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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by "donaldupre ." <do...@gmail.com> on 2015/10/10 12:36:17 UTC
Apache replacement
Hi
What does it take to buy back OpenOffice from Apache?
I'm sure there are commercial entities that will be happy to develop it.
Apache isn't doing a great job...
Best regards,
Don
PS I don't want a merge with LibreOffice!
Re: Apache replacement
Posted by "donaldupre ." <do...@gmail.com>.
There is the brand name "OpenOffice" to be bought.
The exact problems with Apache:
1. Lack of releases, should be 3-4 per year as minimum.
2. The tired and boring look and feel of the homepage, blog, facebook,
twitter.
3. Lack of innovation, the sidebar is not an example for innovation.
4. The lost contact with Linux distributions. all distributions ship
LibreOffice as default.
5. The limited documentation and user support in all forms.
6. The wrong emphasis on M$ formats compatibility, the reason OpenOffice
was invented was to rid the world from proprietary formats. If OpenOffice
fully supports these, what reason is there for anyone to use the open file
format?
Regards,
Don
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> OpenOffice is under a very liberal license: anyone can fork it and continue
> developing it independently (eg. NeoOffice), there's nothing to be bought.
>
> What are your exact problems with the job Apache is doing?
>
> Regards
> Damjan
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, donaldupre . <do...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > What does it take to buy back OpenOffice from Apache?
> > I'm sure there are commercial entities that will be happy to develop it.
> > Apache isn't doing a great job...
> > Best regards,
> > Don
> > PS I don't want a merge with LibreOffice!
> >
>
Re: Apache replacement
Posted by Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>.
Hi
OpenOffice is under a very liberal license: anyone can fork it and continue
developing it independently (eg. NeoOffice), there's nothing to be bought.
What are your exact problems with the job Apache is doing?
Regards
Damjan
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, donaldupre . <do...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
> What does it take to buy back OpenOffice from Apache?
> I'm sure there are commercial entities that will be happy to develop it.
> Apache isn't doing a great job...
> Best regards,
> Don
> PS I don't want a merge with LibreOffice!
>
Re: Apache replacement
Posted by toki <to...@gmail.com>.
On 10/10/15 13:48, donaldupre wrote:
>The decision making will stay with Apache.
There is nothing preventing an organization from collecting the source
code Apache releases, modifying it, and commercially distributing the
resulting program. As such, Apache's decision making becomes totally
irrelevant.
See for, example, EuroOffice.
jonathon
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Re: Apache replacement
Posted by "donaldupre ." <do...@gmail.com>.
Please allow me to clarify. According to your suggestion, the contributors
will be managed by Apache. The decision making will stay with Apache. But
apache proved to fail in those aspects...
About creating a derivative product, after reading so many comments and
opinions online suggesting a merge of OO and LO, introducing a third player
seems unreasonable.
I'm not affiliated with such a company and just raised an innocent question.
Regards,
Don
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
wrote:
> donaldupre . wrote:
>
>> What does it take to buy back OpenOffice from Apache?
>> I'm sure there are commercial entities that will be happy to develop it.
>>
>
> Those entities can ask their employees to contribute to OpenOffice, and
> help shape the project with their contributions. This addresses all items
> in your list (then some of them are debatable, but I'm not going to discuss
> them in detail).
>
> The license allows companies to create derivative products and choose
> distribution terms for those, as Damjan noted. The trademark policy
> regulates how a company can use the "OpenOffice" trademark in derivatives.
> All information you need is available on, or from, the
> http://openoffice.apache.org/ website.
>
> I'll just note that none of the actions you list is incompatible with
> Apache: the company contributes their employees' time to the project and
> profits by selling support, or additional services, or customized versions.
> This is very common and successful in other Apache projects. If you have
> contacts with interested companies, just ask them to come to this list and
> start contributing!
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Apache replacement
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
donaldupre . wrote:
> What does it take to buy back OpenOffice from Apache?
> I'm sure there are commercial entities that will be happy to develop it.
Those entities can ask their employees to contribute to OpenOffice, and
help shape the project with their contributions. This addresses all
items in your list (then some of them are debatable, but I'm not going
to discuss them in detail).
The license allows companies to create derivative products and choose
distribution terms for those, as Damjan noted. The trademark policy
regulates how a company can use the "OpenOffice" trademark in
derivatives. All information you need is available on, or from, the
http://openoffice.apache.org/ website.
I'll just note that none of the actions you list is incompatible with
Apache: the company contributes their employees' time to the project and
profits by selling support, or additional services, or customized
versions. This is very common and successful in other Apache projects.
If you have contacts with interested companies, just ask them to come to
this list and start contributing!
Regards,
Andrea.
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