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Posted to dev@hama.apache.org by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org> on 2010/02/22 09:05:09 UTC

[DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Hello all,

It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
programming framework?

-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
edwardyoon@apache.org
http://blog.udanax.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by Hyunsik Choi <hy...@gmail.com>.
Ok. And then, we need to talk about what we have to do first. It would
be good for us to have a overall road map.

Best regards,
--
Hyunsik Choi
Database & Information Systems Group, Korea Univ.
http://diveintodata.org



On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
> Re-sending, 2. more participation from 3rd party..
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
>> My plan is to move all classes of matrix operations to exampels
>> package except stuffs related to matrix structure and input/output
>> formatter.
>>
>> Then, it leaves only core functionality in hama package, such as, io,
>> graph (graph computing framework), bsp (BSP programming framework),
>> util , and the package for graph and matrix structure.
>>
>> Benefits are,
>>
>> 1. can release ahead of schedule.
>> 2. can encourage 3d party application development.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Mari <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Toni, Yon please saquenme de la lista de mails. Gracias.
>>>
>>> Enviado.
>>>
>>>
>>> El 22/02/2010, a las 04:05, "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
>>>> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
>>>> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
>>>> programming framework?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>>>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.udanax.org
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>> http://blog.udanax.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
> edwardyoon@apache.org
> http://blog.udanax.org
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
Re-sending, 2. more participation from 3rd party..

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
> My plan is to move all classes of matrix operations to exampels
> package except stuffs related to matrix structure and input/output
> formatter.
>
> Then, it leaves only core functionality in hama package, such as, io,
> graph (graph computing framework), bsp (BSP programming framework),
> util , and the package for graph and matrix structure.
>
> Benefits are,
>
> 1. can release ahead of schedule.
> 2. can encourage 3d party application development.
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Mari <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Toni, Yon please saquenme de la lista de mails. Gracias.
>>
>> Enviado.
>>
>>
>> El 22/02/2010, a las 04:05, "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
>>> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
>>> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
>>> programming framework?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>>> http://blog.udanax.org
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
> edwardyoon@apache.org
> http://blog.udanax.org
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
edwardyoon@apache.org
http://blog.udanax.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
My plan is to move all classes of matrix operations to exampels
package except stuffs related to matrix structure and input/output
formatter.

Then, it leaves only core functionality in hama package, such as, io,
graph (graph computing framework), bsp (BSP programming framework),
util , and the package for graph and matrix structure.

Benefits are,

1. can release ahead of schedule.
2. can encourage 3d party application development.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Mari <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Toni, Yon please saquenme de la lista de mails. Gracias.
>
> Enviado.
>
>
> El 22/02/2010, a las 04:05, "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>
> escribió:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
>> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
>> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
>> programming framework?
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>> http://blog.udanax.org
>>
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
edwardyoon@apache.org
http://blog.udanax.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by Mari <ma...@hotmail.com>.
Toni, Yon please saquenme de la lista de mails. Gracias.

Enviado.


El 22/02/2010, a las 04:05, "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>  
escribió:

> Hello all,
>
> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
> programming framework?
>
> -- 
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
> edwardyoon@apache.org
> http://blog.udanax.org
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by Hyunsik Choi <hy...@gmail.com>.
I commented on HAMA-199.

--
Hyunsik Choi
Database & Information Systems Group, Korea Univ.


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
> Em, yes.
>
> I wrote somewhat shortly, but you seems understand what I'm to say.
>
>> agree with you. Above all, we need to discuss a road map about our
>> future plan.
>
> BTW, since we've not had much experience in BSP, perhaps we need to
> more work on BSP package before the build plan.
>
> How's HAMA-199 going?
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Hyunsik Choi <hy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Due to MR's inherent characteristics, current implementation has some
>> limitations to deal with all of the linear algebra operations. So, I
>> agree with you. Above all, we need to discuss a road map about our
>> future plan.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Hyunsik Choi
>> Database & Information Systems Group, Korea Univ.
>> http://diveintodata.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
>>> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
>>> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
>>> programming framework?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>>> http://blog.udanax.org
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
> edwardyoon@apache.org
> http://blog.udanax.org
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
Em, yes.

I wrote somewhat shortly, but you seems understand what I'm to say.

> agree with you. Above all, we need to discuss a road map about our
> future plan.

BTW, since we've not had much experience in BSP, perhaps we need to
more work on BSP package before the build plan.

How's HAMA-199 going?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Hyunsik Choi <hy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Due to MR's inherent characteristics, current implementation has some
> limitations to deal with all of the linear algebra operations. So, I
> agree with you. Above all, we need to discuss a road map about our
> future plan.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Hyunsik Choi
> Database & Information Systems Group, Korea Univ.
> http://diveintodata.org
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
>> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
>> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
>> programming framework?
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
>> edwardyoon@apache.org
>> http://blog.udanax.org
>>
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
edwardyoon@apache.org
http://blog.udanax.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Re-factoring as a linear algebra programming framework.

Posted by Hyunsik Choi <hy...@gmail.com>.
Due to MR's inherent characteristics, current implementation has some
limitations to deal with all of the linear algebra operations. So, I
agree with you. Above all, we need to discuss a road map about our
future plan.

Best regards,
--
Hyunsik Choi
Database & Information Systems Group, Korea Univ.
http://diveintodata.org



On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Edward J. Yoon <ed...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> It is not easy to implement all operations of linear algebra using M/R
> or BSP. So, what do you think about moving current operations to
> examples package and refactoring matrix package as a linear algebra
> programming framework?
>
> --
> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
> edwardyoon@apache.org
> http://blog.udanax.org
>