Tomahawk 1.1.5 vs 1.1.4 [Was: MyFaces-1377 min fix versions? / panelNavigation2 breakage]

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

We no longer release Core and Tomahawk at the same svn revision level.
    In theory, there are no dependencies between them so it shouldn't
matter.  In practice, we keep finding little things we need to tweak
to make this the case.

It's already a monstrous task to try to release a product (be it Core
or Tomahawk) without a critical flaw or regression.    It'd be an
order of magnitude harder if we had to do so for both at the same time
(and our past releases for MyFaces Core+Tomahawk show that we never
hit the mark.

There's no real reason why we have to release a new version of
Tomahawk just because we released Core, even though that's currently
our tradition (or vise-versa).

At some point, we hope to stop releasing Core 1.1 -- no more bugs to
fix :-) -- but we will continue to release new versions of Tomahawk.


On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> Isn't that just taking 1.1.5 and renaming it 1.1.4? Won't that just add
> to the confusion? Clearly, it has confused me anyway! ;)
>
> Wendy Smoak wrote:
> > On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> >> According to the release plan [1], the 1.1.4 Tomahawk branch will likely
> >> be abandoned in favor of 1.1.5...
> >
> > We're not skipping 1.1.4.  The existing (very old) 1.1.4 branch will
> > be deleted, and we'll copy the 1.1.5-SNAPSHOT trunk to
> > tomahawk/branches/1_1_4.

Re: Tomahawk 1.1.5 vs 1.1.4 [Was: MyFaces-1377 min fix versions? / panelNavigation2 breakage]

[Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>]

On 9/20/06, Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. I vote let's just call it 1.1.5.

Let's take this back to dev@, most of the users don't care what we call it. :)

-- 
Wendy

Re: Tomahawk 1.1.5 vs 1.1.4 [Was: MyFaces-1377 min fix versions? / panelNavigation2 breakage]

[Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com>]

My concern is that the current maven build is labelled 1.1.5, and that
releasing it as 1.1.4 will cause more confusion for our users. I'm not sure
of the history of *why* the current build is 1.1.5 (there was an animated
discussion about branching, tagging, merging up, branching down, etc, which
at this point due to the delays I'm not sure matters anymore).

Either way it doesn't make much difference. I just thought it would be
simpler. Am I off base ?

On 9/20/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure I understand why we'd want to skip 1.1.4 for Tomahawk.  Last
> version was 1.1.3.  Next version would be 1.1.4.   It's a separate
> product so why skip a version?
>
> On 9/20/06, Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree. I vote let's just call it 1.1.5.
> >
> >
> > On 9/20/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We no longer release Core and Tomahawk at the same svn revision level.
> > >     In theory, there are no dependencies between them so it shouldn't
> > > matter.  In practice, we keep finding little things we need to tweak
> > > to make this the case.
> > >
> > > It's already a monstrous task to try to release a product (be it Core
> > > or Tomahawk) without a critical flaw or regression.    It'd be an
> > > order of magnitude harder if we had to do so for both at the same time
> > > (and our past releases for MyFaces Core+Tomahawk show that we never
> > > hit the mark.
> > >
> > > There's no real reason why we have to release a new version of
> > > Tomahawk just because we released Core, even though that's currently
> > > our tradition (or vise-versa).
> > >
> > > At some point, we hope to stop releasing Core 1.1 -- no more bugs to
> > > fix :-) -- but we will continue to release new versions of Tomahawk.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> > > > Isn't that just taking 1.1.5 and renaming it 1.1.4? Won't that just
> add
> > > > to the confusion? Clearly, it has confused me anyway! ;)
> > > >
> > > > Wendy Smoak wrote:
> > > > > On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> > > > >> According to the release plan [1], the 1.1.4 Tomahawk branch will
> > likely
> > > > >> be abandoned in favor of 1.1.5...
> > > > >
> > > > > We're not skipping 1.1.4.  The existing (very old) 1.1.4 branch
> will
> > > > > be deleted, and we'll copy the 1.1.5-SNAPSHOT trunk to
> > > > > tomahawk/branches/1_1_4.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Grant Smith
> >
>



-- 
Grant Smith

Re: Tomahawk 1.1.5 vs 1.1.4 [Was: MyFaces-1377 min fix versions? / panelNavigation2 breakage]

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

Not sure I understand why we'd want to skip 1.1.4 for Tomahawk.  Last
version was 1.1.3.  Next version would be 1.1.4.   It's a separate
product so why skip a version?

On 9/20/06, Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree. I vote let's just call it 1.1.5.
>
>
> On 9/20/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We no longer release Core and Tomahawk at the same svn revision level.
> >     In theory, there are no dependencies between them so it shouldn't
> > matter.  In practice, we keep finding little things we need to tweak
> > to make this the case.
> >
> > It's already a monstrous task to try to release a product (be it Core
> > or Tomahawk) without a critical flaw or regression.    It'd be an
> > order of magnitude harder if we had to do so for both at the same time
> > (and our past releases for MyFaces Core+Tomahawk show that we never
> > hit the mark.
> >
> > There's no real reason why we have to release a new version of
> > Tomahawk just because we released Core, even though that's currently
> > our tradition (or vise-versa).
> >
> > At some point, we hope to stop releasing Core 1.1 -- no more bugs to
> > fix :-) -- but we will continue to release new versions of Tomahawk.
> >
> >
> > On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> > > Isn't that just taking 1.1.5 and renaming it 1.1.4? Won't that just add
> > > to the confusion? Clearly, it has confused me anyway! ;)
> > >
> > > Wendy Smoak wrote:
> > > > On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> > > >> According to the release plan [1], the 1.1.4 Tomahawk branch will
> likely
> > > >> be abandoned in favor of 1.1.5...
> > > >
> > > > We're not skipping 1.1.4.  The existing (very old) 1.1.4 branch will
> > > > be deleted, and we'll copy the 1.1.5-SNAPSHOT trunk to
> > > > tomahawk/branches/1_1_4.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grant Smith
>

Re: Tomahawk 1.1.5 vs 1.1.4 [Was: MyFaces-1377 min fix versions? / panelNavigation2 breakage]

[Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com>]

I agree. I vote let's just call it 1.1.5.

On 9/20/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We no longer release Core and Tomahawk at the same svn revision level.
>     In theory, there are no dependencies between them so it shouldn't
> matter.  In practice, we keep finding little things we need to tweak
> to make this the case.
>
> It's already a monstrous task to try to release a product (be it Core
> or Tomahawk) without a critical flaw or regression.    It'd be an
> order of magnitude harder if we had to do so for both at the same time
> (and our past releases for MyFaces Core+Tomahawk show that we never
> hit the mark.
>
> There's no real reason why we have to release a new version of
> Tomahawk just because we released Core, even though that's currently
> our tradition (or vise-versa).
>
> At some point, we hope to stop releasing Core 1.1 -- no more bugs to
> fix :-) -- but we will continue to release new versions of Tomahawk.
>
>
> On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> > Isn't that just taking 1.1.5 and renaming it 1.1.4? Won't that just add
> > to the confusion? Clearly, it has confused me anyway! ;)
> >
> > Wendy Smoak wrote:
> > > On 9/20/06, Jeff Bischoff <jb...@klkurz.com> wrote:
> > >> According to the release plan [1], the 1.1.4 Tomahawk branch will
> likely
> > >> be abandoned in favor of 1.1.5...
> > >
> > > We're not skipping 1.1.4.  The existing (very old) 1.1.4 branch will
> > > be deleted, and we'll copy the 1.1.5-SNAPSHOT trunk to
> > > tomahawk/branches/1_1_4.
>



-- 
Grant Smith