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imminent updates and release [Re: What would it take to create a 2.0.1 release?

Jackson, Douglas wrote:
>
> There has not been a new release of WSIF for 3 years. Can’t we get one
> based on latest source?
>
> The nightly build link doesn’t go to WSIF nightly builds. The links on
> the page seem to be mostly
>
> broken since the apache site re-org a couple months ago.
>
> It would go a long way to dispel the general feeling that WSIF is dead
> to have a release even if
>
> it was marked as alpha or something.
>
hi,

that was sitting on my todo list for long time both half done: i will
debug forest and should get updated the website. and i think you are
right we do need an update/maintenance release so if all goes well i
will post it during weekend and hope to get input on that from you and
from anybody who is willing to give it try and report problems/patches
(if there are some fixes/patches that that should be included please
speak up and post to wsif-dev).

thanks,

alek

-- 
The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay


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Re: imminent updates and release [Re: What would it take to create a 2.0.1 release?

Posted by Craig Powers <cp...@soasta.com>.
I would like to second the notion of a new release.  We had been looking at
possible use of WSIF at our company, but had just about given up on it
because it very much gave the appearance of a "dead" or "abandoned" project:

- No release since early 2003.

- Web site has broken and old links.

- Documentation (both downloaded and online) is incomplete and contains
"TODO's".  Downloaded documentation does not match the online documentation.

- Examples contradict what the documentation says is supported.  For example
documentation says only "object" messages are supported for JMS (which would
be a big drawback), while the downloaded example for JMS actually uses Text
Messages.

- Unclear how much of the old IBM documentation still applies (old IBM
documentation I run across online says alarming things like "no support for
complex types", "not thread safe" etc.).

- Included documentation has long listings of many API calls, the vast
majority with absolutely no actual documentation describing what the purpose
of the call is or how to use it.

- Inability to download the latest source or look at bug or fix lists.

- Little evidence of ongoing discussions or activity.

- The downloaded release doesn't compile with Java 5.

Perhaps if there was a new release that addressed some of these issues we
could reconsider using it.

Hope this email isn't too "negative", just trying to convey the impression a
complete new-comer gets when they first encounter WSIF.

Best regards,
Craig Powers
SOASTA, Inc.


On 5/19/06 12:37 AM, "Cyril Rognon" <cy...@sysdeo.fr> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> that news is breathtaking ! It would be wonderful to have an updated
> release. I have been using WSIF on internal projects with success and
> promote it whenever possible but the lack of recent official release is
> often a blocker.
> 
> Thanks for the good job.
> 
> Cyril
> 
> Aleksander Slominski a écrit :
> 
>> Jackson, Douglas wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>> There has not been a new release of WSIF for 3 years. Can¹t we get one
>>> based on latest source?
>>> 
>>> The nightly build link doesn¹t go to WSIF nightly builds. The links on
>>> the page seem to be mostly
>>> 
>>> broken since the apache site re-org a couple months ago.
>>> 
>>> It would go a long way to dispel the general feeling that WSIF is dead
>>> to have a release even if
>>> 
>>> it was marked as alpha or something.
>>> 
>>>    
>>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> that was sitting on my todo list for long time both half done: i will
>> debug forest and should get updated the website. and i think you are
>> right we do need an update/maintenance release so if all goes well i
>> will post it during weekend and hope to get input on that from you and
>> from anybody who is willing to give it try and report problems/patches
>> (if there are some fixes/patches that that should be included please
>> speak up and post to wsif-dev).
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> alek
>> 
>>  
>> 
> 


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Re: imminent updates and release [Re: What would it take to create a 2.0.1 release?

Posted by Cyril Rognon <cy...@sysdeo.fr>.
Hi folks,

that news is breathtaking ! It would be wonderful to have an updated 
release. I have been using WSIF on internal projects with success and 
promote it whenever possible but the lack of recent official release is 
often a blocker.

Thanks for the good job.

Cyril

Aleksander Slominski a écrit :

>Jackson, Douglas wrote:
>  
>
>>There has not been a new release of WSIF for 3 years. Can’t we get one
>>based on latest source?
>>
>>The nightly build link doesn’t go to WSIF nightly builds. The links on
>>the page seem to be mostly
>>
>>broken since the apache site re-org a couple months ago.
>>
>>It would go a long way to dispel the general feeling that WSIF is dead
>>to have a release even if
>>
>>it was marked as alpha or something.
>>
>>    
>>
>hi,
>
>that was sitting on my todo list for long time both half done: i will
>debug forest and should get updated the website. and i think you are
>right we do need an update/maintenance release so if all goes well i
>will post it during weekend and hope to get input on that from you and
>from anybody who is willing to give it try and report problems/patches
>(if there are some fixes/patches that that should be included please
>speak up and post to wsif-dev).
>
>thanks,
>
>alek
>
>  
>


-- 
Cyril Rognon
Sysdeo - Groupe SQLI
01 55 93 36 87
06 08 89 16 86


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Re: imminent updates and release [Re: What would it take to create a 2.0.1 release?

Posted by Jeff MAURY <je...@jeffmaury.com>.
Aleksander Slominski wrote:
> Jackson, Douglas wrote:
>   
>> There has not been a new release of WSIF for 3 years. Can�t we get one
>> based on latest source?
>>
>> The nightly build link doesn�t go to WSIF nightly builds. The links on
>> the page seem to be mostly
>>
>> broken since the apache site re-org a couple months ago.
>>
>> It would go a long way to dispel the general feeling that WSIF is dead
>> to have a release even if
>>
>> it was marked as alpha or something.
>>
>>     
> hi,
>
> that was sitting on my todo list for long time both half done: i will
> debug forest and should get updated the website. and i think you are
> right we do need an update/maintenance release so if all goes well i
> will post it during weekend and hope to get input on that from you and
> from anybody who is willing to give it try and report problems/patches
> (if there are some fixes/patches that that should be included please
> speak up and post to wsif-dev).
>   
I have posted a year or so ago a number of pathes concerning the Java 
provider. I will repost them during the week end.

Jeff
> thanks,
>
> alek
>
>   


Re: imminent updates and release [Re: What would it take to create a 2.0.1 release?

Posted by Jeff MAURY <je...@jeffmaury.com>.
Aleksander Slominski wrote:
> Jackson, Douglas wrote:
>   
>> There has not been a new release of WSIF for 3 years. Can’t we get one
>> based on latest source?
>>
>> The nightly build link doesn’t go to WSIF nightly builds. The links on
>> the page seem to be mostly
>>
>> broken since the apache site re-org a couple months ago.
>>
>> It would go a long way to dispel the general feeling that WSIF is dead
>> to have a release even if
>>
>> it was marked as alpha or something.
>>
>>     
> hi,
>
> that was sitting on my todo list for long time both half done: i will
> debug forest and should get updated the website. and i think you are
> right we do need an update/maintenance release so if all goes well i
> will post it during weekend and hope to get input on that from you and
> from anybody who is willing to give it try and report problems/patches
> (if there are some fixes/patches that that should be included please
> speak up and post to wsif-dev).
>   
I have posted a year or so ago a number of pathes concerning the Java 
provider. I will repost them during the week end.

Jeff
> thanks,
>
> alek
>
>