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[GitHub] [flink] Myasuka opened a new pull request #14175: [FLINK-20288][docs] Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained

Myasuka opened a new pull request #14175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/14175


   ## What is the purpose of the change
   
    Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained
   
   
   
   ## Verifying this change
   
   This change is a trivial rework / code cleanup without any test coverage.
   
   ## Does this pull request potentially affect one of the following parts:
   
     - Dependencies (does it add or upgrade a dependency):  no
     - The public API, i.e., is any changed class annotated with `@Public(Evolving)`:  no
     - The serializers:  no
     - The runtime per-record code paths (performance sensitive):  no
     - Anything that affects deployment or recovery: JobManager (and its components), Checkpointing, Kubernetes/Yarn/Mesos, ZooKeeper:  no
     - The S3 file system connector:  no
   
   ## Documentation
   
     - Does this pull request introduce a new feature?  no
     - If yes, how is the feature documented? not applicable
   


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[GitHub] [flink] klion26 commented on pull request #14175: [FLINK-20288][docs] Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
klion26 commented on pull request #14175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/14175#issuecomment-735047044


   @Myasuka thanks for your contribution, maybe this is duplicated with FLINK-19381/[PR](https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/13488) ?


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[GitHub] [flink] carp84 commented on pull request #14175: [FLINK-20288][docs] Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
carp84 commented on pull request #14175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/14175#issuecomment-735533931


   @klion26 I think you're right, this PR duplicates #13488 . Please check out Stephan's comments and address them in #13488 as well, thanks.
   
   @Myasuka @StephanEwen I'm closing this PR and let's further track it in #13488 , thanks.


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[GitHub] [flink] carp84 closed pull request #14175: [FLINK-20288][docs] Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
carp84 closed pull request #14175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/14175


   


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[GitHub] [flink] StephanEwen commented on a change in pull request #14175: [FLINK-20288][docs] Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
StephanEwen commented on a change in pull request #14175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/14175#discussion_r532205583



##########
File path: docs/ops/state/savepoints.md
##########
@@ -110,13 +110,8 @@ For example with a `FsStateBackend` or `RocksDBStateBackend`:
 /savepoints/savepoint-:shortjobid-:savepointid/...
 {% endhighlight %}
 
-<div class="alert alert-info">
-  <strong>Note:</strong>
-Although it looks as if the savepoints may be moved, it is currently not possible due to absolute paths in the <code>_metadata</code> file.
-Please follow <a href="https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-5778">FLINK-5778</a> for progress on lifting this restriction.
-</div>
-
-Note that if you use the `MemoryStateBackend`, metadata *and* savepoint state will be stored in the `_metadata` file. Since it is self-contained, you may move the file and restore from any location.
+Note that if you use the `MemoryStateBackend`, metadata *and* savepoint state will be stored in the `_metadata` file. 

Review comment:
       What do you think about changing this to:
   
   ```
   Savepoints can generally be moved by moving (or copying) the entire savepoint directory to a different location, and Flink will be able to restore from the moved savepoint.
   
   <div class="alert alert-warning">An exception to that is if *entropy injection* is activated: In that case the savepoint directory will not contain all savepoint data files, because the injected path entropy spreads the files over many directories. Lacking a common savepoint root directory, the savepoints will contain absolute path references, which prevent moving the directory.</div>
   
   <div class="alert alert-warning">Unlike savepoints, checkpoints cannot generally be moved to a different location, because checkpoints may include some absolute path references.</div>
   
   If you use the `MemoryStateBackend`, metadata *and* savepoint state will be stored in the `_metadata` file, so don't be confused by the absence of additional data files.
   ```
   
   I would drop the reference to a closed JIRA issue here, users should not feel like they need to look into the bug tracker to understand a feature.

##########
File path: docs/ops/state/savepoints.md
##########
@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ When triggering a savepoint, a new savepoint directory is created where the data
 <strong>Attention:</strong> The target directory has to be a location accessible by both the JobManager(s) and TaskManager(s) e.g. a location on a distributed file-system.

Review comment:
       Can we change this to "...location on a distributed file-system or Object Store." ?




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[GitHub] [flink] Myasuka commented on pull request #14175: [FLINK-20288][docs] Correct documentation about savepoint self-contained

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Myasuka commented on pull request #14175:
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/14175#issuecomment-734743889


   @klion26 , could you please take a view on this?


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