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Posted to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Craig Ringer <ri...@ringerc.id.au> on 2012/02/29 08:52:03 UTC

XSL-FO 2.0 ?

Hi all

As part of reading and research on support for features I need like more 
flexible column spans, copyfitting, space-conditional alternative 
content, run-arounds, and non-square page masters, I've stumbled across 
the XSL-FO 2.0 requirements draft. It seems to specify everything I need:

http://www.w3.org/TR/xslfo20-req/

It was was published in March 2008, and I don't see any working draft of 
an XSL-FO 2.0 specification as yet.

I'm finding more and more things where I'm having to break out of the 
XSL-FO model to post-process the area tree in order to achieve what I 
want. It's getting to the point where I'm questioning whether it's worth 
using XSL-FO at all for my processes, despite my requirements being 
relatively simple things like vertical space copyfitting with 
conditional spacer content where required, reserving blank areas on 
specific pages, etc.

I haven't seen any discussion of XSL-FO 2.0 here, perhaps unsurprisingly 
given that fop doesn't have full 1.1 support yet.

Has anyone here been looking at XSL-FO 2.0? I'm really eyeing features 
from XSL-FO 2.0 like:

- Adjustible region sizes
- n-column spans
- n-column floats (to use with conditional content to match page numbers)
- copyfitting (especially feathering) and space-conditional content
- Text/content before or after a break
- Column balancing
- Spanning columns in nested formatting objects

Anyone know anything about FO 2.0, progress, people interested, etc? How 
are others handling these sorts of things?

--
Craig Ringer

Re: XSL-FO 2.0 ?

Posted by Vincent Hennebert <vh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Craig,

On 29/02/12 07:52, Craig Ringer wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> As part of reading and research on support for features I need like more
> flexible column spans, copyfitting, space-conditional alternative content,
> run-arounds, and non-square page masters, I've stumbled across the XSL-FO 2.0
> requirements draft. It seems to specify everything I need:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xslfo20-req/
> 
> It was was published in March 2008, and I don't see any working draft of an
> XSL-FO 2.0 specification as yet.

A Working Draft of XSL-FO 2.0 has actually recently been published:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xslfo20/


> I'm finding more and more things where I'm having to break out of the XSL-FO
> model to post-process the area tree in order to achieve what I want. It's
> getting to the point where I'm questioning whether it's worth using XSL-FO at
> all for my processes, despite my requirements being relatively simple things
> like vertical space copyfitting with conditional spacer content where
> required, reserving blank areas on specific pages, etc.

Well the standard is one thing, its implementation another. I suppose
you just have to go for the tool that best suits your needs, be it based
on XSL-FO or something else.


> I haven't seen any discussion of XSL-FO 2.0 here, perhaps unsurprisingly given
> that fop doesn't have full 1.1 support yet.
> 
> Has anyone here been looking at XSL-FO 2.0? I'm really eyeing features from
> XSL-FO 2.0 like:
> 
> - Adjustible region sizes
> - n-column spans
> - n-column floats (to use with conditional content to match page numbers)
> - copyfitting (especially feathering) and space-conditional content
> - Text/content before or after a break
> - Column balancing
> - Spanning columns in nested formatting objects
> 
> Anyone know anything about FO 2.0, progress, people interested, etc? How are
> others handling these sorts of things?

ATM progress on the XSL-FO 2.0 Recommendation is going very slowly due
to a dramatically under-staffed Working Group. It’s unclear when (and
whether) the official Recommendation will be published.

A community group has just been started at the W3C (see my other message
on this subject) with the goal to raise interest in XSL-FO and attract
more people.


HTH,
Vincent

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