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Posted to dev@velocity.apache.org by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de> on 2001/06/12 19:52:19 UTC
RE: I am having the feeling that VelocyMacros are the shity bitof Velocity
LOL
I have to admit it was a bit like you say (frustration overdose, I guess).
Still, the macros are shity at the moment. I can't believe that no one
else has problems with them.
The stranger issue was changing a template with a macro while the web
server was running and then having some changes showing up, but the
changes inside the macros not being visible at all. Velocity seems to
cache the macros and not being aware when their source was changed. When
developing macros that are private to a page, this is quite inconvenient.
For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Stevens [mailto:jon@latchkey.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:10 PM
>
>
> Thanks for taking your pain out on this list. We appreciate it. :-)
>
> -jon
>
> --
> "Open source is not available to commercial companies."
> -Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft
> <http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html>
>
RE: VelocyMacros issues (new and improved thread name)
Posted by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmj@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [mailto:gmj@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net]On
> Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr.
>
> Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> >
> > LOL
> > I have to admit it was a bit like you say (frustration
> overdose, I guess).
>
> So speak up earlier.
Explained in prev. posting.
> > Still, the macros are shity at the moment. I can't believe that no one
> > else has problems with them.
>
> Maybe they aren't 'shitty'. I and clients use them all the time, in big
> systems, that demand performance, and they work like a charm. Anakia
> depends upon them. Etc, etc, etc.
Yes, as mentioned in the prev. posting it looks like I use them in a
different way and maybe there is even an interpretation issue.
> > The stranger issue was changing a template with a macro while the web
> > server was running and then having some changes showing up, but the
> > changes inside the macros not being visible at all. Velocity seems to
> > cache the macros and not being aware when their source was changed. When
> > developing macros that are private to a page, this is quite
> inconvenient.
>
> Try reading the manual about the various switches. Things are pretty
> flexible.
I will do that. But the question about what macros should be global remains.
> > For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
>
> http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/
I know, I know. I used it.
Did you notice the "For a moment" bit?
Velocity is the template engine that comes closer to what I need. I am
better helping on fixing what it still misses.
Have fun,
Paulo
Re: I am having the feeling that VelocyMacros are the shity
bitofVelocity
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>
> LOL
> I have to admit it was a bit like you say (frustration overdose, I guess).
So speak up earlier.
> Still, the macros are shity at the moment. I can't believe that no one
> else has problems with them.
Maybe they aren't 'shitty'. I and clients use them all the time, in big
systems, that demand performance, and they work like a charm. Anakia
depends upon them. Etc, etc, etc.
> The stranger issue was changing a template with a macro while the web
> server was running and then having some changes showing up, but the
> changes inside the macros not being visible at all. Velocity seems to
> cache the macros and not being aware when their source was changed. When
> developing macros that are private to a page, this is quite inconvenient.
Try reading the manual about the various switches. Things are pretty
flexible.
> For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
>
http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/
> Have fun,
> Paulo Gaspar
Always do.
geir
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:jon@latchkey.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:10 PM
> >
> >
> > Thanks for taking your pain out on this list. We appreciate it. :-)
> >
> > -jon
> >
> > --
> > "Open source is not available to commercial companies."
> > -Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft
> > <http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html>
> >
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
Re: I am having the feeling that VelocyMacros are the
shitybitofVelocity
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>
> Oh! We are so sensitive today.
> Did you notice the "for a moment"?
>
> Have fun,
> Paulo
That's all well and good - do you still have the problem?
geir
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:jon@latchkey.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:07 PM
> >
> > > For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
> >
> > Then switch back to FreeMaker.
> >
> > -jon
> >
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
RE: I am having the feeling that VelocyMacros are the shity bitofVelocity
Posted by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>.
Oh! We are so sensitive today.
Did you notice the "for a moment"?
Have fun,
Paulo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Stevens [mailto:jon@latchkey.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:07 PM
>
> > For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
>
> Then switch back to FreeMaker.
>
> -jon
>
Re: I am having the feeling that VelocyMacros are the shity bitof
Velocity
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 6/12/01 10:52 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <pa...@krankikom.de> wrote:
> Still, the macros are shity at the moment. I can't believe that no one
> else has problems with them.
They are working just dandy for me.
> The stranger issue was changing a template with a macro while the web
> server was running and then having some changes showing up, but the
> changes inside the macros not being visible at all. Velocity seems to
> cache the macros and not being aware when their source was changed. When
> developing macros that are private to a page, this is quite inconvenient.
It should be an easy fix. Try playing the the various property settings to
see if you can find one that works.
> For a moment, I was missing FreeMarker.
Then switch back to FreeMaker.
-jon
--
"Open source is not available to commercial companies."
-Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft
<http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html>