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struts vs. JSP/Servlets

I want to use JSP and Servlets. Nothing else. 
What exactly does struts do for me that I can't do with Tomcat alone? 

I often hear struts/JSP. I also hear that struts allows us to build
applications in model 2 MVC form. But I also hear that about JSP and
Servlets. So then I started to think that struts is the framework that
allows us to use JSP/Servlet technology. But that must be wrong because I
installed Tomcat and it's running JSP/Servlets fine without installing
struts. So my question is still the one posed above. What does struts do for
me that I can't do with Tomcat alone (in the world of JSP/Servlets)?

- Edward




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Re: struts vs. JSP/Servlets

Posted by Vinay <vi...@mdp.net>.
What I feel that MVC can be done without using struts too, but when you do
such an application , we will end up doing a framework for our specific
application.I think the developers like Craig might have realized the need
for a framework called struts  which I think is  providing   controller and
other features like configuration files which eventually will be needed in a
JSP/Servlet framework without struts . I also think that Tag Libraries
provide a robust way of writing JSP pages , without the need of writing any
server side Java (scriplets).

These are my thoughts , might not be true, correct me


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Mitchell" <jm...@apache.org>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: struts vs. JSP/Servlets


> On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 16:37, Chin, Ed wrote:
> > I want to use JSP and Servlets. Nothing else.
> > What exactly does struts do for me that I can't do with Tomcat alone?
>
> Absolutely nothing.  You can jump right in and (given enough time) do
> everything that Struts does...100%!!!
>
> Do you have that much time?
>
> >
> > I often hear struts/JSP. I also hear that struts allows us to build
> > applications in model 2 MVC form. But I also hear that about JSP and
> > Servlets. So then I started to think that struts is the framework that
> > allows us to use JSP/Servlet technology. But that must be wrong because
I
> > installed Tomcat and it's running JSP/Servlets fine without installing
> > struts. So my question is still the one posed above. What does struts do
for
> > me that I can't do with Tomcat alone (in the world of JSP/Servlets)?
>
> see above.
>
> >
> > - Edward
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: struts vs. JSP/Servlets

Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 16:37, Chin, Ed wrote:
> I want to use JSP and Servlets. Nothing else. 
> What exactly does struts do for me that I can't do with Tomcat alone? 

Absolutely nothing.  You can jump right in and (given enough time) do
everything that Struts does...100%!!!

Do you have that much time?

> 
> I often hear struts/JSP. I also hear that struts allows us to build
> applications in model 2 MVC form. But I also hear that about JSP and
> Servlets. So then I started to think that struts is the framework that
> allows us to use JSP/Servlet technology. But that must be wrong because I
> installed Tomcat and it's running JSP/Servlets fine without installing
> struts. So my question is still the one posed above. What does struts do for
> me that I can't do with Tomcat alone (in the world of JSP/Servlets)?

see above.

> 
> - Edward
> 
> 
> 
> 
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