I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Martin van den Bemt <mv...@mvdb.com>]

Is something wrong on the maillinglist??

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Milt Epstein <me...@uiuc.edu>]

On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

> Isn't there something like a mailinglist manager, who can delete
> entries from the mailinglist ?

Yes.  But how does that help if they don't know what entry/address to
delete?  The problem is determining the bad subscribed address from
the bounced address, and that isn't always so easy to do.

This has come up before.


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:40 PM
> > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> >
> > > For the sake of solving this ;-)) (will deliver me 2 more of those
> > > e-mails).  I attach it again (the first message about this to the
> > > maillinglist contained the attachments).
> >
> > I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.
> >
> > It's not clear at all that this is going to solve anything.
> >
> > Everyone knows what the bad addresses are -- I and everyone else who
> > posts to the lists gets those bounce messages.  And most likely the
> > list owners/managers do as well.  The point is, just knowing the bad
> > addresses doesn't necessarily help.  The people whose bad addresses
> > those are may be subscribed with totally different addresses.  So it
> > may be difficult or impossible to figure out from those bad addresses
> > the corresponding subscribed addresses to remove from the list so that
> > those bounces will stop.
> >
> > For example, suppose a@b.c is subcribed to the list.  But because of
> > address changes/canonicalization/forwarding/relaying/whatever, the
> > actual receiving address is d@e.f.  Now suppose that mail to that
> > address bounces for some reason or other.  When that bounce comes in
> > saying d@e.f is a bad address, how are you going to know to remove
> > a@b.c?
> >
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:27 PM
> > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....
> > > >
> > > > Attached it where?
> > > >
> > > > In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
> > > > that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
> > > > address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
> > > > reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
> > > > different than the one they originally signed up with.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people
> > who signed up
> > > > > > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just
> > stopped using
> > > > > > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > > > > > list pays the price.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > > > > > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > > > > > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not
> > match up to
> > > > > > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > > > > > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so
> > easy to find
> > > > > > the address to remove from the list.
[ ... ]

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein@uiuc.edu

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Martin van den Bemt <mv...@mvdb.com>]

Isn't there something like a mailinglist manager, who can delete entries
from the mailinglist ?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:40 PM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
>
> > For the sake of solving this ;-)) (will deliver me 2 more of those
> > e-mails).  I attach it again (the first message about this to the
> > maillinglist contained the attachments).
>
> I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.
>
> It's not clear at all that this is going to solve anything.
>
> Everyone knows what the bad addresses are -- I and everyone else who
> posts to the lists gets those bounce messages.  And most likely the
> list owners/managers do as well.  The point is, just knowing the bad
> addresses doesn't necessarily help.  The people whose bad addresses
> those are may be subscribed with totally different addresses.  So it
> may be difficult or impossible to figure out from those bad addresses
> the corresponding subscribed addresses to remove from the list so that
> those bounces will stop.
>
> For example, suppose a@b.c is subcribed to the list.  But because of
> address changes/canonicalization/forwarding/relaying/whatever, the
> actual receiving address is d@e.f.  Now suppose that mail to that
> address bounces for some reason or other.  When that bounce comes in
> saying d@e.f is a bad address, how are you going to know to remove
> a@b.c?
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:27 PM
> > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > >
> > > > I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....
> > >
> > > Attached it where?
> > >
> > > In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
> > > that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
> > > address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
> > > reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
> > > different than the one they originally signed up with.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people
> who signed up
> > > > > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just
> stopped using
> > > > > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > > > > list pays the price.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > > > > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > > > > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not
> match up to
> > > > > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > > > > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so
> easy to find
> > > > > the address to remove from the list.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so
> they can remove
> > > > > > that email?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kyle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and
> that's a lot
> > > > > > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by
> > > someone.. (it's not
> > > > > > mine...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mvgr,
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists
> already...
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> > > > > > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Milt Epstein
> > > > > Research Programmer
> > > > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > > > mepstein@uiuc.edu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Milt Epstein
> > > Research Programmer
> > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > mepstein@uiuc.edu
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Milt Epstein
> Research Programmer
> Software/Systems Development Group
> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> mepstein@uiuc.edu
>
>

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Milt Epstein <me...@uiuc.edu>]

On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

> For the sake of solving this ;-)) (will deliver me 2 more of those
> e-mails).  I attach it again (the first message about this to the
> maillinglist contained the attachments).

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.

It's not clear at all that this is going to solve anything.

Everyone knows what the bad addresses are -- I and everyone else who
posts to the lists gets those bounce messages.  And most likely the
list owners/managers do as well.  The point is, just knowing the bad
addresses doesn't necessarily help.  The people whose bad addresses
those are may be subscribed with totally different addresses.  So it
may be difficult or impossible to figure out from those bad addresses
the corresponding subscribed addresses to remove from the list so that
those bounces will stop.

For example, suppose a@b.c is subcribed to the list.  But because of
address changes/canonicalization/forwarding/relaying/whatever, the
actual receiving address is d@e.f.  Now suppose that mail to that
address bounces for some reason or other.  When that bounce comes in
saying d@e.f is a bad address, how are you going to know to remove
a@b.c?


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:27 PM
> > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> >
> > > I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....
> >
> > Attached it where?
> >
> > In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
> > that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
> > address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
> > reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
> > different than the one they originally signed up with.
> >
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> > > > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> > > > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > > > list pays the price.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > > > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > > > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
> > > > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > > > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
> > > > the address to remove from the list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> > > > > that email?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyle
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> > > > > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by
> > someone.. (it's not
> > > > > mine...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Mvgr,
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> > > > > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > > > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Milt Epstein
> > > > Research Programmer
> > > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > > mepstein@uiuc.edu
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Milt Epstein
> > Research Programmer
> > Software/Systems Development Group
> > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > mepstein@uiuc.edu
> >
> >
>

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein@uiuc.edu

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Martin van den Bemt <mv...@mvdb.com>]

For the sake of solving this ;-)) (will deliver me 2 more of those e-mails).
I attach it again (the first message about this to the maillinglist
contained the attachments).


Mvgr,
Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:27 PM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
>
> > I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....
>
> Attached it where?
>
> In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
> that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
> address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
> reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
> different than the one they originally signed up with.
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> > > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> > > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > > list pays the price.
> > >
> > > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
> > > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
> > > the address to remove from the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> > > > that email?
> > > >
> > > > Kyle
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> > > > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by
> someone.. (it's not
> > > > mine...)
> > > >
> > > > Mvgr,
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> > > > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Milt Epstein
> > > Research Programmer
> > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > mepstein@uiuc.edu
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Milt Epstein
> Research Programmer
> Software/Systems Development Group
> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> mepstein@uiuc.edu
>
>

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Milt Epstein <me...@uiuc.edu>]

On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:

> I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....

Attached it where?

In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
different than the one they originally signed up with.


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> >
> > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > list pays the price.
> >
> > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
> > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
> > the address to remove from the list.
> >
> >
> > > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> > > that email?
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> > > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by someone.. (it's not
> > > mine...)
> > >
> > > Mvgr,
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> > > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Milt Epstein
> > Research Programmer
> > Software/Systems Development Group
> > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > mepstein@uiuc.edu
> >
> >
>

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein@uiuc.edu

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Martin van den Bemt <mv...@mvdb.com>]

I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:mepstein@uiuc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
>
> > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> > for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > list pays the price.
>
> I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
> any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
> the address to remove from the list.
>
>
> > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> > that email?
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by someone.. (it's not
> > mine...)
> >
> > Mvgr,
> > Martin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> Milt Epstein
> Research Programmer
> Software/Systems Development Group
> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> mepstein@uiuc.edu
>
>

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Milt Epstein <me...@uiuc.edu>]

On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:

> I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> list pays the price.

I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
the address to remove from the list.


> Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> that email?
>
> Kyle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by someone.. (it's not
> mine...)
>
> Mvgr,
> Martin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > >
> >
>

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein@uiuc.edu

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Kyle Burke <bu...@mediaone.net>]

I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up for the
list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using it.  It gets shut
off because it's neglected and everyone on the list pays the price.

Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove that
email?

Kyle

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...


It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by someone.. (it's not
mine...)

Mvgr,
Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> >
> >
>
>

RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Martin van den Bemt <mv...@mvdb.com>]

It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by someone.. (it's not
mine...)

Mvgr,
Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guido Medina [mailto:guido@ns2.iiac.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
> To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> >
> >
>
>

Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

[Guido Medina <gu...@ns2.iiac.net>]

Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin van den Bemt" <mv...@mvdb.com>
To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...


> Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> 
>