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[jira] [Updated] (ISIS-736) For GSOC, - build a "real-life" app in
some suitable domain, along with a semi-academic write-up of their
learnings
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-736?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Dileepa Jayakody updated ISIS-736:
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Attachment: EmailReputationSystem_v2.png
Continuing the discussion on the mailing thread.
Please refer the high-level system architecture for my application: ReputationBox. I have attached the image.
The implementation of the system will be mainly 2 parts.
1. Implementing the ReputationBox server (which imports emails from the mailbox, performs reputation analysis and stores reputation-data. Machine Learning will be used here for analysis and reputation prediction for incoming emails. Probably need to integrate Apache Mahout, Solr for this)
2. Implementing the ReputationBox client (which displays the reputation information attached to each email and sender. The initial client will probably be a web-app displaying reputation info)
Would love to receive feedback and suggestions on how to use Isis to implement my application.
Thanks,
Dileepa
> For GSOC, - build a "real-life" app in some suitable domain, along with a semi-academic write-up of their learnings
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: ISIS-736
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-736
> Project: Isis
> Issue Type: Wish
> Reporter: Dan Haywood
> Labels: gsoc, gsoc2014
> Attachments: EmailReputationSystem_v2.png
>
>
> - to would give us another substantial example app, along with some marketing material about how learnable Isis
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Re: [jira] [Updated] (ISIS-736) For GSOC, - build a "real-life" app
in some suitable domain, along with a semi-academic write-up of their learnings
Posted by Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>.
Hi Oscar,
Thanks for your suggestions and ideas. Drools seems to be a great choice
for a rules-engine with declarative style rules. This might be useful for
the Reputation analysis component in the ReputationBox server. Does Drools
support machine learning (ML) algorithms? or is it a rules engine with
pre-defined rules for certain mathematical operations (greater than, equals
etc..)?
For my application, I will need the Reputation Analyzer to predict the
reputation of incoming emails based on past email history. Basically I will
need ML to implement a Reputation prediction system. Can Drools support my
ML requirements?
Further, since Drools is not yet integrated with Isis, do you think using
Drools with Isis for my project is possible?
Thanks again for your valuable suggestions, I will do more reading on
Drools and see how I can incorporate its features for my project.
Regards,
Dileepa
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou <
o.bou@gesconsultor.com> wrote:
> Hi, Dileepa.
>
> Another option if your business rules can change on each implementation,
> is to "externalize" them to a Rules engine, such as Drools (see [1] and
> [2]).
>
> The rules can be written on a "file" an loaded at run-time [3] and they
> can also be changed at runtime.
> And you can also define a DSL for your rules "talking your own language"
> [4].
>
> There's currently one proposed GSOC task to integrate it with Isis [5].
>
> Perhaps the expressiveness of your rules can be higher (any Java code) and
> without being restricted to the query language of Mahout (no experience
> with it).
>
> You could send the stream at real-time to the Drools engine integrated
> with Isis and afterwards save in a database.
> After being processed with the rules engine they can be saved to the
> Hadoop cluster through DataNucleus JDO [6] (I've never tried it) or simply
> to a PostgreSQL or MySQL database (not requiring the use of BigData).
>
> We could support you if needed with Drools.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Oscar
>
>
> [1] https://www.jboss.org/drools/
> [2] https://www.jboss.org/drools/drools-expert.html
> [3]
> http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.1.Final/drools-docs/html_single/index.html#d0e5108
> [4]
> http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.1.Final/drools-docs/html_single/index.html#d0e9394
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-738
> [6]
> http://www.datanucleus.org/products/accessplatform/datastores/hbase.html
>
> El 14/03/2014, a las 20:26, Dileepa Jayakody (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
> escribió:
>
>
>
> [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-736?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel]
>
> Dileepa Jayakody updated ISIS-736:
> ----------------------------------
>
> Attachment: EmailReputationSystem_v2.png
>
> Continuing the discussion on the mailing thread.
>
> Please refer the high-level system architecture for my application:
> ReputationBox. I have attached the image.
>
> The implementation of the system will be mainly 2 parts.
>
> 1. Implementing the ReputationBox server (which imports emails from the
> mailbox, performs reputation analysis and stores reputation-data. Machine
> Learning will be used here for analysis and reputation prediction for
> incoming emails. Probably need to integrate Apache Mahout, Solr for this)
>
> 2. Implementing the ReputationBox client (which displays the reputation
> information attached to each email and sender. The initial client will
> probably be a web-app displaying reputation info)
>
> Would love to receive feedback and suggestions on how to use Isis to
> implement my application.
>
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
>
> For GSOC, - build a "real-life" app in some suitable domain, along with a
> semi-academic write-up of their learnings
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: ISIS-736
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-736
> Project: Isis
> Issue Type: Wish
> Reporter: Dan Haywood
> Labels: gsoc, gsoc2014
> Attachments: EmailReputationSystem_v2.png
>
>
> - to would give us another substantial example app, along with some
> marketing material about how learnable Isis
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: [jira] [Updated] (ISIS-736) For GSOC, - build a "real-life" app in some suitable domain, along with a semi-academic write-up of their learnings
Posted by GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou <o....@gesconsultor.com>.
Hi, Dileepa.
Another option if your business rules can change on each implementation, is to "externalize" them to a Rules engine, such as Drools (see [1] and [2]).
The rules can be written on a "file" an loaded at run-time [3] and they can also be changed at runtime.
And you can also define a DSL for your rules "talking your own language" [4].
There's currently one proposed GSOC task to integrate it with Isis [5].
Perhaps the expressiveness of your rules can be higher (any Java code) and without being restricted to the query language of Mahout (no experience with it).
You could send the stream at real-time to the Drools engine integrated with Isis and afterwards save in a database.
After being processed with the rules engine they can be saved to the Hadoop cluster through DataNucleus JDO [6] (I've never tried it) or simply to a PostgreSQL or MySQL database (not requiring the use of BigData).
We could support you if needed with Drools.
HTH,
Oscar
[1] https://www.jboss.org/drools/
[2] https://www.jboss.org/drools/drools-expert.html
[3] http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.1.Final/drools-docs/html_single/index.html#d0e5108
[4] http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.1.Final/drools-docs/html_single/index.html#d0e9394
[5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-738
[6] http://www.datanucleus.org/products/accessplatform/datastores/hbase.html
El 14/03/2014, a las 20:26, Dileepa Jayakody (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org> escribió:
>
> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-736?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
>
> Dileepa Jayakody updated ISIS-736:
> ----------------------------------
>
> Attachment: EmailReputationSystem_v2.png
>
> Continuing the discussion on the mailing thread.
>
> Please refer the high-level system architecture for my application: ReputationBox. I have attached the image.
>
> The implementation of the system will be mainly 2 parts.
>
> 1. Implementing the ReputationBox server (which imports emails from the mailbox, performs reputation analysis and stores reputation-data. Machine Learning will be used here for analysis and reputation prediction for incoming emails. Probably need to integrate Apache Mahout, Solr for this)
>
> 2. Implementing the ReputationBox client (which displays the reputation information attached to each email and sender. The initial client will probably be a web-app displaying reputation info)
>
> Would love to receive feedback and suggestions on how to use Isis to implement my application.
>
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
>
>> For GSOC, - build a "real-life" app in some suitable domain, along with a semi-academic write-up of their learnings
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Key: ISIS-736
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-736
>> Project: Isis
>> Issue Type: Wish
>> Reporter: Dan Haywood
>> Labels: gsoc, gsoc2014
>> Attachments: EmailReputationSystem_v2.png
>>
>>
>> - to would give us another substantial example app, along with some marketing material about how learnable Isis
>
>
>
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Auditor Jefe de Certificación ISO 27001 en BSI
CISA, CRISC, APMG ISO 20000, ITIL-F
902 900 231 / 620 267 520
http://www.twitter.com/oscarbou
http://es.linkedin.com/in/oscarbou
http://www.GesConsultor.com
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