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Deployment management using console and ANT

Hi ...

I'm thinking of some deployment management using
console and Apache ANT. This feature enables remote
deployment possible and verified for EJB deployment
files.

The dpeloyment management also should have sort of
version control and ability to rollback any errors.
Therefore reduce the chances of partial deployment. 

Cheers.
B. Adji Maharyatno
Singapore


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Re: Deployment management using console and ANT

Posted by Jonathan Duty <jd...@jonandkerry.com>.
Hi Adji,
I'm from a group working on a verification engine that would check 
archives for validity and also be something that the deployment engine 
could be built on top of.  This validation engine would not only be used 
by the deploymentManager but could also be used by the DeployTool or an 
IDE to allow developers to "check" their app archives before they send 
it off to the J2EE server.

I checked out commons modeler.  Attached is a picture of what we were 
envisioning and how we thought it would all work together.  We are on 
the J2EE Deployment Manager thread.  Let us know what you think.


~Jonathan

Labeeb Syed wrote:

>Adji, I believe so, it seems to be the current model
>we are trying to follow. Check the discussion in
>regards to the Kernel. Also there are some additional
>proposal made in terms of checking type mappings of EB
>and databases with constraints checks.
>
>
>--- Technology Evangelist <ob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi James ..
>>
>>Do we plan to integrate "Modeler" project as the
>>deployment manager which will interact with MBeans?
>>
>>Have experienced using OC4J, SunONE, WebLogic, and
>>WebSphere. Compared to Borland ES, the deployment
>>cycle of Borland seems simpler and cleaner compared
>>to
>>the rest of other appserver. 
>>
>>Any possibilities that during deployment process it
>>internally checks version, validity of descriptors
>>and
>>check any dependencies?
>>
>>Cheers.
>>B. Adji Maharyatno
>>Singapore
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
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Re: Deployment management using console and ANT

Posted by Labeeb Syed <an...@yahoo.com>.
Adji, I believe so, it seems to be the current model
we are trying to follow. Check the discussion in
regards to the Kernel. Also there are some additional
proposal made in terms of checking type mappings of EB
and databases with constraints checks.


--- Technology Evangelist <ob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi James ..
> 
> Do we plan to integrate "Modeler" project as the
> deployment manager which will interact with MBeans?
> 
> Have experienced using OC4J, SunONE, WebLogic, and
> WebSphere. Compared to Borland ES, the deployment
> cycle of Borland seems simpler and cleaner compared
> to
> the rest of other appserver. 
> 
> Any possibilities that during deployment process it
> internally checks version, validity of descriptors
> and
> check any dependencies?
> 
> Cheers.
> B. Adji Maharyatno
> Singapore
> 
> 

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Re: Deployment management using console and ANT

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
FYI, Twiddle is not only for command-line access to mbeans, but really 
is a shell for all command line fluff which we might want to have... 
like say a deployer command, to easily deploy/undeploy from the command 
line... and so on.

--jason


On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, at 07:19  PM, James Strachan wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 05:20  pm, Technology Evangelist wrote:
>
>> Hi James ..
>>
>> Do we plan to integrate "Modeler" project as the
>> deployment manager which will interact with MBeans?
>
> AFAIK there's no plan yet.
>
> I know Jason's working on a little command line tool called Twiddle to 
> help work with MBeans in a command shell. (its in a separate module in 
> CVS if you wanna take a look).
>
>
>> Have experienced using OC4J, SunONE, WebLogic, and
>> WebSphere. Compared to Borland ES, the deployment
>> cycle of Borland seems simpler and cleaner compared to
>> the rest of other appserver.
>>
>> Any possibilities that during deployment process it
>> internally checks version, validity of descriptors and
>> check any dependencies?
>
> Sure.
>
> James
> -------
> http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
>


Re: Deployment management using console and ANT

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 05:20  pm, Technology Evangelist wrote:

> Hi James ..
>
> Do we plan to integrate "Modeler" project as the
> deployment manager which will interact with MBeans?

AFAIK there's no plan yet.

I know Jason's working on a little command line tool called Twiddle to 
help work with MBeans in a command shell. (its in a separate module in 
CVS if you wanna take a look).


> Have experienced using OC4J, SunONE, WebLogic, and
> WebSphere. Compared to Borland ES, the deployment
> cycle of Borland seems simpler and cleaner compared to
> the rest of other appserver.
>
> Any possibilities that during deployment process it
> internally checks version, validity of descriptors and
> check any dependencies?

Sure.

James
-------
http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/


Re: Deployment management using console and ANT

Posted by Technology Evangelist <ob...@yahoo.com>.
Hi James ..

Do we plan to integrate "Modeler" project as the
deployment manager which will interact with MBeans?

Have experienced using OC4J, SunONE, WebLogic, and
WebSphere. Compared to Borland ES, the deployment
cycle of Borland seems simpler and cleaner compared to
the rest of other appserver. 

Any possibilities that during deployment process it
internally checks version, validity of descriptors and
check any dependencies?

Cheers.
B. Adji Maharyatno
Singapore


--- James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> FWIW the Jakarta Commons project has a project
> called Modeler which 
> includes a bunch of Ant tasks for deploying MBeans
> and such like.
> 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/modeler.html
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 05:03  pm,
> Technology Evangelist wrote:
> 
> > Hi ...
> >
> > I'm thinking of some deployment management using
> > console and Apache ANT. This feature enables
> remote
> > deployment possible and verified for EJB
> deployment
> > files.
> >
> > The dpeloyment management also should have sort of
> > version control and ability to rollback any
> errors.
> > Therefore reduce the chances of partial
> deployment.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > B. Adji Maharyatno
> > Singapore
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site
> design software
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> >
> >
> 
> James
> -------
> http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
> 


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Re: Deployment management using console and ANT

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
FWIW the Jakarta Commons project has a project called Modeler which 
includes a bunch of Ant tasks for deploying MBeans and such like.

http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/modeler.html


On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 05:03  pm, Technology Evangelist wrote:

> Hi ...
>
> I'm thinking of some deployment management using
> console and Apache ANT. This feature enables remote
> deployment possible and verified for EJB deployment
> files.
>
> The dpeloyment management also should have sort of
> version control and ability to rollback any errors.
> Therefore reduce the chances of partial deployment.
>
> Cheers.
> B. Adji Maharyatno
> Singapore
>
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
> http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
>
>

James
-------
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