Wink project terminated

[Steve Moyer <sm...@psu.edu>]

I don't know the current state of the various Apache Directory projects but if memory serves me the Escimo and Fortress-UI projects both use Wink.  Those of us at Penn State have reasonably extensive experience with RESTEasy if that's the direction chosen.

ciao,

Steve

"To parents:  The urge to create is equally strong in all children.  Boys and girls.  It's imagination that counts.  Not skill.  You build whatever comes into your head, the way you want it.  A bed or a truck.  A dolls house or a spaceship.  A lot of boys like doll houses.  They're more human than spaceships.  A lot of girls prefer spaceships.  They're more exciting than dolls houses.  The most important thing is to put the right material in their hands and let them create whatever appeals to them."

Lego Corporation (Sometime in the '70s)

Re: Wink project terminated

[SHAWN E SMITH <se...@psu.edu>]

If the lawyers ever finish the paperwork.....  

"The programmer … works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff.
He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination."
— Fred Brooks

Shawn Smith
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Seelmann" <ma...@stefan-seelmann.de>
To: "Apache Directory Developers List" <de...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 2:10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Wink project terminated

On 04/24/2017 12:26 AM, Steve Moyer wrote:
> I don't know the current state of the various Apache Directory projects but if memory serves me the Escimo and Fortress-UI projects both use Wink.  Those of us at Penn State have reasonably extensive experience with RESTEasy if that's the direction chosen.

As far as I see, Fortress is not using Wink, only Wicket UI framework in
fortress-web and CXF as JAX-RS implementation in fortress-rest, but
Shawn knows better.

And Escimo should anyway be replaced by SCIMple, right? ;-)

Kind Regards,
Stefan

Re: Wink project terminated

[Shawn McKinney <sm...@apache.org>]

> On Apr 24, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Stefan Seelmann <ma...@stefan-seelmann.de> wrote:
> 
> As far as I see, Fortress is not using Wink, only Wicket UI framework in
> fortress-web and CXF as JAX-RS implementation in fortress-rest, but
> Shawn knows better.

Stefan is correct, there’s nary a hint of a wink inside fortress.  ;-)

Re: Wink project terminated

[Stefan Seelmann <ma...@stefan-seelmann.de>]

On 04/24/2017 12:26 AM, Steve Moyer wrote:
> I don't know the current state of the various Apache Directory projects but if memory serves me the Escimo and Fortress-UI projects both use Wink.  Those of us at Penn State have reasonably extensive experience with RESTEasy if that's the direction chosen.

As far as I see, Fortress is not using Wink, only Wicket UI framework in
fortress-web and CXF as JAX-RS implementation in fortress-rest, but
Shawn knows better.

And Escimo should anyway be replaced by SCIMple, right? ;-)

Kind Regards,
Stefan

Re: Wink project terminated

[Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com>]

Le 24/04/2017 à 08:50, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> I always find it sad to see an open source project reach it end of life.

Darwin wins, at the end :-)

There are many projects that reach end of life, and open source projects
are no different.

The thing is that a project ends for 3 different reasons :
- the company behind it pulls the plug (commercial projects)
- the project becomes irrelevant (technical reason)
- there are not anymore contributor (OSS specific)

The only aspect we can address is teh third one, and it's pretty hard to
deal with, because there are not that many people who have the drive,
time and desire to dedicate a hell lot of private time to a project.
Usually, most of the OSS projects are backed by big Cos, up to the point
they reach (1) - think about OpenOffice, when IBM decided to cut the
costs -.

For the ASF, having a business friendly license is a big plus with
respect to people being paid to work on an OSS.

Ok, now, wink will move to attic, which does not mean it's dead for us.
We have options :
- switch to something else
- keep going with the project, expecting that the parts we are using
aren't too buggy
- incorporate the parts we are using and maintain it

Option (2) is most certainly teh best possible choice atm, then we might
want to move to (1). I don't think option (3) is teh right one.

My 2cts.

-- 
Emmanuel Lecharny

Symas.com
directory.apache.org

Re: Wink project terminated

[Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>]

I always find it sad to see an open source project reach it end of life.

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On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Steve Moyer <sm...@psu.edu> wrote:

> I don't know the current state of the various Apache Directory projects
> but if memory serves me the Escimo and Fortress-UI projects both use Wink.
> Those of us at Penn State have reasonably extensive experience with
> RESTEasy if that's the direction chosen.
>
> ciao,
>
> Steve
>
> "To parents:  The urge to create is equally strong in all children.  Boys
> and girls.  It's imagination that counts.  Not skill.  You build whatever
> comes into your head, the way you want it.  A bed or a truck.  A dolls
> house or a spaceship.  A lot of boys like doll houses.  They're more human
> than spaceships.  A lot of girls prefer spaceships.  They're more exciting
> than dolls houses.  The most important thing is to put the right material
> in their hands and let them create whatever appeals to them."
>
> Lego Corporation (Sometime in the '70s)
>