[legal] legal issues

[Jose Antonio Pla <jp...@gmail.com>]

Hello

I'm using java for a couple of years, and recently I've found this
project and I'm really interested in it. I've a question, the sun's
implementation of java are limited by US's export law, and does not
permit it use in a couple of countries. The question is, this project
has this limitation too?

regards

jpla2005

Re: [legal] legal issues

[Jose Antonio Pla <jp...@gmail.com>]

Ok Alexei, thanks for you answer

regards

jpla2005


2009/1/18, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>:
> Hello Jose Antonio,
>
> You may find required clarifications here:
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/
>
> My understanding of US export restrictions is following:
> 1. Nationals of Cuba, Iran, and North Korea have no legal right to use
> anything. The good thing about this is that most of them don't care
> anyway. Note, that the law talks about nationals, not countries.
> 2. Included encryption software is controlled differently.
>
> I believe Sun's product is a subject of the same restrictions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Jose Antonio Pla <jp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I'm using java for a couple of years, and recently I've found this
>> project and I'm really interested in it. I've a question, the sun's
>> implementation of java are limited by US's export law, and does not
>> permit it use in a couple of countries. The question is, this project
>> has this limitation too?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> jpla2005
>>
>

Re: [legal] legal issues

[Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>]

Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> Hello Jose Antonio,
> 
> You may find required clarifications here:
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/

IANAL, but I think that's right.  Harmony is classified as ECCN 5D002
which attracts an exception as open source code.  The particularly
relevant paragraph from that page being:

   Products classified as ECCN 5D002, are exported by the ASF under
   the TSU exception in EAR 740.13(e), which applies to software
   containing or designed for use with encryption software that is
   publicly available as open source. Exception TSU further provides
   that "Posting encryption source code and corresponding object code
   on the Internet (e.g., FTP or World Wide Web site) where it may be
   downloaded by anyone neither establishes "knowledge" of a prohibited
   export or reexport for purposes of this paragraph, nor triggers any
   "red flags" necessitating the affirmative duty to inquire[...]" Note
   that exporters other than the ASF within the US may or may not be
   eligable for exception TSU, and it is each specific exporter's
   responsibility to understand and comply with all export regulations
   applicable within their jurisdiction.


But read the whole page, and check with somebody qualified to give you
such advice.

Regards,
Tim

Re: [legal] legal issues

[Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>]

Hello Jose Antonio,

You may find required clarifications here:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/

My understanding of US export restrictions is following:
1. Nationals of Cuba, Iran, and North Korea have no legal right to use
anything. The good thing about this is that most of them don't care
anyway. Note, that the law talks about nationals, not countries.
2. Included encryption software is controlled differently.

I believe Sun's product is a subject of the same restrictions.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Jose Antonio Pla <jp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm using java for a couple of years, and recently I've found this
> project and I'm really interested in it. I've a question, the sun's
> implementation of java are limited by US's export law, and does not
> permit it use in a couple of countries. The question is, this project
> has this limitation too?
>
> regards
>
> jpla2005
>