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Posted to dev@jackrabbit.apache.org by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> on 2012/02/24 11:36:23 UTC
[jr3] Codename
Hi,
As mentioned in the proposed strategic plan [1], I'd like us to come
up with a codename other than just "Jackrabbit 3" or "jr3" for the
work to implement the new repository.
The name should be short, easy to remember (and type) and unique
enough to be easily searchable (i.e. there shouldn't already be
millions of Google hits for the name) and to not conflict with
existing software products. It would be nice if the name had some
relation to trees, content or our existing "Jackrabbit" branch (my
wife would suggest we use "Bunny" :-). See also [2] for generic naming
guidelines.
My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
Any other ideas? I suggest we collect ideas over the next few days,
check how well the measure against the above guidelines, and then next
week come up with consensus on which one of the candidates we should
use as the codename.
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/Jackrabbit%203%20Strategic%20Plan
[2] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-names.html
BR,
Jukka Zitting
AW: [jr3] Codename
Posted by KÖLL Claus <C....@TIROL.GV.AT>.
Hi,
Good work jukka and cool idea to have a codename and not only always [jr3]...
My first idea was "Jabba" :-)
Jabba comes from Star Wars, sounds for me goood in place of java and the best Jabba was a Hutt.
Hutts have a extremly long Life expectancy, like JR 3 with a good design :-)
greets
claus
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Justin Edelson <ju...@justinedelson.com>.
If that's in use, how about the name of a big tree? Sequoia is taken,
but maybe Cypress will work? I just saw a big one of those today...
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Alexander Klimetschek
<ak...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I recently heard "BigTree", coming from you Jukka, afaik.
>
> I like this a lot... but there is an open-source PHP cms [0] with that name. Probably a bummer.
>
> [0] http://bigtreecms.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> --
> Alexander Klimetschek
> Developer // Adobe (Day) // Berlin - Basel
>
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Alexander Klimetschek <ak...@adobe.com>.
I recently heard "BigTree", coming from you Jukka, afaik.
I like this a lot... but there is an open-source PHP cms [0] with that name. Probably a bummer.
[0] http://bigtreecms.com/
Cheers,
Alex
--
Alexander Klimetschek
Developer // Adobe (Day) // Berlin - Basel
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Christian Stocker <ch...@liip.ch>.
On 25.02.12 09:48, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
>> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>>
>> Any other ideas? I suggest we collect ideas over the next few days,
>> check how well the measure against the above guidelines, and then next
>> week come up with consensus on which one of the candidates we should
>> use as the codename.
>
> Jackalope
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope
http://jackalope.github.com/ ;)
chregu
>
> ....Roy
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>
> Any other ideas? I suggest we collect ideas over the next few days,
> check how well the measure against the above guidelines, and then next
> week come up with consensus on which one of the candidates we should
> use as the codename.
Jackalope
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope
....Roy
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I guess too many google results.
Yes, especially those on "oak software".
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexander Klimetschek
<ak...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> On 2/28/12 1:40 PM, "Felix Meschberger" <fm...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> I might have missed a thing, but where has oak gone ?
>
> +1 for Oak
OK, given the positive feedback on Oak, I put it back to the poll on
http://www.doodle.com/zpnpmcv69pfaw73f. Doodle allows you to edit your
response (or add a new one) if you already participated but would also
like to +1 Oak.
I think Oak should be fine as a development codename (that's why I
used it in the Labs), but it might be a bit troublesome to promote to
a full stable product name down the line.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Alexander Klimetschek <ak...@adobe.com>.
Am 28.02.2012 um 13:49 schrieb Thomas Mueller:
> I guess too many google results.
>
> On 2/28/12 1:40 PM, "Felix Meschberger" <fm...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> I might have missed a thing, but where has oak gone ?
+1 for Oak
Googling for just "oak" & simply counting the number of results does not make sense to me. Googling for "sling" also gives you 12 mio results, most not related to apache sling. And no reason the project could still become number one here (top in my results are "oakncy.com" a fashion store, the wikipedia page for Oak & okaland airport), just like httpd, tomcat, etc.
I don't find major software related things named "Oak" (except maybe "Read Oak Software" http://www.redoaksw.com/).
>> Am 28.02.2012 um 11:13 schrieb Jukka Zitting:
>>
>>> leaving the
>>> following alternatives:
>>>
>>> [ ] Arnabu
>>> [ ] Blackrabbit
>>> [ ] Carota
>>> [ ] Jonsai
>>> [ ] Leporid
>>> [ ] Tapeti
>>> [ ] Tupaia
These are all way too complicated - unspellable & unrecognizable. Blackrabbit is too close to Jackrabbit IMHO.
Also, -1 for Bonsai & derivatives, there should be no association with "small trees".
Cheers,
Alex
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com>.
Hi,
I guess too many google results.
Regards,
Thomas
On 2/28/12 1:40 PM, "Felix Meschberger" <fm...@adobe.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I might have missed a thing, but where has oak gone ?
>
>Reagards
>Felix
>
>Am 28.02.2012 um 11:13 schrieb Jukka Zitting:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> OK, I think we have quite a few reasonable alternatives here, each
>> with their own strengths and weaknesses. I dropped the candidates with
>> notable downsides (especially not being unique enough), leaving the
>> following alternatives:
>>
>> [ ] Arnabu
>> [ ] Blackrabbit
>> [ ] Carota
>> [ ] Jonsai
>> [ ] Leporid
>> [ ] Tapeti
>> [ ] Tupaia
>>
>> Let's have a quick poll on these at
>> http://www.doodle.com/zpnpmcv69pfaw73f. Please pick your favorites! If
>> a reasonable consensus emerges on one of the alternatives, then we'll
>> simply pick that one. Otherwise we'll have a followup vote on the two
>> most popular alternatives.
>>
>> Note that for now this is just a codename for the jr3 implementation
>> effort. Once we get close to production quality we still need to
>> decide whether to promote the codename for wider use, brand the
>> implementation as "Jackrabbit 3.0" like originally planned, or perhaps
>> come up with a completely new name.
>>
>> PS. If I missed a good alternative or one that wasn't brought up yet,
>> let me know so I can add it to the poll.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@adobe.com>.
Hi
I might have missed a thing, but where has oak gone ?
Reagards
Felix
Am 28.02.2012 um 11:13 schrieb Jukka Zitting:
> Hi,
>
> OK, I think we have quite a few reasonable alternatives here, each
> with their own strengths and weaknesses. I dropped the candidates with
> notable downsides (especially not being unique enough), leaving the
> following alternatives:
>
> [ ] Arnabu
> [ ] Blackrabbit
> [ ] Carota
> [ ] Jonsai
> [ ] Leporid
> [ ] Tapeti
> [ ] Tupaia
>
> Let's have a quick poll on these at
> http://www.doodle.com/zpnpmcv69pfaw73f. Please pick your favorites! If
> a reasonable consensus emerges on one of the alternatives, then we'll
> simply pick that one. Otherwise we'll have a followup vote on the two
> most popular alternatives.
>
> Note that for now this is just a codename for the jr3 implementation
> effort. Once we get close to production quality we still need to
> decide whether to promote the codename for wider use, brand the
> implementation as "Jackrabbit 3.0" like originally planned, or perhaps
> come up with a completely new name.
>
> PS. If I missed a good alternative or one that wasn't brought up yet,
> let me know so I can add it to the poll.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's have a quick poll on these at
> http://www.doodle.com/zpnpmcv69pfaw73f. Please pick your favorites! If
> a reasonable consensus emerges on one of the alternatives, then we'll
> simply pick that one. Otherwise we'll have a followup vote on the two
> most popular alternatives.
Blackrabbit is currently leading at 15 likes (71% of participants),
with Oak at 8 (38%) and Jonsai at 7 (33%) coming next. All other
alternatives are liked by less than 15% of participants so far, so
we'll drop those.
Looking deeper at the results I see that 6 out of 7 people who like
Jonsai also like Blackrabbit, so it's safe to drop also Jonsai out
since it seems that most who like it would also be happy with the more
popular Blackrabbit.
That leaves us with Blackrabbit and Oak. Since Oak was added a bit
later and not everyone who participated in the poll has yet indicated
whether they like it or not, I'm leaving the poll open for a bit
longer. Unless the support for Oak rises notably closer to that of
Blackrabbit, we'll just go with Blackrabbit. If it does, we'll have a
more formal vote over the weekend on the two candidates.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
OK, I think we have quite a few reasonable alternatives here, each
with their own strengths and weaknesses. I dropped the candidates with
notable downsides (especially not being unique enough), leaving the
following alternatives:
[ ] Arnabu
[ ] Blackrabbit
[ ] Carota
[ ] Jonsai
[ ] Leporid
[ ] Tapeti
[ ] Tupaia
Let's have a quick poll on these at
http://www.doodle.com/zpnpmcv69pfaw73f. Please pick your favorites! If
a reasonable consensus emerges on one of the alternatives, then we'll
simply pick that one. Otherwise we'll have a followup vote on the two
most popular alternatives.
Note that for now this is just a codename for the jr3 implementation
effort. Once we get close to production quality we still need to
decide whether to promote the codename for wider use, brand the
implementation as "Jackrabbit 3.0" like originally planned, or perhaps
come up with a completely new name.
PS. If I missed a good alternative or one that wasn't brought up yet,
let me know so I can add it to the poll.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Angela Schreiber <an...@adobe.com>.
hi
as far as i am concerned i would prefer to stick with the rabbits
(or any other codename) over exposing the implementation details
by referring to trees. specially if it gets into the direction of
bonsai... the idea of a dwarf repository that is artificially
limited by design, well... ;-)
> I suggest the name 'Leporidae'
i wouldn't find that hard to remember and basically like it.
however, the pronunciation of latin words tend to vary heavily
between different languages, which can make it pretty hard in
conversation.
so, i'd rather use
Leporid
or a phantasy-derivation (such as e.g. JSOP derived from Ysop).
or just another rabbit synonym/species
Sneeuwhaas
Arnab or better Arnabu to prevent confusion with sanskrit 'ocean'
Tapeti
...
regards
angela
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi...
I suggest the name 'Leporidae' which is explained in [1] and [2]. The
logic behind it is that it is related to the rabbit kingdom and also it is
related to a huge tree in this case the tree of Rabbits related species.
[1] -
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_part_of_the_animal_kingdom_does_a_rabbit_belong_to
[2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leporidae
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ard Schrijvers
<a....@onehippo.com>wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As mentioned in the proposed strategic plan [1], I'd like us to come
> > up with a codename other than just "Jackrabbit 3" or "jr3" for the
> > work to implement the new repository.
> >
> > The name should be short, easy to remember (and type) and unique
> > enough to be easily searchable (i.e. there shouldn't already be
> > millions of Google hits for the name) and to not conflict with
> > existing software products. It would be nice if the name had some
> > relation to trees, content or our existing "Jackrabbit" branch (my
> > wife would suggest we use "Bunny" :-). See also [2] for generic naming
> > guidelines.
> >
> > My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
> > Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>
> Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
>
> Regards Ard
>
> >
> > Any other ideas? I suggest we collect ideas over the next few days,
> > check how well the measure against the above guidelines, and then next
> > week come up with consensus on which one of the candidates we should
> > use as the codename.
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/Jackrabbit%203%20Strategic%20Plan
> > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-names.html
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
>
>
>
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Ard Schrijvers <a....@onehippo.com>.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>I'd like to have a big tree in my garden I
>>wouldn't google for bonsai :)
>
> Why does the project name has anything to do with 'big'? A jackrabbit is
> not big either; it's not even a tree! And it was a good name.
>
> Jonsai (or Jansai or similar) sound nice to me.
>
> Oak has many search results (58 million).
Good point and I agree. Although I still think Hippo is a good company
name, which holds pretty much the same number of hits as oak :)
Regards Ard
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com>.
Hi,
>I think Jackrabbit name is good because:
>1- When you hear it, you know right away how to spell it.
That might be correct for native English speakers, but not necessarily for
others.
>Jonsai/Jansai fails #1
How else could you spell them if you hear the words? Maybe it's also a
"native language" problem...
Regards,
Thomas
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Mete Atamel <ma...@adobe.com>.
I think Jackrabbit name is good because:
1- When you hear it, you know right away how to spell it.
2- There is not much else named Jackrabbit or similar.
IMO, Jonsai/Jansai fails #1 and Oak fails #2. I don't have a good
alternate name in mind though.
-Mete
On 2/27/12 12:01 PM, "Thomas Mueller" <mu...@adobe.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>>I'd like to have a big tree in my garden I
>>wouldn't google for bonsai :)
>
>Why does the project name has anything to do with 'big'? A jackrabbit is
>not big either; it's not even a tree! And it was a good name.
>
>Jonsai (or Jansai or similar) sound nice to me.
>
>Oak has many search results (58 million).
>
>Regards,
>Thomas
>
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com>.
Hi,
>I'd like to have a big tree in my garden I
>wouldn't google for bonsai :)
Why does the project name has anything to do with 'big'? A jackrabbit is
not big either; it's not even a tree! And it was a good name.
Jonsai (or Jansai or similar) sound nice to me.
Oak has many search results (58 million).
Regards,
Thomas
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Ard Schrijvers <a....@onehippo.com>.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
>
> When revering to source code, I like small. A Jackrabbit is relatively
> small, and I don't think there was a problem with that.
Yes, but bonsai typically triggers the concept of a small tree to me,
and the tree is about the content, not about the code
>
>
> Bonsai: "Bon" means tray, and "sai" means planting/plantings. We do store
> 'trees', so it matches :-)
I agree, but still, if I'd like to have a big tree in my garden I
wouldn't google for bonsai :)
Regards Ard
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ard...
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Ard Schrijvers
<a....@onehippo.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ard Schrijvers
> > <a....@onehippo.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting <
> jukka.zitting@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
> >>> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
> >>
> >> Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
> >
> > Right, that's why I was trying to come up with something starting from
> > the "big tree" idea. The mentioned "BigTree" is IMHO too clunky and
> > way too close to the already existing "Bigtop" project [1]. The idea
> > Justin was leading with Sequioa (Redwood), Cypress or something
> > similar seems promising, but most of such names are already used in
> > the software domain. A slightly mangled name like in "Jonsai" might
> > work here.
> >
> > One possible alternative is the "Oak" name I've been using in a
> > somewhat related effort within Apache Labs [2]. That effort never went
>
> I personally like oak a lot. In general I am, but that is of course
> just taste, not too charmed with:
>
> 1) portmanteau's like jonsai
> 2) with very complex to write and remember names like Leporidae (sry Nour)
>
No worries :P
>
> Oak is catchy, I like oaks, everybody knows what they are, easy to
> remember and pronounce, and, for what it's worth, the JIRA key can be
> the same as the project name :)
>
Yeah but Oak is very Java related which is good from one side, but from
the other side it has no relation with Rabbits :D.
On a second thought, why we are referring to the Rabbit itself why not
something very related to it, what about:
Carota or Carrot Tree [1]
[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot
>
> +1 for oak
>
> Regards Ard
>
> > too far, so if people like it we could reuse the name for jr3. Quoting
> > from my Labs mail about the name: "PS. The project name is based on a
> > subplot about a mighty oak-tree [3] in the Finnish national epic
> > Kalevala. It's also a reference to the large-scale tree hierarchy
> > inherent in the planned Oak architecture. I know the name conflicts
> > with the old name of Java and a few other projects out there, but at
> > least for the duration of the lab I think the name is unique enough."
> >
> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/bigtop/
> > [2] http://markmail.org/message/5arnqmom5tel7vtx
> > [3] http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/kvrune02.htm
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Ard Schrijvers <a....@onehippo.com>.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Michael Dürig <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> What about joak? Well, just a joke ;-)
haha. If it turns out to be a complete fiasco we can easily re-brand
oak to joak, good point!
:)
>
> Michael
>
>
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Michael Dürig <md...@apache.org>.
What about joak? Well, just a joke ;-)
Michael
On 27.2.12 10:44, Ard Schrijvers wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Jukka Zitting<ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ard Schrijvers
>> <a....@onehippo.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting<ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
>>>> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>>>
>>> Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
>>
>> Right, that's why I was trying to come up with something starting from
>> the "big tree" idea. The mentioned "BigTree" is IMHO too clunky and
>> way too close to the already existing "Bigtop" project [1]. The idea
>> Justin was leading with Sequioa (Redwood), Cypress or something
>> similar seems promising, but most of such names are already used in
>> the software domain. A slightly mangled name like in "Jonsai" might
>> work here.
>>
>> One possible alternative is the "Oak" name I've been using in a
>> somewhat related effort within Apache Labs [2]. That effort never went
>
> I personally like oak a lot. In general I am, but that is of course
> just taste, not too charmed with:
>
> 1) portmanteau's like jonsai
> 2) with very complex to write and remember names like Leporidae (sry Nour)
>
> Oak is catchy, I like oaks, everybody knows what they are, easy to
> remember and pronounce, and, for what it's worth, the JIRA key can be
> the same as the project name :)
>
> +1 for oak
>
> Regards Ard
>
>> too far, so if people like it we could reuse the name for jr3. Quoting
>> from my Labs mail about the name: "PS. The project name is based on a
>> subplot about a mighty oak-tree [3] in the Finnish national epic
>> Kalevala. It's also a reference to the large-scale tree hierarchy
>> inherent in the planned Oak architecture. I know the name conflicts
>> with the old name of Java and a few other projects out there, but at
>> least for the duration of the lab I think the name is unique enough."
>>
>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/bigtop/
>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/5arnqmom5tel7vtx
>> [3] http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/kvrune02.htm
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>
>
>
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Ard Schrijvers <a....@onehippo.com>.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ard Schrijvers
> <a....@onehippo.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
>>> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>>
>> Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
>
> Right, that's why I was trying to come up with something starting from
> the "big tree" idea. The mentioned "BigTree" is IMHO too clunky and
> way too close to the already existing "Bigtop" project [1]. The idea
> Justin was leading with Sequioa (Redwood), Cypress or something
> similar seems promising, but most of such names are already used in
> the software domain. A slightly mangled name like in "Jonsai" might
> work here.
>
> One possible alternative is the "Oak" name I've been using in a
> somewhat related effort within Apache Labs [2]. That effort never went
I personally like oak a lot. In general I am, but that is of course
just taste, not too charmed with:
1) portmanteau's like jonsai
2) with very complex to write and remember names like Leporidae (sry Nour)
Oak is catchy, I like oaks, everybody knows what they are, easy to
remember and pronounce, and, for what it's worth, the JIRA key can be
the same as the project name :)
+1 for oak
Regards Ard
> too far, so if people like it we could reuse the name for jr3. Quoting
> from my Labs mail about the name: "PS. The project name is based on a
> subplot about a mighty oak-tree [3] in the Finnish national epic
> Kalevala. It's also a reference to the large-scale tree hierarchy
> inherent in the planned Oak architecture. I know the name conflicts
> with the old name of Java and a few other projects out there, but at
> least for the duration of the lab I think the name is unique enough."
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/bigtop/
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/5arnqmom5tel7vtx
> [3] http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/kvrune02.htm
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ard Schrijvers
<a....@onehippo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
>> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>
> Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
Right, that's why I was trying to come up with something starting from
the "big tree" idea. The mentioned "BigTree" is IMHO too clunky and
way too close to the already existing "Bigtop" project [1]. The idea
Justin was leading with Sequioa (Redwood), Cypress or something
similar seems promising, but most of such names are already used in
the software domain. A slightly mangled name like in "Jonsai" might
work here.
One possible alternative is the "Oak" name I've been using in a
somewhat related effort within Apache Labs [2]. That effort never went
too far, so if people like it we could reuse the name for jr3. Quoting
from my Labs mail about the name: "PS. The project name is based on a
subplot about a mighty oak-tree [3] in the Finnish national epic
Kalevala. It's also a reference to the large-scale tree hierarchy
inherent in the planned Oak architecture. I know the name conflicts
with the old name of Java and a few other projects out there, but at
least for the duration of the lab I think the name is unique enough."
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/bigtop/
[2] http://markmail.org/message/5arnqmom5tel7vtx
[3] http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/kvrune02.htm
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com>.
Hi,
>Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
When revering to source code, I like small. A Jackrabbit is relatively
small, and I don't think there was a problem with that.
Bonsai: "Bon" means tray, and "sai" means planting/plantings. We do store
'trees', so it matches :-)
Regards,
Thomas
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Ard Schrijvers <a....@onehippo.com>.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As mentioned in the proposed strategic plan [1], I'd like us to come
> up with a codename other than just "Jackrabbit 3" or "jr3" for the
> work to implement the new repository.
>
> The name should be short, easy to remember (and type) and unique
> enough to be easily searchable (i.e. there shouldn't already be
> millions of Google hits for the name) and to not conflict with
> existing software products. It would be nice if the name had some
> relation to trees, content or our existing "Jackrabbit" branch (my
> wife would suggest we use "Bunny" :-). See also [2] for generic naming
> guidelines.
>
> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
Bonsai might give a perception of small, and not 'BigTree' kind at all
Regards Ard
>
> Any other ideas? I suggest we collect ideas over the next few days,
> check how well the measure against the above guidelines, and then next
> week come up with consensus on which one of the candidates we should
> use as the codename.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/Jackrabbit%203%20Strategic%20Plan
> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-names.html
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
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Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Thomas Mueller <mu...@adobe.com>.
Hi,
>>Blackrabbit?
>
>Ooh, I like that! Instant heavy metal credibility. ;-)
And we don't even need to change the logo :-)
Regards,
Thomas
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Torgeir Veimo <to...@netenviron.com> wrote:
> Blackrabbit?
Ooh, I like that! Instant heavy metal credibility. ;-)
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Torgeir Veimo <to...@netenviron.com>.
On 27 February 2012 23:15, Angela Schreiber <an...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> or any other codename
>
> such as for example leaving the 'leporidae' for another animal
> family...
Blackrabbit?
--
-Tor (non-dev-member)
Re: [jr3] Codename
Posted by Angela Schreiber <an...@adobe.com>.
> or any other codename
such as for example leaving the 'leporidae' for another animal
family... there exist for example 'treeshrews' [1].
-> Tupaia
we had the tree (even the tropical forest!), the animal with
a fur ;) and it is easy to write and pronounce, isn't it?
angela
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treeshrew
On 2/24/12 11:36 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As mentioned in the proposed strategic plan [1], I'd like us to come
> up with a codename other than just "Jackrabbit 3" or "jr3" for the
> work to implement the new repository.
>
> The name should be short, easy to remember (and type) and unique
> enough to be easily searchable (i.e. there shouldn't already be
> millions of Google hits for the name) and to not conflict with
> existing software products. It would be nice if the name had some
> relation to trees, content or our existing "Jackrabbit" branch (my
> wife would suggest we use "Bunny" :-). See also [2] for generic naming
> guidelines.
>
> My personal favorite so far is "Jonsai" (as in Java + Bonsai) that
> Michael D. suggested in a lunch conversation last week.
>
> Any other ideas? I suggest we collect ideas over the next few days,
> check how well the measure against the above guidelines, and then next
> week come up with consensus on which one of the candidates we should
> use as the codename.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/Jackrabbit%203%20Strategic%20Plan
> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-names.html
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting