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org.netbeans name prefix for artifacts and Java packages (was:
[DISCUSS] NetBeans brand and domain transition to Apache)
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> ...A related knock-on effect is that org.netbeans will be available for Apache
> NetBeans Maven archetypes, since the netbeans.org domain will belong to
> Apache...
I suppose you mean Maven *artifacts*.
Note that AFAIK NetBeans should use the org.apache prefix for all Java
package names, Maven artifacts etc.
If there are strong reasons for NetBeans to keep using org.netbeans in
places (after an understandable transition phase) those should be
listed somewhere so a discussion can begin.
-Bertrand
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Re: org.netbeans name prefix for artifacts and Java packages
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
El 23/08/2018 a las 14:27, Jan Lahoda escribió:
> 23. srpna 2018 13:37:23 SELČ, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> napsal:
>> [...]
>> If there are strong reasons for NetBeans to keep using org.netbeans in
>> places (after an understandable transition phase) those should be
>> listed somewhere so a discussion can begin.
>
> IIRC, we already had such discussion at least partially. One quite strong reason to keep package and also module names is compatibility: there is a lot of existing code using these names.
>
That's a strong reason to keep using org.netbeans, IMHO, at least during
a transition phase.
So what about releasing Maven artifacts under _both_ "org.netbeans" and
"org.apache.netbeans" during a transition phase? Is that possible?
After that transition phase, the "lots of existing code" are expected to
move to "org.apache.netbeans", and we can then deprecate "org.netbeans".
Cheers,
Antonio
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Re: org.netbeans name prefix for artifacts and Java packages (was: [DISCUSS] NetBeans brand and domain transition to Apache)
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
23. srpna 2018 13:37:23 SELČ, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> napsal:
>Hi,
>
>On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
><ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> ...A related knock-on effect is that org.netbeans will be available
>for Apache
>> NetBeans Maven archetypes, since the netbeans.org domain will belong
>to
>> Apache...
>
>I suppose you mean Maven *artifacts*.
>
>Note that AFAIK NetBeans should use the org.apache prefix for all Java
>package names, Maven artifacts etc.
>
>If there are strong reasons for NetBeans to keep using org.netbeans in
>places (after an understandable transition phase) those should be
>listed somewhere so a discussion can begin.
IIRC, we already had such discussion at least partially. One quite strong reason to keep package and also module names is compatibility: there is a lot of existing code using these names.
Jan
>
>-Bertrand
>
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Re: org.netbeans name prefix for artifacts and Java packages (was:
[DISCUSS] NetBeans brand and domain transition to Apache)
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:41 PM Andreas Sewe <se...@cqse.eu> wrote:
> ...If you switch just the groupId from org.netbeans to
> org.apache.netbeans (but leave artifactIds and package names intact),
> then this is relatively painless, thanks to so-called relocation POMs [1]....
Yes, and that's something that happens frequently.
-Bertrand
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Re: org.netbeans name prefix for artifacts and Java packages (was:
[DISCUSS] NetBeans brand and domain transition to Apache)
Posted by Andreas Sewe <se...@cqse.eu>.
Hi,
> We've discussed it before, will try to track it down -- I think there'd be
> various problems if we switch the names of Maven artifacts to
> org.apache.netbeans, though correct me if I'm wrong or add additional
> points here related to this, anyone who has insights here.
just a pointer: If you switch just the groupId from org.netbeans to
org.apache.netbeans (but leave artifactIds and package names intact),
then this is relatively painless, thanks to so-called relocation POMs [1].
Hope this helps.
Andreas
[1]
<https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-relocation.html#How_to_relocate_a_Maven_2_artifact_to_a_different_groupId>
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Re: org.netbeans name prefix for artifacts and Java packages (was:
[DISCUSS] NetBeans brand and domain transition to Apache)
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Yes, thanks for flagging this topic.
We've discussed it before, will try to track it down -- I think there'd be
various problems if we switch the names of Maven artifacts to
org.apache.netbeans, though correct me if I'm wrong or add additional
points here related to this, anyone who has insights here.
Thanks,
Gj
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > ...A related knock-on effect is that org.netbeans will be available for
> Apache
> > NetBeans Maven archetypes, since the netbeans.org domain will belong to
> > Apache...
>
> I suppose you mean Maven *artifacts*.
>
> Note that AFAIK NetBeans should use the org.apache prefix for all Java
> package names, Maven artifacts etc.
>
> If there are strong reasons for NetBeans to keep using org.netbeans in
> places (after an understandable transition phase) those should be
> listed somewhere so a discussion can begin.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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