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Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
I don’t know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry Pi. I’ve been using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power. Asus, Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are in good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can upgrade to 4GB RAM for ~ $15.
Robert
On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>
>
>
> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a Raspberry
> Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the web.
>
>
>
> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic (mostly
> Junk email).
>
>
>
> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I assume
> will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that using MySQL will
> off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>
>
>
> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
I plan on it.
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To: server-user@james.apache.org
Subject: AW: Minimum Platform Requirements?
why not at least use the rpi2 with 4 cores, 1 GB RAM, etc...at the same
price than the old rpi 1?
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. Februar 2015 03:26
An: 'James Users List'
Betreff: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Thanks Robert.
I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to re-task/mix
tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core) will make it
easier for me at the moment.
I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will also
help.
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB RAM
would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox with
HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry Pi. I've been
using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few years, they are small,
quiet and consume very little power. Asus, Zotac, and many other brands
offer these machines, and they are in good supply new or used. If you keep
it on Windows, you can upgrade to 4GB RAM for ~ $15.
Robert
On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>
>
>
> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the web.
>
>
>
> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
> (mostly Junk email).
>
>
>
> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that using
> MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>
>
>
> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
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AW: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Mi...@t-systems.com.
why not at least use the rpi2 with 4 cores, 1 GB RAM, etc...at the same price than the old rpi 1?
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Michael Eisele
T-Systems International GmbH
Delivery / CSS / GCU Automotive & Finance / Industry 1
Business Connect Services
E-Mail: michael.eisele@t-systems.com
Internet: http://www.t-systems.de
T-Systems International GmbH
Aufsichtsrat: Thomas Dannenfeldt (Vorsitzender)
Geschäftsführung: Reinhard Clemens (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ferri Abolhassan, Thilo Kusch, Dr. Markus Müller, Georg Pepping, Hagen Rickmann
Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main HRB 55933
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Von: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. Februar 2015 03:26
An: 'James Users List'
Betreff: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Thanks Robert.
I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core) will make it easier for me at the moment.
I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will also help.
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power. Asus, Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are in good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can upgrade to 4GB RAM for ~ $15.
Robert
On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>
>
>
> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the web.
>
>
>
> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
> (mostly Junk email).
>
>
>
> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that using
> MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>
>
>
> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
I used this link from the Apache James site:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/current/
And ended with this:
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time: 57:30.135s
[INFO] Finished at: Sun Feb 01 20:19:10 CST 2015
[INFO] Final Memory: 84M/202M
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin:2.13:test (default-test) on
project apache-james-mailbox-lucene: There are test failures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
Test set:
org.apache.james.mailbox.lucene.search.LuceneMessageSearchIndexTest
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---
Tests run: 44, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 27.55 sec
<<< FAILURE!
testSearchInternalDateAfter(org.apache.james.mailbox.lucene.search.LuceneMes
sageSearchIndexTest) Time elapsed: 0.49 sec <<< ERROR!
java.util.NoSuchElementException: null
at
java.util.LinkedHashMap$LinkedHashIterator.nextNode(LinkedHashMap.java:713)
at
java.util.LinkedHashMap$LinkedKeyIterator.next(LinkedHashMap.java:734)
at
org.apache.james.mailbox.lucene.search.LuceneMessageSearchIndexTest.testSear
chInternalDateAfter(LuceneMessageSearchIndexTest.java:343)
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 7:02 PM
To: 'James Users List'
Subject: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Robert,
What's the correct/current URL to use for James?
This is what is in your video (if I'm reading it right):
http://svn.apache.org/respos/asf/james/server/trunk/
But, the page doesn't exist.
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:52 PM
To: 'James Users List'
Subject: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Great. Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:49 PM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James can run
with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are going to be able
to dedicate to the application unless you have stripped the OS install down
to the bones. If you decide to give it a try, please post your findings back
to the list for others' benefit. If you want to run James, I suggest
building it from source. There is a post on my blog here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-with-ecl
ipse
That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has provided
some written instructions for the build process, also linked from my blog,
here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apac
he-james-v3-with-eclipse
On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Thanks Robert.
>
> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to
> re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core)
> will make it easier for me at the moment.
>
> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will
> also help.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB
> RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>
> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
> considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox
> with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry
> Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few
> years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power. Asus,
> Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are in
> good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can upgrade to
> 4GB
RAM for ~ $15.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the
web.
>>
>>
>>
>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>> (mostly Junk email).
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that
>> using MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>
>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:04 AM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
There is a typo, try this:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk/
On Feb 1, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> What's the correct/current URL to use for James?
>
> This is what is in your video (if I'm reading it right):
>
> http://svn.apache.org/respos/asf/james/server/trunk/
>
> But, the page doesn't exist.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:52 PM
> To: 'James Users List'
> Subject: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> Great. Thanks!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:49 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James
> can run with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are
> going to be able to dedicate to the application unless you have
> stripped the OS install down to the bones. If you decide to give it a
> try, please post your findings back to the list for others' benefit.
> If you want to run James, I suggest building it from source. There is a
post on my blog here:
>
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-wi
> th-ecl
> ipse
>
> That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has
> provided some written instructions for the build process, also linked
> from my blog,
> here:
>
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compilin
> g-apac
> he-james-v3-with-eclipse
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Robert.
>>
>> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to
>> re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same
>> (core) will make it easier for me at the moment.
>>
>> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will
>> also help.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
>> To: James Users List
>> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>>
>> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB
>> RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>>
>> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have
>> you considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus
>> eeeBox with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a
>> Raspberry Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for
>> a few years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power.
>> Asus, Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are
>> in good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can
>> upgrade to 4GB
> RAM for ~ $15.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on
>>> the
> web.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>>> (mostly Junk email).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that
>>> using MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
Yes, much better :)
[INFO] Apache James :: Server ............................ SUCCESS [36.652s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: API ............ SUCCESS [58.100s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Lifecycle API ........... SUCCESS [9.845s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Filesystem API .......... SUCCESS [28.043s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mailetcontainer API ..... SUCCESS [11.013s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Common Utilities ........ SUCCESS [30.426s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Protocols Library ....... SUCCESS [27.006s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Core .................... SUCCESS [22.882s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Container Spring ........ SUCCESS
[1:03.995s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Client .................. SUCCESS [31.717s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: DNS Service :: API ...... SUCCESS [11.958s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: DNS Service :: Library .. SUCCESS [12.659s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mail Queue :: API ....... SUCCESS [11.804s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mailetcontainer Camel ... SUCCESS [35.056s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mailbox Adapter ......... SUCCESS [21.262s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: DNS Service :: Implementation SUCCESS
[11.802s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: Library ......... SUCCESS [21.232s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: LDAP Implementation SUCCESS
[10.695s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: SMTP .................... SUCCESS [54.297s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: IMAP .................... SUCCESS [19.716s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: LMTP .................... SUCCESS [25.032s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: POP3 .................... SUCCESS [24.491s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: FetchMail ............... SUCCESS [15.891s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mail Queue :: File ...... SUCCESS [15.189s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mail Queue :: JMS ....... SUCCESS [26.472s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mail Queue :: ActiveMQ .. SUCCESS [25.252s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Mailets ................. SUCCESS [54.790s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: File Persistence SUCCESS [26.919s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: JPA Persistence . SUCCESS [34.841s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: JDBC Persistence SUCCESS [20.827s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: HBase Persistence SUCCESS
[1:21.442s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: Data :: JCR Persistence . SUCCESS [19.723s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Server :: App ..................... SUCCESS
[6:38.745s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Karaf :: Features ................. SUCCESS [3.256s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Karaf :: James Server ............. SUCCESS
[2:39.625s]
[INFO] Apache James :: Karaf :: Integration tests ........ SUCCESS
[1:05.665s]
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time: 26:01.933s
[INFO] Finished at: Mon Feb 02 11:46:00 CST 2015
[INFO] Final Memory: 72M/172M
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
There's a new Raspberry Pi with 1GB RAM and a faster CPU (for the same
price), so I've got a better chance with that update...
I'll continue deployment on this device until the v2 rPi shows up stateside
(only available for purchase in the UK at the moment).
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:04 AM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
There is a typo, try this:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk/
On Feb 1, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> What's the correct/current URL to use for James?
>
> This is what is in your video (if I'm reading it right):
>
> http://svn.apache.org/respos/asf/james/server/trunk/
>
> But, the page doesn't exist.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:52 PM
> To: 'James Users List'
> Subject: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> Great. Thanks!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:49 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James
> can run with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are
> going to be able to dedicate to the application unless you have
> stripped the OS install down to the bones. If you decide to give it a
> try, please post your findings back to the list for others' benefit.
> If you want to run James, I suggest building it from source. There is a
post on my blog here:
>
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-wi
> th-ecl
> ipse
>
> That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has
> provided some written instructions for the build process, also linked
> from my blog,
> here:
>
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compilin
> g-apac
> he-james-v3-with-eclipse
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Robert.
>>
>> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to
>> re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same
>> (core) will make it easier for me at the moment.
>>
>> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will
>> also help.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
>> To: James Users List
>> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>>
>> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB
>> RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>>
>> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have
>> you considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus
>> eeeBox with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a
>> Raspberry Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for
>> a few years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power.
>> Asus, Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are
>> in good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can
>> upgrade to 4GB
> RAM for ~ $15.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on
>>> the
> web.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>>> (mostly Junk email).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that
>>> using MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>
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Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Robert Munn <ro...@gmail.com>.
There is a typo, try this:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk/
On Feb 1, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> What's the correct/current URL to use for James?
>
> This is what is in your video (if I'm reading it right):
>
> http://svn.apache.org/respos/asf/james/server/trunk/
>
> But, the page doesn't exist.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:52 PM
> To: 'James Users List'
> Subject: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> Great. Thanks!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:49 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James can run
> with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are going to be able
> to dedicate to the application unless you have stripped the OS install down
> to the bones. If you decide to give it a try, please post your findings back
> to the list for others' benefit. If you want to run James, I suggest
> building it from source. There is a post on my blog here:
>
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-with-ecl
> ipse
>
> That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has provided
> some written instructions for the build process, also linked from my blog,
> here:
>
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apac
> he-james-v3-with-eclipse
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Robert.
>>
>> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to
>> re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core)
>> will make it easier for me at the moment.
>>
>> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will
>> also help.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
>> To: James Users List
>> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>>
>> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB
>> RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>>
>> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
>> considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox
>> with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry
>> Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few
>> years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power. Asus,
>> Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are in
>> good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can upgrade to
>> 4GB
> RAM for ~ $15.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the
> web.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>>> (mostly Junk email).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that
>>> using MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
Robert,
What's the correct/current URL to use for James?
This is what is in your video (if I'm reading it right):
http://svn.apache.org/respos/asf/james/server/trunk/
But, the page doesn't exist.
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Means [mailto:cmeans@intfar.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:52 PM
To: 'James Users List'
Subject: RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Great. Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:49 PM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James can run
with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are going to be able
to dedicate to the application unless you have stripped the OS install down
to the bones. If you decide to give it a try, please post your findings back
to the list for others' benefit. If you want to run James, I suggest
building it from source. There is a post on my blog here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-with-ecl
ipse
That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has provided
some written instructions for the build process, also linked from my blog,
here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apac
he-james-v3-with-eclipse
On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Thanks Robert.
>
> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to
> re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core)
> will make it easier for me at the moment.
>
> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will
> also help.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB
> RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>
> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
> considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox
> with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry
> Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few
> years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power. Asus,
> Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are in
> good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can upgrade to
> 4GB
RAM for ~ $15.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the
web.
>>
>>
>>
>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>> (mostly Junk email).
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that
>> using MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>
>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
Great. Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:49 PM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James can run
with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are going to be able
to dedicate to the application unless you have stripped the OS install down
to the bones. If you decide to give it a try, please post your findings back
to the list for others' benefit. If you want to run James, I suggest
building it from source. There is a post on my blog here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-with-ecl
ipse
That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has provided
some written instructions for the build process, also linked from my blog,
here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apac
he-james-v3-with-eclipse
On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Thanks Robert.
>
> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to
> re-task/mix tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core)
> will make it easier for me at the moment.
>
> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will
> also help.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB
> RAM would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>
> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
> considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox
> with HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry
> Pi. I've been using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few
> years, they are small, quiet and consume very little power. Asus,
> Zotac, and many other brands offer these machines, and they are in
> good supply new or used. If you keep it on Windows, you can upgrade to 4GB
RAM for ~ $15.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the
web.
>>
>>
>>
>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>> (mostly Junk email).
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that
>> using MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>
>
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Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Robert Munn <ro...@gmail.com>.
Probably then your best course is to set up a test and see if James can run with -Xmx=64m or -Xmx=128m, which is maybe the max you are going to be able to dedicate to the application unless you have stripped the OS install down to the bones. If you decide to give it a try, please post your findings back to the list for others’ benefit. If you want to run James, I suggest building it from source. There is a post on my blog here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/video-building-apache-james-with-eclipse
That links to the Youtube video instructions, and Bernd Waibel has provided some written instructions for the build process, also linked from my blog, here:
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apache-james-v3-with-eclipse
On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Thanks Robert.
>
> I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to re-task/mix
> tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core) will make it
> easier for me at the moment.
>
> I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will also
> help.
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
>
> I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB RAM
> would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
>
> If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
> considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox with
> HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry Pi. I've been
> using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few years, they are small,
> quiet and consume very little power. Asus, Zotac, and many other brands
> offer these machines, and they are in good supply new or used. If you keep
> it on Windows, you can upgrade to 4GB RAM for ~ $15.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
>> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
>> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the web.
>>
>>
>>
>> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
>> (mostly Junk email).
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
>> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that using
>> MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>
>
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RE: Minimum Platform Requirements?
Posted by Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com>.
Thanks Robert.
I'm on an rPi kick at the moment, and want the flexibility to re-task/mix
tasks for the devices, so keeping them all the same (core) will make it
easier for me at the moment.
I'm still learning my way around Linux, so keeping to Raspbian will also
help.
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:robert.d.munn@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Minimum Platform Requirements?
I don't know about James v2 versus v 3, but in my experience 512 MB RAM
would be a pretty minimal environment for any Java server app.
If what you want is a small, low-power appliance-type device, have you
considered an Atom-based SFF PC? You can pick up a used Asus eeeBox with
HDD, 2GB RAM, and Windows 7 for not much more than a Raspberry Pi. I've been
using one of them as an entertainment PC for a few years, they are small,
quiet and consume very little power. Asus, Zotac, and many other brands
offer these machines, and they are in good supply new or used. If you keep
it on Windows, you can upgrade to 4GB RAM for ~ $15.
Robert
On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Chris Means <cm...@intfar.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm a James User/Developer from many, many moons ago.
>
>
>
> I've been running James v2.2 w/MySQL on an old WinNT device that I'm
> planning on decommissioning. My hope is that I can migrate to a
> Raspberry Pi B+.I've not found much on this sort of deployment on the web.
>
>
>
> I only have a few users (5 - 10), so there's not a lot of traffic
> (mostly Junk email).
>
>
>
> Is the rPi a reasonable platform? It only has 512MB RAM, which I
> assume will be the primary constraint.though I also believe that using
> MySQL will off-load some of the memory issues for James.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Should I aim for trying James v3, or go to what's stable in v2?
>
>
>
> Any migration issues for MySQL I should be aware of?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
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