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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org> on 2004/12/08 19:52:58 UTC
Fwd: Re: JDK 1.3, Forrest and Cocoon Upgrade
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> Rick Tessner wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> With the latest cocoon upgrade, I compiled and tested everything using
>> JDK 1.4. Unfortunately if someone is using JDK 1.3 and rebuilds
>> forrest, they run into this issue:
>>
>> http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-407
>>
>> After looking through the cocooon mailing lists, I get the impression
>> that jdk 1.3 is no longer supported for cocoon 2.2 (but is supported
>> for Cocoon 2.1.x).
>>
>> Unfortunately, the @pass-through attribute that we use in the sitemaps
>> for plugins does not currently work under Cocoon 2.1.6.
>>
>> Does someone know for certain what the state of the support for jdk
>> 1.3 is under Cocoon 2.2?
>
>
> AFAIK there was no official vote but I found these mails by Carsten and
> Sylvain:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=109681547626264&w=2
Have I missed the vote?
--
Reinhard
Re: JDK 1.3, Forrest and Cocoon Upgrade
Posted by Ugo Cei <ug...@apache.org>.
Il giorno 09/dic/04, alle 09:04, Reinhard Poetz ha scritto:
> 2.2 is under develoment (alpha!) and should not be used in production.
> IMO we are free to use 1.4 for now. When we reach a consolidated state
> of Cocoon core 2.2 we can try to compile with 1.3 and see what is
> needed to enable the support again. If possible, we should do it, if
> not, then not. This is my interpretation of the results.
> So no vote is needed.
+1 ;-)
Ugo
--
Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/
Re: Fwd: Re: JDK 1.3, Forrest and Cocoon Upgrade
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Do you think we need a new vote again? :-)
2.2 is under develoment (alpha!) and should not be used in production. IMO we
are free to use 1.4 for now. When we reach a consolidated state of Cocoon core
2.2 we can try to compile with 1.3 and see what is needed to enable the support
again. If possible, we should do it, if not, then not. This is my
interpretation of the results.
So no vote is needed.
--
Reinhard
Re: Fwd: Re: JDK 1.3, Forrest and Cocoon Upgrade
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
On Jue, 9 de Diciembre de 2004, 1:26, Reinhard Poetz dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> On Mie, 8 de Diciembre de 2004, 12:52, Reinhard Poetz dijo:
>>
>>> > AFAIK there was no official vote but I found these mails by Carsten
>>> and
>>> > Sylvain:
>>> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=109681547626264&w=2
>>>
>>>Have I missed the vote?
>>
>>
>> I don't wrote this ;-)
>
> maybe my second ego (I think Bertrand already got acquainted with him ...)
> ;-)
:-D
>
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=107821710911262&w=2
>>
>> Follow the thread and seems we had an agreement. :-D
>
> Here the missing summary:
>
> +1 : Antonio, Stefano, Unico, Bruno
> -0.5: Ugo, Jörg, Leo (nb), Reinhard, Pier
>
> People who voted with -0.5 were not against 1.4 but said that this really
> needs
> a good usecase that can only be implemented (easily) with 1.4 and not with
> 1.3.
>
> Not to end in a chicken-egg-situation, we agreed that 1.4 is the minimum
> for 2.2
> for now. When we are ready to release Cocoon 2.2 we will look through the
> code
> of Cocoon _core_ and if there is no major blocker we will support 1.3
> again, if
> this is not possible, 1.4 will remain the minimum.
Doing the maths, the vote was in favor of 1.4. :-D
Seriously, I understand the concerns at that time (9 months ago). The
user's POLL showed that most of them are using 1.4:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=107821686900002&r=1&w=2
I just found 1 vote against and the reasons was not so good to me:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&m=107831280121346&w=2
Because I guess SAP already (or soon will) ship a new version supporting 1.4
I read some time ago, that Sun will not release newer version for 1.3 and
1.4. Maybe that was only a rumor. Not sure, but the problem is that open
bugs in older JVM will remain open forever.
The complexity for us (committers) is a little bit hard: 2 branches:
1-with 3 JVM (1.3, 1.4 and 1.5)
2-with 2 JVM (1.4 and 1.5).
In short 5 compilations of cca. 10 minuts each one to check changes! This
is the current situation. :-(
In any case:
Do you think we need a new vote again? :-)
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo.
Re: Fwd: Re: JDK 1.3, Forrest and Cocoon Upgrade
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> On Mie, 8 de Diciembre de 2004, 12:52, Reinhard Poetz dijo:
>
>> > AFAIK there was no official vote but I found these mails by Carsten and
>> > Sylvain:
>> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=109681547626264&w=2
>>
>>Have I missed the vote?
>
>
> I don't wrote this ;-)
maybe my second ego (I think Bertrand already got acquainted with him ...) ;-)
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=107821710911262&w=2
>
> Follow the thread and seems we had an agreement. :-D
Here the missing summary:
+1 : Antonio, Stefano, Unico, Bruno
-0.5: Ugo, Jörg, Leo (nb), Reinhard, Pier
People who voted with -0.5 were not against 1.4 but said that this really needs
a good usecase that can only be implemented (easily) with 1.4 and not with 1.3.
Not to end in a chicken-egg-situation, we agreed that 1.4 is the minimum for 2.2
for now. When we are ready to release Cocoon 2.2 we will look through the code
of Cocoon _core_ and if there is no major blocker we will support 1.3 again, if
this is not possible, 1.4 will remain the minimum.
--
Reinhard
Re: Fwd: Re: JDK 1.3, Forrest and Cocoon Upgrade
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
On Mie, 8 de Diciembre de 2004, 12:52, Reinhard Poetz dijo:
> > AFAIK there was no official vote but I found these mails by Carsten and
> > Sylvain:
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=109681547626264&w=2
>
> Have I missed the vote?
I don't wrote this ;-)
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=107821710911262&w=2
Follow the thread and seems we had an agreement. :-D
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo