Back to square one with James

[Tom Dietz <to...@glis.net>]

In my attempt to see if James is suitable for a basic mail forwarding
agent (in loose terms), I have run into nothing but problems in getting
just the simplest configurations running.  It appears the docs on the
James site are (1) horribly outdated and (2) horribly written (big
gaping holes in what should be explained to someone who has absolutely
ZERO experience with James).  I ignored most of this and pressed on, but
still cannot get my forwarding agent to work.  So I thought I would try
a very simple mail server.    

 

Going without any directions except for (Once you have some local users
registered-taken from the main site), I tried to create a simple server
with one user: tom.

 

Could someone please tell me what is needed (specifics, not just --- go
download the binary and run it).  It seems there are specific XML
configuration entries that must be made in order for the server to work,
because I can't get a simple email message sent from my local machine
(to my local machine).

 

Thanks, I really don't want to give up on James and move to something
like sendmail, I like the idea of James and Java, but it's proving to be
very complicated.

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

RE: Back to square one with James

[Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>]

It depends what version you are using, the docs are for the current stable release, 2.0a3 not for the forthcoming and widely previewed 2.1
d.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Dietz [mailto:tom@glis.net]
> Sent: 09 December 2002 03:32
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Back to square one with James
> 
> 
> In my attempt to see if James is suitable for a basic mail forwarding
> agent (in loose terms), I have run into nothing but problems in getting
> just the simplest configurations running.  It appears the docs on the
> James site are (1) horribly outdated and (2) horribly written (big
> gaping holes in what should be explained to someone who has absolutely
> ZERO experience with James).  I ignored most of this and pressed on, but
> still cannot get my forwarding agent to work.  So I thought I would try
> a very simple mail server.    
> 
>  
> 
> Going without any directions except for (Once you have some local users
> registered-taken from the main site), I tried to create a simple server
> with one user: tom.
> 
>  
> 
> Could someone please tell me what is needed (specifics, not just --- go
> download the binary and run it).  It seems there are specific XML
> configuration entries that must be made in order for the server to work,
> because I can't get a simple email message sent from my local machine
> (to my local machine).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, I really don't want to give up on James and move to something
> like sendmail, I like the idea of James and Java, but it's proving to be
> very complicated.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Tom
> 
> 


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RE: Back to square one with James

["Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>]

Tom,

> It appears the docs on the James site are (1) horribly outdated and (2)
> horribly written (big gaping holes in what should be explained to
> someone who has absolutely ZERO experience with James).

There is a lot of work going on right now with respect to the documentation.
A "beta" version is available at http://jakarta.apache.org/~pgoldstein/.
Please take a look, and let us know what you think.

> still cannot get my forwarding agent to work.  So
> I thought I would try a very simple mail server.

You need to go through CONFIG.XML and follow the instructions that are
embedded within that file.

> Thanks, I really don't want to give up on James and move to something
> like sendmail, I like the idea of James and Java, but it's proving to
> be very complicated.

If you think that James is complicated, you'll go bald dealing with
sendmail.  It is a nightmare.

James is really easy.  But if you are having problems getting started,
that's OK ... kind of ... because it means that you can help us get the docs
right for you and for the next person.

	--- Noel


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