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Posted to dev@jena.apache.org by Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org> on 2014/11/26 12:56:44 UTC
Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to both
say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to other
existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
(Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to throw
out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
Kong -
This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles. This is
also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
Quadrupling your Elephants
Quadoop -
Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
Rob
Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by "Bruno P. Kinoshita" <ki...@apache.org>.
Liked most names posted here.
Log4J had a poll for their new logo and it was a huge success :) [1]
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316
From: Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org>
To: dev@jena.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
I do like that and I'll add it to the list of possibilities.
Though I wonder if it might be a bit tongue in cheek naming a big data
project a word that translates as "the art of singing and dancing".
Particularly since I've seen a certain amount of stuff implying that the
big data movement is reaching the so-called trough of disillusionment
Other new suggestions from the wider community via Twitter:
- Leave as-is but acronym down to TFH - Note that TFH is a rotational
ciphering of RDF -
https://twitter.com/shanecurcuru/status/537613880483405824
- Tridoop - I like this slightly better than Quadoop -
https://twitter.com/juansequeda/status/537616657762779136
- Howda - https://twitter.com/jervenbolleman/status/537639519399710720
At this rate I think I'm going to have to run some sort of poll for people
to vote on!
Thanks all, further suggestions welcome
Rob
On 26/11/2014 15:53, "Phil Coates" <ph...@sparqlr.com> wrote:
>kabuki?
>
>On 26 November 2014 at 14:22, Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes I much prefer Kong
>>
>> Ponnuki is nice and fits the existing theme but I would be concerned
>>that
>> it would be confused with Fuseki or considered related when it is really
>> not
>>
>> I'll leave this a few days and see what other people think
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 26/11/2014 13:29, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
>> >> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to
>> >>both
>> >> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to
>> >>other
>> >> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
>> >> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
>> >>
>> >> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to
>> >>throw
>> >> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
>> >> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
>> >
>> >Either sound good ...
>> >
>> >For me, Kong > Quadoop.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Kong -
>> >>
>> >> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles.
>> >>This is
>> >> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
>> >> Quadrupling your Elephants
>> >>
>> >> Quadoop -
>> >>
>> >> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
>> >> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
>> >
>> >This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
>> >WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
>> >unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
>> >search).
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org>.
I do like that and I'll add it to the list of possibilities.
Though I wonder if it might be a bit tongue in cheek naming a big data
project a word that translates as "the art of singing and dancing".
Particularly since I've seen a certain amount of stuff implying that the
big data movement is reaching the so-called trough of disillusionment
Other new suggestions from the wider community via Twitter:
- Leave as-is but acronym down to TFH - Note that TFH is a rotational
ciphering of RDF -
https://twitter.com/shanecurcuru/status/537613880483405824
- Tridoop - I like this slightly better than Quadoop -
https://twitter.com/juansequeda/status/537616657762779136
- Howda - https://twitter.com/jervenbolleman/status/537639519399710720
At this rate I think I'm going to have to run some sort of poll for people
to vote on!
Thanks all, further suggestions welcome
Rob
On 26/11/2014 15:53, "Phil Coates" <ph...@sparqlr.com> wrote:
>kabuki?
>
>On 26 November 2014 at 14:22, Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes I much prefer Kong
>>
>> Ponnuki is nice and fits the existing theme but I would be concerned
>>that
>> it would be confused with Fuseki or considered related when it is really
>> not
>>
>> I'll leave this a few days and see what other people think
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 26/11/2014 13:29, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
>> >> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to
>> >>both
>> >> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to
>> >>other
>> >> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
>> >> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
>> >>
>> >> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to
>> >>throw
>> >> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
>> >> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
>> >
>> >Either sound good ...
>> >
>> >For me, Kong > Quadoop.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Kong -
>> >>
>> >> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles.
>> >>This is
>> >> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
>> >> Quadrupling your Elephants
>> >>
>> >> Quadoop -
>> >>
>> >> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
>> >> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
>> >
>> >This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
>> >WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
>> >unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
>> >search).
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com>.
*Elephas*
Apache Jena Elephas
Elephas is the genus of the Asian Elephant.
conveys Hadoop by logo, and size by semantic and aural association with
elephant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephas
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Phil Coates <ph...@sparqlr.com>
wrote:
> kabuki?
>
> On 26 November 2014 at 14:22, Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:
>
> > Yes I much prefer Kong
> >
> > Ponnuki is nice and fits the existing theme but I would be concerned that
> > it would be confused with Fuseki or considered related when it is really
> > not
> >
> > I'll leave this a few days and see what other people think
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On 26/11/2014 13:29, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
> > >> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to
> > >>both
> > >> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to
> > >>other
> > >> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
> > >> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
> > >>
> > >> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to
> > >>throw
> > >> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
> > >> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
> > >
> > >Either sound good ...
> > >
> > >For me, Kong > Quadoop.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Kong -
> > >>
> > >> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles.
> > >>This is
> > >> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
> > >> Quadrupling your Elephants
> > >>
> > >> Quadoop -
> > >>
> > >> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
> > >> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
> > >
> > >This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
> > >WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
> > >unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
> > >search).
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Rob
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Phil Coates <ph...@sparqlr.com>.
kabuki?
On 26 November 2014 at 14:22, Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:
> Yes I much prefer Kong
>
> Ponnuki is nice and fits the existing theme but I would be concerned that
> it would be confused with Fuseki or considered related when it is really
> not
>
> I'll leave this a few days and see what other people think
>
> Rob
>
> On 26/11/2014 13:29, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
> >> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to
> >>both
> >> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to
> >>other
> >> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
> >> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
> >>
> >> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to
> >>throw
> >> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
> >> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
> >
> >Either sound good ...
> >
> >For me, Kong > Quadoop.
> >
> >>
> >> Kong -
> >>
> >> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles.
> >>This is
> >> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
> >> Quadrupling your Elephants
> >>
> >> Quadoop -
> >>
> >> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
> >> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
> >
> >This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
> >WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
> >unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
> >search).
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org>.
Yes I much prefer Kong
Ponnuki is nice and fits the existing theme but I would be concerned that
it would be confused with Fuseki or considered related when it is really
not
I'll leave this a few days and see what other people think
Rob
On 26/11/2014 13:29, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
>> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to
>>both
>> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to
>>other
>> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
>> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
>>
>> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to
>>throw
>> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
>> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
>
>Either sound good ...
>
>For me, Kong > Quadoop.
>
>>
>> Kong -
>>
>> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles.
>>This is
>> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
>> Quadrupling your Elephants
>>
>> Quadoop -
>>
>> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
>> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
>
>This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
>WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
>unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
>search).
>
>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org>.
Claude
"RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop is a set of libraries which provide various
basic building blocks which enable you to start writing Hadoop based
applications which work with RDF data."
>From the still in-progress documentation at
http://jena.apache.org/documentation/hadoop/ - note many of the links are
currently broken and this content isn't linked from the rest of the site
yet
Rob
On 26/11/2014 14:25, "Claude Warren" <cl...@xenei.com> wrote:
>What is the brief synopsis of what "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop" does?
>
>On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
>>
>>> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to
>>>both
>>> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to
>>>other
>>> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
>>> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
>>>
>>> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to
>>>throw
>>> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
>>> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
>>>
>>
>> Either sound good ...
>>
>> For me, Kong > Quadoop.
>>
>>
>>> Kong -
>>>
>>> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles.
>>>This
>>> is
>>> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
>>> Quadrupling your Elephants
>>>
>>> Quadoop -
>>>
>>> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
>>> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
>>>
>>
>> This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
>> WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
>> unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
>> search).
>>
>>
>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com>.
What is the brief synopsis of what "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop" does?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
>
>> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to both
>> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to other
>> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
>> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
>>
>> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to throw
>> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
>> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
>>
>
> Either sound good ...
>
> For me, Kong > Quadoop.
>
>
>> Kong -
>>
>> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles. This
>> is
>> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
>> Quadrupling your Elephants
>>
>> Quadoop -
>>
>> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
>> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
>>
>
> This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
> WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
> unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
> search).
>
>
>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki
>
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Re: Better name than "RDF Tools for Apache Hadoop"?
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 26/11/14 11:56, Rob Vesse wrote:
> While certainly accurate and descriptive it is somewhat cumbersome to both
> say and write. It would be nice to have a snappier name similar to other
> existing modules and to try and fit some of the existing naming theme
> (Joseki and Fuseki are terms from the game of Go).
>
> Playing with that thought I had a couple of ideas which I wanted to throw
> out, please feel free to tell me they are ridiculous and suggest
> alternatives (or tell me to just stick with the existing name):
Either sound good ...
For me, Kong > Quadoop.
>
> Kong -
>
> This is a term from Mahjong meaning a set of four identical tiles. This is
> also a play on words inspired by the title of my ApacheCon talk -
> Quadrupling your Elephants
>
> Quadoop -
>
> Simple contraction of Quad and Hadoop. Rather tacky and probably not
> particularly ASF brand and trademark friendly
This would be ancillary name and probably properly written "Apache Jena
WORD" on first use / formal use / references. It should be no problem
unless there is closely related software (which I can't find on a quick
search).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnuki