Update from CHAOSS Meetings 11-12 September 2018

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi All

I attended a couple of CHAOSS meetings this week and mentioned that I would send a brief update to this list. The main ones I picked up were:

- CHAOSSCon Europe is happening on Friday 1st February 2019 in Brussels (Note that it is the day before FOSDEM!). They are currently looking for a location.

- Metrics in Practice: They are looking for some more examples of how community metrics are used in practice (I think we will be able to provide some feedback here especially with the feedback we have coming in from the pilot projects)

- Re-organisation and re-naming of of the Growth, Maturity and Decline (GMD) Github repo: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-gmd (Changes have been suggested and this is currently out for feedback before updating)

- The GMD workgroup would like to focus on Use Cases related to the current metrics that have been defined (I think we will be able to provide some feedback here based on what has been implemented in Kibble as well as information from the pilot projects)

- Sample implementation of metrics: They are using Jupyter notebooks as a way to show examples of the GMD metrics have been implemented. (Can we setup a notebook for some Kibble data and logic?)

Anyone is welcome to join the CHAOSS meetings and the next meetings are as follows:
- The next weekly meeting is Tuesday 18th September 2018
- The next GMD Workgroup meeting is 26th September 2018

Thanks
Sharan

Re: Update from CHAOSS Meetings 11-12 September 2018

[Sharan <sh...@gmail.com>]

Hi Daniel

I think the current notebooks that CHAOSS have are based on data 
extracts using Grimoirelab's Perceval

https://github.com/chaoss/wg-gmd/tree/master/examples

OK - it sounds like adding a Jupyter notebook for Kibble doesn't 
actually make sense, and that simply installing Kibble will give you 
everything you need. Let me see if I can find out what the objective is 
supposed to be here.

Thanks
Sharan


On 14.9.2018 12:53, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 09/14/2018 12:37 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
>> - Sample implementation of metrics: They are using Jupyter notebooks 
>> as a way to show examples of the GMD metrics have been implemented. 
>> (Can we setup a notebook for some Kibble data and logic?)
>>
>
> I don't know that we *need* this part. Jupyter, as I understand it, is 
> about aggregating, formulating and graphing data-sets - kibble already 
> does this in the UI via python3 and C3/D3 (P3C3D3!), so I don't know 
> what we would need another visualization method for right now...
>
> We do exports as data tables, PNG images and SVG files out of the box.
> What would Jupyter add to this?
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.

Re: Update from CHAOSS Meetings 11-12 September 2018

[Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>]

On 09/14/2018 12:37 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> - Sample implementation of metrics: They are using Jupyter notebooks as a way to show examples of the GMD metrics have been implemented. (Can we setup a notebook for some Kibble data and logic?)
> 

I don't know that we *need* this part. Jupyter, as I understand it, is 
about aggregating, formulating and graphing data-sets - kibble already 
does this in the UI via python3 and C3/D3 (P3C3D3!), so I don't know 
what we would need another visualization method for right now...

We do exports as data tables, PNG images and SVG files out of the box.
What would Jupyter add to this?

With regards,
Daniel.

Re: Update from CHAOSS Meetings 11-12 September 2018

[Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>]

On 09/14/2018 12:37 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I attended a couple of CHAOSS meetings this week and mentioned that I would send a brief update to this list. The main ones I picked up were:
> 
> - CHAOSSCon Europe is happening on Friday 1st February 2019 in Brussels (Note that it is the day before FOSDEM!). They are currently looking for a location.
> 
> - Metrics in Practice: They are looking for some more examples of how community metrics are used in practice (I think we will be able to provide some feedback here especially with the feedback we have coming in from the pilot projects)
> 
> - Re-organisation and re-naming of of the Growth, Maturity and Decline (GMD) Github repo: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-gmd (Changes have been suggested and this is currently out for feedback before updating)
> 
> - The GMD workgroup would like to focus on Use Cases related to the current metrics that have been defined (I think we will be able to provide some feedback here based on what has been implemented in Kibble as well as information from the pilot projects)
> 
> - Sample implementation of metrics: They are using Jupyter notebooks as a way to show examples of the GMD metrics have been implemented. (Can we setup a notebook for some Kibble data and logic?)
> 
> Anyone is welcome to join the CHAOSS meetings and the next meetings are as follows:
> - The next weekly meeting is Tuesday 18th September 2018
> - The next GMD Workgroup meeting is 26th September 2018
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 

The GMD stuff makes me think of our community retention charts, like 
this one; 
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/engagement.html?page=retention&subfilter=httpd 
where you can clearly see growth, maturity and eventual (slow, on-going) 
decline of httpd as other web servers become popular. This isn't to say 
httpd is dying, but that other projects are now having a bite of the web 
server cake as well. We _could_ grab some attic'ed projects and look at 
the retention charts for them, it is usually very visible there when a 
project has peaked.

With regards,
Daniel.