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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> on 2014/07/07 23:58:28 UTC
Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
I see I can hit http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25 and get a response back but is there something more "official" then that?
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>.
Hey! good to know :-D
I probably should have done a better job describing it then :P
Want to see this fixed, so hopefully someone can work on it
2014-07-08 12:12 GMT-05:00 Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>:
> Thanks Victor,
> Looks like you just documented the unofficial API - here's the
> permalink http://s.apache.org/zgt ;)
> Perhaps someone can patch the -/all request to contain platforms as
> well (or organize it by platform key, or something).
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello Folks.
> >
> > I've found it out that in the plugins.cordova.io page makes calls to
> this
> > one: http://registry.cordova.io/. In fact, for you to get all the
> plugins
> > information, you should point to http://registry.cordova.io/-/all,
> you'll
> > get a JSON response with all the plugins.
> >
> > If you want a plugin with all the version you point to
> > http://registry.cordova.io/PLUGIN_ID, for instance
> > http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file
> >
> > If you want a plugin with a specific version you point to
> > http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file/VERSION, for instance
> > http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file/latest
> >
> > One odd thing I've found here is that -/all request doesn't retrieve the
> > platforms supported by each plugin, if the author specified it of course,
> > but if you get on specific plugin, it will contain the "platforms:"
> > attribute. For example, if you use the samples above, look for platforms
> in
> > the -/all request, you'll found none. Now, use whichever of the
> > plugin-specific URLs above and look for platforms and you will find them,
> > in both URLs.
> >
> > I found these URLs by looking at the code in plugins.cordova.io ;-)
> >
> >
> > 2014-07-07 22:13 GMT-05:00 Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Understood. I pointed you to the URL steve was hitting to perform the
> >> search. It just happens to be a in a javascript file. It's common
> CouchDB
> >> document API http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/HTTP_Document_API
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not so much concerned with the code part - I'm more concerned about
> if I
> >> > should be hitting the URL. :)
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> >> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:38 PM
> >> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> >> >
> >> > But if you're looking for search specifically you can take a look at
> how
> >> > Steve did it in the plugins site
> >> >
> >> > http://goo.gl/pxKE49
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools.
> But
> >> > I'm
> >> > >> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ________________________________________
> >> > >> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <panarasi@microsoft.com
> >
> >> > >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
> >> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > >> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this
> >> official
> >> > >> API ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
> >> > >> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
> >> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > >> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I see I can hit
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
> >> > >> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then
> >> > that?
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > IBM Software Engineer
> > Guadalajara, Jalisco
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Victor,
Looks like you just documented the unofficial API - here's the
permalink http://s.apache.org/zgt ;)
Perhaps someone can patch the -/all request to contain platforms as
well (or organize it by platform key, or something).
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Folks.
>
> I've found it out that in the plugins.cordova.io page makes calls to this
> one: http://registry.cordova.io/. In fact, for you to get all the plugins
> information, you should point to http://registry.cordova.io/-/all, you'll
> get a JSON response with all the plugins.
>
> If you want a plugin with all the version you point to
> http://registry.cordova.io/PLUGIN_ID, for instance
> http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file
>
> If you want a plugin with a specific version you point to
> http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file/VERSION, for instance
> http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file/latest
>
> One odd thing I've found here is that -/all request doesn't retrieve the
> platforms supported by each plugin, if the author specified it of course,
> but if you get on specific plugin, it will contain the "platforms:"
> attribute. For example, if you use the samples above, look for platforms in
> the -/all request, you'll found none. Now, use whichever of the
> plugin-specific URLs above and look for platforms and you will find them,
> in both URLs.
>
> I found these URLs by looking at the code in plugins.cordova.io ;-)
>
>
> 2014-07-07 22:13 GMT-05:00 Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Understood. I pointed you to the URL steve was hitting to perform the
>> search. It just happens to be a in a javascript file. It's common CouchDB
>> document API http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/HTTP_Document_API
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Not so much concerned with the code part - I'm more concerned about if I
>> > should be hitting the URL. :)
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:38 PM
>> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>> >
>> > But if you're looking for search specifically you can take a look at how
>> > Steve did it in the plugins site
>> >
>> > http://goo.gl/pxKE49
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But
>> > I'm
>> > >> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
>> > >>
>> > >> ________________________________________
>> > >> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
>> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > >> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>> > >>
>> > >> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this
>> official
>> > >> API ?
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
>> > >> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
>> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > >> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>> > >>
>> > >> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
>> > >>
>> > >> I see I can hit
>> > >>
>> >
>> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
>> > >> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then
>> > that?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> IBM Software Engineer
> Guadalajara, Jalisco
RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>.
I may just hit the giant ass JSON, cache it locally for an hour, and use that instead.
________________________________________
From: Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:20 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Seems like you are right, Ray.
All I pointed out is that you can do REST calls to registry.cordova.io to
retrieve the JSON object of the interested REST query, not a search
mechanism like the one you have
2014-07-08 18:50 GMT-05:00 Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>:
> Am I right in seeing there isn't a search API then? If not, I'll continue
> to hit the URL I was using.
> ________________________________________
> From: Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:45 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>
> Hello Folks.
>
> I've found it out that in the plugins.cordova.io page makes calls to this
> one: http://registry.cordova.io/. In fact, for you to get all the plugins
> information, you should point to http://registry.cordova.io/-/all, you'll
> get a JSON response with all the plugins.
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>.
Seems like you are right, Ray.
All I pointed out is that you can do REST calls to registry.cordova.io to
retrieve the JSON object of the interested REST query, not a search
mechanism like the one you have
2014-07-08 18:50 GMT-05:00 Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>:
> Am I right in seeing there isn't a search API then? If not, I'll continue
> to hit the URL I was using.
> ________________________________________
> From: Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:45 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>
> Hello Folks.
>
> I've found it out that in the plugins.cordova.io page makes calls to this
> one: http://registry.cordova.io/. In fact, for you to get all the plugins
> information, you should point to http://registry.cordova.io/-/all, you'll
> get a JSON response with all the plugins.
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>.
Am I right in seeing there isn't a search API then? If not, I'll continue to hit the URL I was using.
________________________________________
From: Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:45 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Hello Folks.
I've found it out that in the plugins.cordova.io page makes calls to this
one: http://registry.cordova.io/. In fact, for you to get all the plugins
information, you should point to http://registry.cordova.io/-/all, you'll
get a JSON response with all the plugins.
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Folks.
I've found it out that in the plugins.cordova.io page makes calls to this
one: http://registry.cordova.io/. In fact, for you to get all the plugins
information, you should point to http://registry.cordova.io/-/all, you'll
get a JSON response with all the plugins.
If you want a plugin with all the version you point to
http://registry.cordova.io/PLUGIN_ID, for instance
http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file
If you want a plugin with a specific version you point to
http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file/VERSION, for instance
http://registry.cordova.io/org.apache.cordova.file/latest
One odd thing I've found here is that -/all request doesn't retrieve the
platforms supported by each plugin, if the author specified it of course,
but if you get on specific plugin, it will contain the "platforms:"
attribute. For example, if you use the samples above, look for platforms in
the -/all request, you'll found none. Now, use whichever of the
plugin-specific URLs above and look for platforms and you will find them,
in both URLs.
I found these URLs by looking at the code in plugins.cordova.io ;-)
2014-07-07 22:13 GMT-05:00 Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>:
> Understood. I pointed you to the URL steve was hitting to perform the
> search. It just happens to be a in a javascript file. It's common CouchDB
> document API http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/HTTP_Document_API
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Not so much concerned with the code part - I'm more concerned about if I
> > should be hitting the URL. :)
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:38 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> >
> > But if you're looking for search specifically you can take a look at how
> > Steve did it in the plugins site
> >
> > http://goo.gl/pxKE49
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But
> > I'm
> > >> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> > >>
> > >> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this
> official
> > >> API ?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
> > >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> > >>
> > >> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
> > >>
> > >> I see I can hit
> > >>
> >
> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
> > >> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then
> > that?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>.
Understood. I pointed you to the URL steve was hitting to perform the
search. It just happens to be a in a javascript file. It's common CouchDB
document API http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/HTTP_Document_API
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Not so much concerned with the code part - I'm more concerned about if I
> should be hitting the URL. :)
> ________________________________________
> From: Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:38 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>
> But if you're looking for search specifically you can take a look at how
> Steve did it in the plugins site
>
> http://goo.gl/pxKE49
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But
> I'm
> >> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
> >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> >>
> >> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this official
> >> API ?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
> >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
> >>
> >> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
> >>
> >> I see I can hit
> >>
> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
> >> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then
> that?
> >>
> >
> >
>
RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>.
Not so much concerned with the code part - I'm more concerned about if I should be hitting the URL. :)
________________________________________
From: Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:38 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
But if you're looking for search specifically you can take a look at how
Steve did it in the plugins site
http://goo.gl/pxKE49
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But I'm
>> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>>
>> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this official
>> API ?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
>> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>>
>> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
>>
>> I see I can hit
>> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
>> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then that?
>>
>
>
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>.
But if you're looking for search specifically you can take a look at how
Steve did it in the plugins site
http://goo.gl/pxKE49
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But I'm
>> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>>
>> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this official
>> API ?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
>> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>>
>> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
>>
>> I see I can hit
>> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
>> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then that?
>>
>
>
Re: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>.
https://github.com/imhotep/npmjs.org should work
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But I'm
> calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>
> Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this official
> API ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
>
> Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
>
> I see I can hit
> http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25
> and get a response back but is there something more "official" then that?
>
RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by Ray Camden <ra...@adobe.com>.
Definitely not CORS enabled from what I can see in the dev tools. But I'm calling from Brackets so it shouldn't matter.
________________________________________
From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <pa...@microsoft.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:00 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this official API ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
I see I can hit http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25 and get a response back but is there something more "official" then that?
RE: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Posted by "Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH)" <pa...@microsoft.com>.
Also, is this CORS enabled so that other websites can use this official API ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Camden [mailto:raycamde@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:58 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Ajax search API on plugins.cordova.io
Is there an "official" API for plugins.cordova.io?
I see I can hit http://plugins.cordova.io/_list/search/search?startkey=%22dialogs%22&endkey=%22dialogsZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ%22&limit=25 and get a response back but is there something more "official" then that?