >> >> >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@doris.apache.org
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@doris.apache.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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>> >>
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Re: Re: Re: Re:Re: Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as a TLP
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
We need to ask the confirmation of the PPMC Members who want to switch
to Doris PMC first before starting the vote.
For the PMC Chair, I'm a big +1 for Mingyu, as he did a good job as a
leader during the incubation process of Apache Doris.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have drafted a Resolution of Doris project. And review and discuss about it.
> This Resolution contains the list of initial PMC members and the nomination of the PMC Chair.
> The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their project.
> PMC chairs are expected to subscribe to the board@ mailing list, and be aware of any board concerns about the project, and are responsible for working with the PMC as a whole to address any board concerns.
>
>
> As for PMC Chair candidate, I would like to be a volunteer.
> During incubation, I have been helping the community to grow and push things forward. I would like to continue contributing and engaging other ones to get involved and help build Apache Doris a better community.
>
>
> Please checkout [1] [2] to know more about PMC and PMC Chairs and you are
> welcomed to take part in this discussion so that we can start our vote soon.
>
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#legal
> [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>
>
> =========== Resolution of Doris Project ===========
> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> and analysis.
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
> and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>
>
> * Bin Ling <li...@apache.org>
> * Bo Wang <wa...@apache.org>
> * Chaoyong Li <li...@apache.org>
> * Chun Zhao <zh...@apache.org>
> * Conghui Cai <ca...@apache.org>
> * Dayue Gao <ga...@apache.org>
> * De Li <li...@apache.org>
> * Hangyuan Liu <li...@apache.org>
> * Hao Chen <ch...@apache.org>
> * HaoPeng Li <li...@apache.org>
> * Jiafeng Zhang <ji...@apache.org>
> * Kaisen Kang <ka...@apache.org>
> * Ling Miao <li...@apache.org>
> * Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>
> * Mingyu Chen <mo...@apache.org>
> * Ruyue Ma <ma...@apache.org>
> * Shao Feng Shi <sh...@apache.org>
> * Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org>
> * Willem Ning Jiang <ni...@apache.org>
> * Zheng Shao <zs...@apache.org>
> * Zhengguo Yang <ya...@apache.org>
> * Zuo Wei <we...@apache.org>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
> the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
> be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> discharged.
>
>
>
> --
>
> 此致！Best Regards
> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
> Email:
> chenmingyu@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
> 在 2022-03-31 14:47:42，"ling miao" <li...@apache.org> 写道：
> >Very happy to see that we are one step closer to graduation.
> >
> >What preparations are we missing before launching a community discussion at
> >IPMC? Or can we just start a discussion at IPMC directly?
> >
> >Ling Miao
> >
> >陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年3月29日周二 20:23写道：
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >> Since the last discussion, we have done the following based on suggestions.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Split flink-connector, spark-connector, and doris-mananger from the
> >> Doris repo into three separate repo.
> >>
> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-manager
> >>
> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-flink-connector
> >>
> >> - https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris-spark-connector
> >> so that we can release these modules independently.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2. finished releasing both spark-connector and flink-connector components.
> >>
> >> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gql1xorqs1smlq5o3jxfjgnzfh4woh2z
> >> 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdhym3pv15265dlssc8knsn3bomnpmzj
> >>
> >>
> >> 3. Binary release of Doris core 1.0.0 is being voted on at IPMC.
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/y2plp5gwl2cpk54jb4g2myfn91s6q7yt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think we can continue the discussion about Doris graduation issues now.
> >> If there are no other comments, I will start preparing the Resolution and
> >> start a discussion at IPMC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> 此致！Best Regards
> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >>
> >> Email:
> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 在 2022-02-10 15:01:27，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
> >> >Thanks for the explanations.
> >> >+ 1 for starting the graduation process.
> >> >
> >> >Best
> >> >Yun Tang
> >> >
> >> >On 2022/02/10 04:41:43 陈明雨 wrote:
> >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
> >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
> >> at least give some background information.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, they were discussed in private@doris list. It is about "doris" on
> >> Baidu Cloud, "dorisdb" and "cdwdoris" on Tecent Cloud.
> >> >> The first 2 has been solved, and the "cdwdoris" will be solved at the
> >> end of Feb.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> 此致！Best Regards
> >> >> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >> >>
> >> >> Email:
> >> >> chenmingyu@apache.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 在 2022-02-10 11:23:33，"Yun Tang" <ta...@apache.org> 写道：
> >> >> >It's great to see the discussion on Apache Doris' graduation from the
> >> incubator!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >For the branding issues, I found I cannot open the thread links. Are
> >> they private threads? If this discussion thread is public, maybe we could
> >> at least give some background information.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Best
> >> >> >Yun Tang
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On 2022/02/10 01:20:25 寒江雪 wrote:
> >> >> >> +1. I think we can get started on the graduation process.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> 于2022年2月9日周三 22:26写道：
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > >For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
> >> get in
> >> >> >> > >touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.Before entering
> >> the
> >> >> >> > apache incubator, Doris was developed based on a very early
> >> version of
> >> >> >> > Impala.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In order to adapt to Doris' architecture (both metadata and
> >> planning are
> >> >> >> > in FE), we have made many changes.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > After entering the apache incubator, we try to give back some new
> >> features
> >> >> >> > to the Impala community including Grouping set [1], left join ->
> >> inner join
> >> >> >> > [2], etc.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Although we raised tickets, after communicating with Impala PMC,
> >> we found
> >> >> >> > that new features we wanted to give back to Impala have been
> >> implemented.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So in the end there is no substantial code contribution.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many
> >> common
> >> >> >> > SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
> >> functionality, with
> >> >> >> > significant differences at the code level.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-9298
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-11074
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 此致！Best Regards
> >> >> >> > 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Email:
> >> >> >> > chenmingyu@apache.org
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 在 2022-02-09 14:43:10，"陈明雨" <mo...@163.com> 写道：
> >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
> >> it's
> >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
> >> maven
> >> >> >> > >>release.
> >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
> >> java
> >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> >> graduation.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Thanks for you suggestion. I will start a new thread to discuss
> >> it. I
> >> >> >> > think creating a new repo is a good way to address this issue.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >--
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >此致！Best Regards
> >> >> >> > >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Email:
> >> >> >> > >chenmingyu@apache.org
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >At 2022-02-08 20:44:25, "Willem Jiang" <wi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>It is good to see Doris did lots of work on building up the
> >> community.
> >> >> >> > >>The brand issues were addressed last year.
> >> >> >> > >>For the relationship of the Impala project, I think we need to
> >> get in
> >> >> >> > >>touch with the Impala team to get more feedback.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>I just want to mention about the recent release of Java code,
> >> it's
> >> >> >> > >>better to add another git repo to host the java code for the
> >> maven
> >> >> >> > >>release.
> >> >> >> > >>It doesn't make any sense that we have different tags for the
> >> java
> >> >> >> > >>code release. I'd like to see this issue addressed before
> >> graduation.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>Willem Jiang
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>Twitter: willemjiang
> >> >> >> > >>Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:09 PM 陈明雨 <mo...@163.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Hi all.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Apache Doris (Incubating) has been in development for over 3
> >> years
> >> >> >> > since it entered the Apache incubator in September 2018.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> During our time in the Incubator, we have learned a lot about
> >> open
> >> >> >> > source software governance and the Apache Foundation's philosophy
> >> on
> >> >> >> > managing, maintaining, and developing open source community.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> I am pleased to conduct a discussion here on matters related
> >> to Doris'
> >> >> >> > graduation from the incubator.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris
> >> project
> >> >> >> > and community since entering the incubator.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Community
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - 8 new PPMC members were added, from five different
> >> companies,
> >> >> >> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 21.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - 16 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC
> >> members),
> >> >> >> > bringing the total number of Committers to 29.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - The number of Contributors is now 245 and growing.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 289
> >> subscribers, and
> >> >> >> > all major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Project
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues
> >> have
> >> >> >> > been resolved.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - Doris official website[1] is compliant with Apache
> >> Foundation
> >> >> >> > requirements[2].
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [3].
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[4]
> >> following
> >> >> >> > the Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving
> >> forward.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Some things that I think need further discussion.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Branding issue
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Doris had some branding issues during the
> >> incubating[5][6]. I
> >> >> >> > think these issues have been resolved and would appreciate the
> >> mentors'
> >> >> >> > assistance in checking them out.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Relationship with Apache Impala
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version
> >> v0.7 and
> >> >> >> > has been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project
> >> (hands-on
> >> >> >> > code merge).
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> In the Doris Proposal [7], we expressed our desire to
> >> decouple the
> >> >> >> > Doris storage engine from the query engine through a layer of
> >> abstract API.
> >> >> >> > So that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult
> >> to
> >> >> >> > achieve this goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the
> >> Hadoop
> >> >> >> > ecosystem, while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or
> >> DBMS system.
> >> >> >> > The difference of targets means that many features do not meet the
> >> needs of
> >> >> >> > both projects.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has
> >> its own
> >> >> >> > storage engine. This required a deep integration of the query
> >> layer with
> >> >> >> > the metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of
> >> architectural
> >> >> >> > changes for this.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution
> >> engine that
> >> >> >> > rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is
> >> different from
> >> >> >> > Impala.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to
> >> follow
> >> >> >> > the Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully
> >> compliant with
> >> >> >> > the Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship
> >> between
> >> >> >> > Doris and Impala in the NOTICE file[8] and the README file[9] and
> >> thank the
> >> >> >> > Impala community for their help.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Since this aspect deviates from the direction in the
> >> original
> >> >> >> > Proposal, I think it needs to be listed separately for necessary
> >> discussion.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> If there are any other aspects that need to be discussed before
> >> >> >> > graduation, please discuss.
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [1] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [2] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [3]
> >> >> >> >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [4]
> >> >> >> >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [5]
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [6]
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/t6dwq77x0jjm63kpkzlq51sfbowd92p9
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [7]
> >> >> >> >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [8]
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> [9]
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> --
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> 此致！Best Regards
> >> >> >> > >>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >> > >>> Email:
> >> >> >> > >>> chenmingyu@apache.org
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >
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