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Posted to qa@openoffice.apache.org by Georges Bolssens <ma...@gmail.com> on 2012/11/22 23:03:22 UTC

trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Hi,

I was fiddling around with the Testlink system and started testing on
AOOTest100 : Table Cell Protect.

When I protect a cell and try to *type* something into it, I get a dialog
that tells me that I can't because of the protection.

However, when I try to *paste* something in there, there's no dialog with
an error.

I realize that this wasn't what the test was about, but nevertheless I
think it would be better to trigger the dialog when pasting text also.


How do I address this? Is this simply not my call to make and do I run the
test as intended, or do I propose this change to the dev-list?

Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Georges Bolssens <ma...@gmail.com>.
Bug was filed just now:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121393

(yay! found my first bug! :) )


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>wrote:

> Hi Georges,
>
> Georges Bolssens schrieb:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For all clarity, I'm talking about tables in *Writer*; not in Calc.
>>
>
> I had missed that.
>
>
>
>> I found similar bug reports in bugzilla that describe this "defect" in
>> product:spreadsheet of OOo 1.1 (bug ID's 28986 and 26965), both reported
>> in
>> 2004.
>>
>> The protection of cells in a Writer table is also a new feature in AOO3.5,
>> if I'm not mistaken?
>>
>
> No, it is quite old. My oldest installed version is OO1.1.5 and there it
> exists already.
>
>
>
>> I'll make a step by step reproduction procedure in Bugzilla and attach a
>> file that has the defect on my system.
>>
>
> With a Writer table I can confirm your observation.
>
> You should indeed write a bug. Please ask and mention it here, if you do
> not find all information for creating a bug, so that we can improve the
> descriptions.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>

Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Georges,

Georges Bolssens schrieb:
> Hi all,
>
> For all clarity, I'm talking about tables in *Writer*; not in Calc.

I had missed that.

>
> I found similar bug reports in bugzilla that describe this "defect" in
> product:spreadsheet of OOo 1.1 (bug ID's 28986 and 26965), both reported in
> 2004.
>
> The protection of cells in a Writer table is also a new feature in AOO3.5,
> if I'm not mistaken?

No, it is quite old. My oldest installed version is OO1.1.5 and there it 
exists already.

>
> I'll make a step by step reproduction procedure in Bugzilla and attach a
> file that has the defect on my system.

With a Writer table I can confirm your observation.

You should indeed write a bug. Please ask and mention it here, if you do 
not find all information for creating a bug, so that we can improve the 
descriptions.

Kind regards
Regina


Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Georges Bolssens <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

For all clarity, I'm talking about tables in *Writer*; not in Calc.

I found similar bug reports in bugzilla that describe this "defect" in
product:spreadsheet of OOo 1.1 (bug ID's 28986 and 26965), both reported in
2004.

The protection of cells in a Writer table is also a new feature in AOO3.5,
if I'm not mistaken?

I'll make a step by step reproduction procedure in Bugzilla and attach a
file that has the defect on my system.


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>wrote:

> Hi,
> Ji Yan schrieb:
>
>  Jing,
>>
>>    I have a little difference opinion. Compare behavior with sheet
>> protection. after enable sheet protection in spreadsheet, whenever input
>> or
>> paste text into it, there is always a warning dialog to let user know the
>> sheet is protected. So back to this story I think it's a defect rather
>> than
>> enhancement.
>>
>>    @Georges, I think you can open a defect to report this issue. Here is a
>> reference for how to fire a bug[1]
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue>
>>
>
> I'm not able to reproduce it. I get always a message that the cell is
> protected, whether I try to write or try to paste something into it. I use
> ods-document in AOO on WinXP.
>
> So it is very important, to attach a document which shows the bug and a
> very exact description how to reproduce it.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>

Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi,
Ji Yan schrieb:
> Jing,
>
>    I have a little difference opinion. Compare behavior with sheet
> protection. after enable sheet protection in spreadsheet, whenever input or
> paste text into it, there is always a warning dialog to let user know the
> sheet is protected. So back to this story I think it's a defect rather than
> enhancement.
>
>    @Georges, I think you can open a defect to report this issue. Here is a
> reference for how to fire a bug[1]
>
> [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue

I'm not able to reproduce it. I get always a message that the cell is 
protected, whether I try to write or try to paste something into it. I 
use ods-document in AOO on WinXP.

So it is very important, to attach a document which shows the bug and a 
very exact description how to reproduce it.

Kind regards
Regina


Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Ji Yan <ya...@gmail.com>.
Jing,

  I have a little difference opinion. Compare behavior with sheet
protection. after enable sheet protection in spreadsheet, whenever input or
paste text into it, there is always a warning dialog to let user know the
sheet is protected. So back to this story I think it's a defect rather than
enhancement.

  @Georges, I think you can open a defect to report this issue. Here is a
reference for how to fire a bug[1]

[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Du Jing <bj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have submitted a related defect which is about protect effect lost when
> save to doc,there is defect link:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120745,
> you can reference it.
> for your problem description,I think it is not a defect,but from user
> friendly degree,suggest fix it as a feature enhancement,and you can file it
> in bugzilla and set its type as "Enhancement"~
>
> This is bugzilla adress:https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ji Yan <ya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I thought Du Jing reported similar issue before.
> >
> > @Du Jing, please correct me if i'm wrong.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Georges Bolssens wrote:
> > >
> > >> I realize that this wasn't what the test was about, but nevertheless I
> > >> think it would be better to trigger the dialog when pasting text also.
> > >> How do I address this? Is this simply not my call to make and do I run
> > the
> > >> test as intended, or do I propose this change to the dev-list?
> > >>
> > >
> > > If, for whatever reason, you bump into something that looks like a bug
> > > (which could be this case, but cell protection is often misunderstood,
> so
> > > have a look that this case is not covered in the help -F1- already),
> then
> > > the best procedure is:
> > > 1 - Describe a minimal, step-by-step, procedure to repeat it from an
> > empty
> > > document
> > > 2 - If, like in this case, you are undecided whether it is actually a
> > bug,
> > > feel free to check here on the qa list
> > > 3 - Open a bug report at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ (check for
> > > duplicates before posting)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >   Andrea.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
> >
>



-- 


Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji

Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Du Jing <bj...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

I have submitted a related defect which is about protect effect lost when
save to doc,there is defect link:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120745,
you can reference it.
for your problem description,I think it is not a defect,but from user
friendly degree,suggest fix it as a feature enhancement,and you can file it
in bugzilla and set its type as "Enhancement"~

This is bugzilla adress:https://issues.apache.org/ooo/



On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ji Yan <ya...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought Du Jing reported similar issue before.
>
> @Du Jing, please correct me if i'm wrong.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org
> >wrote:
>
> > Georges Bolssens wrote:
> >
> >> I realize that this wasn't what the test was about, but nevertheless I
> >> think it would be better to trigger the dialog when pasting text also.
> >> How do I address this? Is this simply not my call to make and do I run
> the
> >> test as intended, or do I propose this change to the dev-list?
> >>
> >
> > If, for whatever reason, you bump into something that looks like a bug
> > (which could be this case, but cell protection is often misunderstood, so
> > have a look that this case is not covered in the help -F1- already), then
> > the best procedure is:
> > 1 - Describe a minimal, step-by-step, procedure to repeat it from an
> empty
> > document
> > 2 - If, like in this case, you are undecided whether it is actually a
> bug,
> > feel free to check here on the qa list
> > 3 - Open a bug report at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ (check for
> > duplicates before posting)
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
>

Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Ji Yan <ya...@gmail.com>.
I thought Du Jing reported similar issue before.

@Du Jing, please correct me if i'm wrong.


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> Georges Bolssens wrote:
>
>> I realize that this wasn't what the test was about, but nevertheless I
>> think it would be better to trigger the dialog when pasting text also.
>> How do I address this? Is this simply not my call to make and do I run the
>> test as intended, or do I propose this change to the dev-list?
>>
>
> If, for whatever reason, you bump into something that looks like a bug
> (which could be this case, but cell protection is often misunderstood, so
> have a look that this case is not covered in the help -F1- already), then
> the best procedure is:
> 1 - Describe a minimal, step-by-step, procedure to repeat it from an empty
> document
> 2 - If, like in this case, you are undecided whether it is actually a bug,
> feel free to check here on the qa list
> 3 - Open a bug report at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ (check for
> duplicates before posting)
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>



-- 


Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji

Re: trying out testlink system. What to do when you find something else wrong than what the test is aimed at?

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Georges Bolssens wrote:
> I realize that this wasn't what the test was about, but nevertheless I
> think it would be better to trigger the dialog when pasting text also.
> How do I address this? Is this simply not my call to make and do I run the
> test as intended, or do I propose this change to the dev-list?

If, for whatever reason, you bump into something that looks like a bug 
(which could be this case, but cell protection is often misunderstood, 
so have a look that this case is not covered in the help -F1- already), 
then the best procedure is:
1 - Describe a minimal, step-by-step, procedure to repeat it from an 
empty document
2 - If, like in this case, you are undecided whether it is actually a 
bug, feel free to check here on the qa list
3 - Open a bug report at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ (check for 
duplicates before posting)

Regards,
   Andrea.