Re: [proposal] removing non-ASF leaves from the workspace

[Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>]

Adam R. B. Jack wrote:

>>there are a few projects that gump builds that are not ASF projects and
>>are not used by any ASF project. I think the ASF already has enough
>>things to build for ourselves and gump is not a public service.
> 
> 
> I hear you, but since Gump was a "social experiment" not an ASF build tool,
> some of this was reach out. Don't forget that some non-ASF projects that
> Gump built became ASF projects, e.g. ws-juddi.

I'm about to propose that we change that 'social experiment' tagline and 
we turn this into a more solid thing for the ASF.

>>I personally think that it is abusive for comitters to use their access
>>to add projects that are not required.
> 
> I don't know as much (partly since I added a few of them ;-). Other folks
> had the ability to -1 any. We used to run once a day, and as such it wasn't
> such a big deal.

Right, we also used to run at 60%, things are changing.

>>Examples of such projects are Barcode4j, Antworks, Smartfrog, but I'm
>>sure I can found more (and, in fact, I'll write some code to outline
>>those and automate the checks).
> 
> 
>>I propose that we remove those projects from the gump.xml profile that
>>is ran on brutus (we can keep the descriptors there, that doesn't hurt)
>>but I would like to remove all those "leaves" projects from using
>>cpu/disk space.
>>
>>WTDY?
> 
> 
> We have grown a lot larger in recent months, and are using a lot more
> CPU/disk. Further, we are trying to do more than one Gump workspace (JDK1.5,
> Kaffe, etc.) As such, maybe we do have to trim down. If it helps with that
> that, then go for it.

> For Gump to scale (as Niclas mentioned) we do need to federate somehow, but
> that is a separate topic & this seems a practical step until then. Folks who
> really want to be included could petition us for re-inclusion.

I find particularely silly that we have a projects that:

  1) are not from the ASF
  2) no ASF project depends on
  3) and they constantly don't build and nobody seems to care

I find the combination of the above enough to remove a project from our 
builds.

-- 
Stefano.