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using a browser to edit documents
Hi,
Excuse me if this question isn't 100% slide related, but perhaps someone
can give me some help.
I'm trying to use slide and webdav to access documents through a browser
(specifically Internet Explorer 5 +, although I haven't had much luck
using Konqueror either). The problem is, is that when I click on a link
to retrieve an MS Office document, the correct application is opened but
the MS Office application is editing a temporary file (e.g.
/tmp/MyDoc.doc) instead of a webdav url
(https://slide.mydomain.org/myDocs/MyDoc.doc). That means that you can
view and edit the document, but when you save it it is simply saved in
the local file system instead of being sent back to the server.
Ideally I would like to click on the link, edit the document in the
proper application and then save it directly back to the server.
Is there any way to get this to work? Perhaps by sending some kind of
special information in the header? Or is there some way to configure
Windoze to handle things differently?
Thanks for any help anyone can give me,
Eric
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by "E.A.Holmes" <e....@t-online.at>.
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 22:02, Julian Reschke wrote:
> E.A.Holmes wrote:
> > I also tried to get the file protocol to work (
> > href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a> ) but
> > couldn't seem to make it happen for me. If anyone does I would be
> > interested to hear how.
>
> I'm not sure why you bring up file: URLs here? "file:" URLs always refer
> to locally accessibly files and have nothing to do with HTTP or WebDAV.
>
> Julian
The file protocol was an idea mentioned on this list, just wanted to
give my status on the tip.
>A friend of mine told me that he saw this sort of thing working, where
>he did not use a link object with the http protocol, but with the file
>protocol. So <a
>href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a>
>worked for him. This has not been tested by me though.
Eric
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by Julian Reschke <ju...@gmx.de>.
E.A.Holmes wrote:
> Julian,
>
> Thanks for the tip! The <a href="http://foobar" folder="http://foobar"
> style="behavior: url(#default#AnchorClick)">...</a> is exactly what I
> was looking for.
> I usually try to keep my code as browser independent as possible, but
> this is one of those cases when I'm glad I can use the added
> functionality.
>
> I also tried to get the file protocol to work (
> href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a> ) but
> couldn't seem to make it happen for me. If anyone does I would be
> interested to hear how.
I'm not sure why you bring up file: URLs here? "file:" URLs always refer
to locally accessibly files and have nothing to do with HTTP or WebDAV.
Julian
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by "E.A.Holmes" <e....@t-online.at>.
Julian,
Thanks for the tip! The <a href="http://foobar" folder="http://foobar"
style="behavior: url(#default#AnchorClick)">...</a> is exactly what I
was looking for.
I usually try to keep my code as browser independent as possible, but
this is one of those cases when I'm glad I can use the added
functionality.
I also tried to get the file protocol to work (
href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a> ) but
couldn't seem to make it happen for me. If anyone does I would be
interested to hear how.
Thanks again,
Eric
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 16:37, Julian Reschke wrote:
> Julian wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > In order to save a document from MS Office to a webdav
> > location you will have to add the webdav folder as a
> > network place (this avoids having to enter the URL
> > every time on save). The other option is to have the
> > document open in the browser via embedded office (i.e.
> > office opens in IE) and save the document. I believe
> > this second option should automatically remember the
> > webdav location and save properly. As far as
> > launching the MS "Webfolder" from IE, you must use the
> > following script:
> >
> > <HTML>
> > <HEAD>
> > <title>MS Webfolder</title>
> > <STYLE>
> > .hFolder{behavior:url(#default#httpFolder);}
> > </STYLE>
> > <SCRIPT>
> > function fnNavigate(){
> > oViewFolder.navigate(URL);
> > }
> > </SCRIPT>
> > </HEAD>
> > <BODY onload="fnNavigate()" ID="oViewFolder"
> > CLASS="hFolder" >
> > </BODY>
> > </HTML>
>
> Or simply:
>
> <a href="http://foobar" folder="http://foobar" style="behavior:
> url(#default#AnchorClick)">...</a>
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by Julian Reschke <ju...@gmx.de>.
Julian wrote:
> Eric,
>
> In order to save a document from MS Office to a webdav
> location you will have to add the webdav folder as a
> network place (this avoids having to enter the URL
> every time on save). The other option is to have the
> document open in the browser via embedded office (i.e.
> office opens in IE) and save the document. I believe
> this second option should automatically remember the
> webdav location and save properly. As far as
> launching the MS "Webfolder" from IE, you must use the
> following script:
>
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
> <title>MS Webfolder</title>
> <STYLE>
> .hFolder{behavior:url(#default#httpFolder);}
> </STYLE>
> <SCRIPT>
> function fnNavigate(){
> oViewFolder.navigate(URL);
> }
> </SCRIPT>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY onload="fnNavigate()" ID="oViewFolder"
> CLASS="hFolder" >
> </BODY>
> </HTML>
Or simply:
<a href="http://foobar" folder="http://foobar" style="behavior:
url(#default#AnchorClick)">...</a>
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by Julian <ce...@yahoo.com>.
Eric,
In order to save a document from MS Office to a webdav
location you will have to add the webdav folder as a
network place (this avoids having to enter the URL
every time on save). The other option is to have the
document open in the browser via embedded office (i.e.
office opens in IE) and save the document. I believe
this second option should automatically remember the
webdav location and save properly. As far as
launching the MS "Webfolder" from IE, you must use the
following script:
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>MS Webfolder</title>
<STYLE>
.hFolder{behavior:url(#default#httpFolder);}
</STYLE>
<SCRIPT>
function fnNavigate(){
oViewFolder.navigate(URL);
}
</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>
<BODY onload="fnNavigate()" ID="oViewFolder"
CLASS="hFolder" >
</BODY>
</HTML>
--- Mike Oliver <ol...@matrix-media.com> wrote:
> Yes and there is also a way to open a web folder
> from a link, but I
> don't have that syntax handy.
>
> Ollie
>
> J�rgen Hoffmann wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > A friend of mine told me that he saw this sort of
> thing working, where
> > he did not use a link object with the http
> protocol, but with the file
> > protocol. So <a
> >
>
href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a>
>
> > worked for him. This has not been tested by me
> though.
> >
> > if it works, please give a shout.
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > J�rgen Hoffmann
> >
> > e.holmes@t-online.at wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> I understand why it's not working, I was just
> hoping against all hopes
> >> that their might be some way into 'tricking' IE
> and/or Windows into
> >> passing an URL to the Office product instead of
> saving the file locally
> >> and then passing the local file name. There are
> so many situations
> >> when this kind of behavior would be desirable.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> Mike Oliver schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>> When you open it with IE you are NOT using
> WebDAV, you
> >>> are just doing an HTTP get of the file, no
> different really than
> >>> from any
> >>> other HTTP server. To use WebDAV you need to
> open it from a Web
> >>> Folder (Technically you could do it from the
> File->Open in
> >>> Word....but I digress).
> >>>
> >>> To do that you go to your "Network Places", then
> "Add New
> >>> Network Place" and put in the URL you were using
> to the Slide folder
> >>> where your document is.
> >>>
> >>> After you authenticate you will be able to use
> Microsoft
> >>> Office products to open then with WebDAV and
> save your changes
> >>> back. The
> >>> document will be locked while you have it open
> and will be unlocked
> >>> when you close it.
> >>>
> >>> Ollie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> E.A.Holmes wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Excuse me if this question isn't 100% slide
> related, but
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> perhaps someone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> can give me some help.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm trying to use slide and webdav to access
> documents
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> through a browser
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> (specifically Internet Explorer 5 +, although I
> haven't
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> had much luck
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> using Konqueror either). The problem is, is
> that when I
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> click on a link
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> to retrieve an MS Office document, the correct
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> application is opened but
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> the MS Office application is editing a
> temporary file
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> (e.g.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> /tmp/MyDoc.doc) instead of a webdav url
> >>>> (https://slide.mydomain.org/myDocs/MyDoc.doc).
> That
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> means that you can
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> view and edit the document, but when you save
> it it is
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> simply saved in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> the local file system instead of being sent
> back to the
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> server.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ideally I would like to click on the link, edit
> the
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> document in the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> proper application and then save it directly
> back to the
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> server.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Is there any way to get this to work? Perhaps
> by
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> sending some kind of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> special information in the header? Or is there
> some way
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> to configure
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Windoze to handle things differently?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for any help anyone can give me,
> >>>>
> >>>> Eric
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by Mike Oliver <ol...@matrix-media.com>.
Yes and there is also a way to open a web folder from a link, but I
don't have that syntax handy.
Ollie
Jürgen Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A friend of mine told me that he saw this sort of thing working, where
> he did not use a link object with the http protocol, but with the file
> protocol. So <a
> href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a>
> worked for him. This has not been tested by me though.
>
> if it works, please give a shout.
>
> kind regards
>
> Jürgen Hoffmann
>
> e.holmes@t-online.at wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I understand why it's not working, I was just hoping against all hopes
>> that their might be some way into 'tricking' IE and/or Windows into
>> passing an URL to the Office product instead of saving the file locally
>> and then passing the local file name. There are so many situations
>> when this kind of behavior would be desirable.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> Mike Oliver schrieb:
>>
>>
>>> When you open it with IE you are NOT using WebDAV, you
>>> are just doing an HTTP get of the file, no different really than
>>> from any
>>> other HTTP server. To use WebDAV you need to open it from a Web
>>> Folder (Technically you could do it from the File->Open in
>>> Word....but I digress).
>>>
>>> To do that you go to your "Network Places", then "Add New
>>> Network Place" and put in the URL you were using to the Slide folder
>>> where your document is.
>>>
>>> After you authenticate you will be able to use Microsoft
>>> Office products to open then with WebDAV and save your changes
>>> back. The
>>> document will be locked while you have it open and will be unlocked
>>> when you close it.
>>>
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>> E.A.Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Excuse me if this question isn't 100% slide related, but
>>>>
>>>
>>> perhaps someone
>>>
>>>
>>>> can give me some help.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to use slide and webdav to access documents
>>>>
>>>
>>> through a browser
>>>
>>>
>>>> (specifically Internet Explorer 5 +, although I haven't
>>>>
>>>
>>> had much luck
>>>
>>>
>>>> using Konqueror either). The problem is, is that when I
>>>>
>>>
>>> click on a link
>>>
>>>
>>>> to retrieve an MS Office document, the correct
>>>>
>>>
>>> application is opened but
>>>
>>>
>>>> the MS Office application is editing a temporary file
>>>>
>>>
>>> (e.g.
>>>
>>>
>>>> /tmp/MyDoc.doc) instead of a webdav url
>>>> (https://slide.mydomain.org/myDocs/MyDoc.doc). That
>>>>
>>>
>>> means that you can
>>>
>>>
>>>> view and edit the document, but when you save it it is
>>>>
>>>
>>> simply saved in
>>>
>>>
>>>> the local file system instead of being sent back to the
>>>>
>>>
>>> server.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ideally I would like to click on the link, edit the
>>>>
>>>
>>> document in the
>>>
>>>
>>>> proper application and then save it directly back to the
>>>>
>>>
>>> server.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to get this to work? Perhaps by
>>>>
>>>
>>> sending some kind of
>>>
>>>
>>>> special information in the header? Or is there some way
>>>>
>>>
>>> to configure
>>>
>>>
>>>> Windoze to handle things differently?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help anyone can give me,
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by Jürgen Hoffmann <jh...@byteaction.de>.
Hi,
A friend of mine told me that he saw this sort of thing working, where
he did not use a link object with the http protocol, but with the file
protocol. So <a
href="file://webdav.somedomain.com/filepath/file.doc">document</a>
worked for him. This has not been tested by me though.
if it works, please give a shout.
kind regards
Jürgen Hoffmann
e.holmes@t-online.at wrote:
>Thanks.
>
>I understand why it's not working, I was just hoping against all hopes
>that their might be some way into 'tricking' IE and/or Windows into
>passing an URL to the Office product instead of saving the file locally
>and then passing the local file name. There are so many situations
>when this kind of behavior would be desirable.
>
>Eric
>
>Mike Oliver schrieb:
>
>
>>When you open it with IE you are NOT using WebDAV, you
>>are just doing an
>>HTTP get of the file, no different really than from any
>>other HTTP
>>server. To use WebDAV you need to open it from a Web
>>Folder
>>(Technically you could do it from the File->Open in
>>Word....but I digress).
>>
>>To do that you go to your "Network Places", then "Add New
>>Network Place"
>>and put in the URL you were using to the Slide folder
>>where your
>>document is.
>>
>>After you authenticate you will be able to use Microsoft
>>Office products
>>to open then with WebDAV and save your changes back. The
>>document will
>>be locked while you have it open and will be unlocked
>>when you close it.
>>
>>Ollie
>>
>>
>>E.A.Holmes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Excuse me if this question isn't 100% slide related, but
>>>
>>>
>>perhaps someone
>>
>>
>>>can give me some help.
>>>
>>>I'm trying to use slide and webdav to access documents
>>>
>>>
>>through a browser
>>
>>
>>>(specifically Internet Explorer 5 +, although I haven't
>>>
>>>
>>had much luck
>>
>>
>>>using Konqueror either). The problem is, is that when I
>>>
>>>
>>click on a link
>>
>>
>>>to retrieve an MS Office document, the correct
>>>
>>>
>>application is opened but
>>
>>
>>>the MS Office application is editing a temporary file
>>>
>>>
>>(e.g.
>>
>>
>>>/tmp/MyDoc.doc) instead of a webdav url
>>>(https://slide.mydomain.org/myDocs/MyDoc.doc). That
>>>
>>>
>>means that you can
>>
>>
>>>view and edit the document, but when you save it it is
>>>
>>>
>>simply saved in
>>
>>
>>>the local file system instead of being sent back to the
>>>
>>>
>>server.
>>
>>
>>>Ideally I would like to click on the link, edit the
>>>
>>>
>>document in the
>>
>>
>>>proper application and then save it directly back to the
>>>
>>>
>>server.
>>
>>
>>>Is there any way to get this to work? Perhaps by
>>>
>>>
>>sending some kind of
>>
>>
>>>special information in the header? Or is there some way
>>>
>>>
>>to configure
>>
>>
>>>Windoze to handle things differently?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help anyone can give me,
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by e....@t-online.at.
Thanks.
I understand why it's not working, I was just hoping against all hopes
that their might be some way into 'tricking' IE and/or Windows into
passing an URL to the Office product instead of saving the file locally
and then passing the local file name. There are so many situations
when this kind of behavior would be desirable.
Eric
Mike Oliver schrieb:
> When you open it with IE you are NOT using WebDAV, you
> are just doing an
> HTTP get of the file, no different really than from any
> other HTTP
> server. To use WebDAV you need to open it from a Web
> Folder
> (Technically you could do it from the File->Open in
> Word....but I digress).
>
> To do that you go to your "Network Places", then "Add New
> Network Place"
> and put in the URL you were using to the Slide folder
> where your
> document is.
>
> After you authenticate you will be able to use Microsoft
> Office products
> to open then with WebDAV and save your changes back. The
> document will
> be locked while you have it open and will be unlocked
> when you close it.
>
> Ollie
>
>
> E.A.Holmes wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Excuse me if this question isn't 100% slide related, but
> perhaps someone
> >can give me some help.
> >
> >I'm trying to use slide and webdav to access documents
> through a browser
> >(specifically Internet Explorer 5 +, although I haven't
> had much luck
> >using Konqueror either). The problem is, is that when I
> click on a link
> >to retrieve an MS Office document, the correct
> application is opened but
> >the MS Office application is editing a temporary file
> (e.g.
> >/tmp/MyDoc.doc) instead of a webdav url
> >(https://slide.mydomain.org/myDocs/MyDoc.doc). That
> means that you can
> >view and edit the document, but when you save it it is
> simply saved in
> >the local file system instead of being sent back to the
> server.
> >Ideally I would like to click on the link, edit the
> document in the
> >proper application and then save it directly back to the
> server.
> >
> >Is there any way to get this to work? Perhaps by
> sending some kind of
> >special information in the header? Or is there some way
> to configure
> >Windoze to handle things differently?
> >
> >Thanks for any help anyone can give me,
> >
> >Eric
> >
> >
>
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Re: using a browser to edit documents
Posted by Mike Oliver <ol...@matrix-media.com>.
When you open it with IE you are NOT using WebDAV, you are just doing an
HTTP get of the file, no different really than from any other HTTP
server. To use WebDAV you need to open it from a Web Folder
(Technically you could do it from the File->Open in Word....but I digress).
To do that you go to your "Network Places", then "Add New Network Place"
and put in the URL you were using to the Slide folder where your
document is.
After you authenticate you will be able to use Microsoft Office products
to open then with WebDAV and save your changes back. The document will
be locked while you have it open and will be unlocked when you close it.
Ollie
E.A.Holmes wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Excuse me if this question isn't 100% slide related, but perhaps someone
>can give me some help.
>
>I'm trying to use slide and webdav to access documents through a browser
>(specifically Internet Explorer 5 +, although I haven't had much luck
>using Konqueror either). The problem is, is that when I click on a link
>to retrieve an MS Office document, the correct application is opened but
>the MS Office application is editing a temporary file (e.g.
>/tmp/MyDoc.doc) instead of a webdav url
>(https://slide.mydomain.org/myDocs/MyDoc.doc). That means that you can
>view and edit the document, but when you save it it is simply saved in
>the local file system instead of being sent back to the server.
>Ideally I would like to click on the link, edit the document in the
>proper application and then save it directly back to the server.
>
>Is there any way to get this to work? Perhaps by sending some kind of
>special information in the header? Or is there some way to configure
>Windoze to handle things differently?
>
>Thanks for any help anyone can give me,
>
>Eric
>
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