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Slow development cycle
Hi again,
I have a couple of questions, maybe some of you can help me out. It
seems to me that web-app development using Tapestry is getting a bit
slow. I had to turn off page-caching, since my changes weren't showing
up, and now I end up doing a 10seconds change - compile - redeploy -
test cycle.
Has anyone one you faced this problem? How do I:
1) Speed up Tapestry initialization:
15:54:11,620 INFO [org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet] Initialized
application servlet 'SigepWeb': 5,658 millis to create HiveMind
Registry, 12,278 millis overall.
... 12 seconds, is this normal? My app barely has 6 pages!
2) I guess this could be a non-Tapestry related issue. But maybe someone
can help. How do I use hot-deploying on tomcat for Tapestry classes?
Everytime I change a page's code I have to restart the whole app (that's
30secs for Spring, 12-15secs for Tapestry - a whole minute on every page
change?). Things would be so much better if JBoss didn't throw its
hot-deployment errors on me. Any ideas?
3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I make
to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
(btw, I'm using MyEclipse 4M3 on a JBoss server. Maybe I could change
servers, any recommendations?)
Ok, I think that's all. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Slow development cycle
Posted by Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi <le...@dtqsoftware.com>.
hehe, I haven't got the time to test your suggestions. But thanks anyway!
(i'll check that out on Monday. Its fairly easy to have several
containers in this MyEclipse IDE ;))
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DTQ Software
Andreas Andreou escribió:
> Geoff Longman wrote:
>
>> Jetty and JettyLauncher (http:jettylauncher.sf.net) (along with tap
>> cache disabling and the reset service) for me on the desktop makes
>> debugging a snap. We deploy into Tomcat in all other environments.
>>
>>
> That's also the configuration i ended up with.
> Jetty's startup time is a fraction of Tomcat's.
>
> Additionally, it really pays off to have your templates fully
> previewable as
> html files. It allows you to do even faster html, css and even
> javascript tweeking
> completely outside of your servlet container.
>
>> Geoff
>>
>> On 9/2/05, Inge Solvoll <ta...@ingenett.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm running tomcat 5 separately from jboss, and hot deploy of tapestry
>>> java code from eclipse works just fine for me. Maybe a change to
>>> tomcat/jboss, instead of just jboss, could work for you?
>>>
>>> I also use MyEclipse with tomcat and jboss running integrated with
>>> debugging in eclipse.
>>>
>>> Inge
>>>
>>> Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> I have a couple of questions, maybe some of you can help me out. It
>>>> seems to me that web-app development using Tapestry is getting a bit
>>>> slow. I had to turn off page-caching, since my changes weren't showing
>>>> up, and now I end up doing a 10seconds change - compile - redeploy -
>>>> test cycle.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone one you faced this problem? How do I:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Speed up Tapestry initialization:
>>>>
>>>> 15:54:11,620 INFO [org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet]
>>>> Initialized
>>>> application servlet 'SigepWeb': 5,658 millis to create HiveMind
>>>> Registry, 12,278 millis overall.
>>>>
>>>> ... 12 seconds, is this normal? My app barely has 6 pages!
>>>>
>>>> 2) I guess this could be a non-Tapestry related issue. But maybe
>>>> someone
>>>> can help. How do I use hot-deploying on tomcat for Tapestry classes?
>>>> Everytime I change a page's code I have to restart the whole app
>>>> (that's
>>>> 30secs for Spring, 12-15secs for Tapestry - a whole minute on every
>>>> page
>>>> change?). Things would be so much better if JBoss didn't throw its
>>>> hot-deployment errors on me. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> 3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
>>>> tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I
>>>> make
>>>> to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
>>>> minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
>>>>
>>>> (btw, I'm using MyEclipse 4M3 on a JBoss server. Maybe I could change
>>>> servers, any recommendations?)
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I think that's all. Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Slow development cycle
Posted by Andreas Andreou <an...@di.uoa.gr>.
Geoff Longman wrote:
>Jetty and JettyLauncher (http:jettylauncher.sf.net) (along with tap
>cache disabling and the reset service) for me on the desktop makes
>debugging a snap. We deploy into Tomcat in all other environments.
>
>
That's also the configuration i ended up with.
Jetty's startup time is a fraction of Tomcat's.
Additionally, it really pays off to have your templates fully
previewable as
html files. It allows you to do even faster html, css and even
javascript tweeking
completely outside of your servlet container.
>Geoff
>
>On 9/2/05, Inge Solvoll <ta...@ingenett.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I'm running tomcat 5 separately from jboss, and hot deploy of tapestry
>>java code from eclipse works just fine for me. Maybe a change to
>>tomcat/jboss, instead of just jboss, could work for you?
>>
>>I also use MyEclipse with tomcat and jboss running integrated with
>>debugging in eclipse.
>>
>>Inge
>>
>>Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi again,
>>>
>>>I have a couple of questions, maybe some of you can help me out. It
>>>seems to me that web-app development using Tapestry is getting a bit
>>>slow. I had to turn off page-caching, since my changes weren't showing
>>>up, and now I end up doing a 10seconds change - compile - redeploy -
>>>test cycle.
>>>
>>>Has anyone one you faced this problem? How do I:
>>>
>>>1) Speed up Tapestry initialization:
>>>
>>>15:54:11,620 INFO [org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet] Initialized
>>>application servlet 'SigepWeb': 5,658 millis to create HiveMind
>>>Registry, 12,278 millis overall.
>>>
>>>... 12 seconds, is this normal? My app barely has 6 pages!
>>>
>>>2) I guess this could be a non-Tapestry related issue. But maybe someone
>>>can help. How do I use hot-deploying on tomcat for Tapestry classes?
>>>Everytime I change a page's code I have to restart the whole app (that's
>>>30secs for Spring, 12-15secs for Tapestry - a whole minute on every page
>>>change?). Things would be so much better if JBoss didn't throw its
>>>hot-deployment errors on me. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
>>>tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I make
>>>to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
>>>minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
>>>
>>>(btw, I'm using MyEclipse 4M3 on a JBoss server. Maybe I could change
>>>servers, any recommendations?)
>>>
>>>Ok, I think that's all. Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Slow development cycle
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@gmail.com>.
Jetty and JettyLauncher (http:jettylauncher.sf.net) (along with tap
cache disabling and the reset service) for me on the desktop makes
debugging a snap. We deploy into Tomcat in all other environments.
Geoff
On 9/2/05, Inge Solvoll <ta...@ingenett.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm running tomcat 5 separately from jboss, and hot deploy of tapestry
> java code from eclipse works just fine for me. Maybe a change to
> tomcat/jboss, instead of just jboss, could work for you?
>
> I also use MyEclipse with tomcat and jboss running integrated with
> debugging in eclipse.
>
> Inge
>
> Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I have a couple of questions, maybe some of you can help me out. It
> > seems to me that web-app development using Tapestry is getting a bit
> > slow. I had to turn off page-caching, since my changes weren't showing
> > up, and now I end up doing a 10seconds change - compile - redeploy -
> > test cycle.
> >
> > Has anyone one you faced this problem? How do I:
> >
> > 1) Speed up Tapestry initialization:
> >
> > 15:54:11,620 INFO [org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet] Initialized
> > application servlet 'SigepWeb': 5,658 millis to create HiveMind
> > Registry, 12,278 millis overall.
> >
> > ... 12 seconds, is this normal? My app barely has 6 pages!
> >
> > 2) I guess this could be a non-Tapestry related issue. But maybe someone
> > can help. How do I use hot-deploying on tomcat for Tapestry classes?
> > Everytime I change a page's code I have to restart the whole app (that's
> > 30secs for Spring, 12-15secs for Tapestry - a whole minute on every page
> > change?). Things would be so much better if JBoss didn't throw its
> > hot-deployment errors on me. Any ideas?
> >
> > 3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
> > tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I make
> > to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
> > minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > (btw, I'm using MyEclipse 4M3 on a JBoss server. Maybe I could change
> > servers, any recommendations?)
> >
> > Ok, I think that's all. Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
>
>
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Re: Slow development cycle
Posted by Inge Solvoll <ta...@ingenett.com>.
Hi
I'm running tomcat 5 separately from jboss, and hot deploy of tapestry
java code from eclipse works just fine for me. Maybe a change to
tomcat/jboss, instead of just jboss, could work for you?
I also use MyEclipse with tomcat and jboss running integrated with
debugging in eclipse.
Inge
Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I have a couple of questions, maybe some of you can help me out. It
> seems to me that web-app development using Tapestry is getting a bit
> slow. I had to turn off page-caching, since my changes weren't showing
> up, and now I end up doing a 10seconds change - compile - redeploy -
> test cycle.
>
> Has anyone one you faced this problem? How do I:
>
> 1) Speed up Tapestry initialization:
>
> 15:54:11,620 INFO [org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet] Initialized
> application servlet 'SigepWeb': 5,658 millis to create HiveMind
> Registry, 12,278 millis overall.
>
> ... 12 seconds, is this normal? My app barely has 6 pages!
>
> 2) I guess this could be a non-Tapestry related issue. But maybe someone
> can help. How do I use hot-deploying on tomcat for Tapestry classes?
> Everytime I change a page's code I have to restart the whole app (that's
> 30secs for Spring, 12-15secs for Tapestry - a whole minute on every page
> change?). Things would be so much better if JBoss didn't throw its
> hot-deployment errors on me. Any ideas?
>
> 3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
> tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I make
> to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
> minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
>
> (btw, I'm using MyEclipse 4M3 on a JBoss server. Maybe I could change
> servers, any recommendations?)
>
> Ok, I think that's all. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
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Re: Slow development cycle
Posted by Luc Peerdeman <lj...@xs4all.nl>.
Hi Leonardo,
You wrote:
> 3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
> tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I make
> to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
> minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
Better is to set disable-caching to false as you did, additionally set
enable-reset-service to true, and then use the reset service during
development. Url is the same as for getting a page through the page
service, just use 'reset' as the service name.
Cheers, Luc.
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Re: Slow development cycle
Posted by Tomáš Drenčák <to...@gmail.com>.
I work with tomcat and there's an eclipse tomcat plugin. Hot deploying
works fine until I add/remove some methods, then I have to restart an
application. And I have turned off page chaching so changes can be
seen immediately. But its still not very fast... Maybe someone has
better develping/deployment strategy. Please share!
tomas
2005/9/2, Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi <le...@dtqsoftware.com>:
> Hi again,
>
> I have a couple of questions, maybe some of you can help me out. It
> seems to me that web-app development using Tapestry is getting a bit
> slow. I had to turn off page-caching, since my changes weren't showing
> up, and now I end up doing a 10seconds change - compile - redeploy -
> test cycle.
>
> Has anyone one you faced this problem? How do I:
>
> 1) Speed up Tapestry initialization:
>
> 15:54:11,620 INFO [org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet] Initialized
> application servlet 'SigepWeb': 5,658 millis to create HiveMind
> Registry, 12,278 millis overall.
>
> ... 12 seconds, is this normal? My app barely has 6 pages!
>
> 2) I guess this could be a non-Tapestry related issue. But maybe someone
> can help. How do I use hot-deploying on tomcat for Tapestry classes?
> Everytime I change a page's code I have to restart the whole app (that's
> 30secs for Spring, 12-15secs for Tapestry - a whole minute on every page
> change?). Things would be so much better if JBoss didn't throw its
> hot-deployment errors on me. Any ideas?
>
> 3) Develop with the Tapestry cache enabled. I found out I couldn't use
> tapestry page cache while developing. It doesn't get any changes I make
> to a page, and I end up rebouncing the app (yep, that's another
> minute!). Am I doing something wrong?
>
> (btw, I'm using MyEclipse 4M3 on a JBoss server. Maybe I could change
> servers, any recommendations?)
>
> Ok, I think that's all. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
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> Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi
> Director Técnico
> DTQ Software
>
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