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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> on 2013/11/07 13:44:12 UTC
missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona
Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
so this goes to general@ list.
Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
Does anyone know why?
Are they missing moderators or something?
-David
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Jake Farrell wrote:
> >
> > I've started to clean up the voter status page ...
Thanks. Let us hope that that enourages podlings to continue
to follow through.
> ... and have been finishing the
> > incubator closing steps for projects that have already graduated.
However this finalisation stuff is difficult
if one was not associated with the project.
Tweaking the podlings.xml is just one very final step.
I usually leave it there as a sign that there is stuff to be done.
>> Updates
> > for the projects listed below should start appearing shortly as the nightly
> > scripts run. Hopefully these steps will make it easier for the tools to
> > function as intended
For the "Vote Monitor" yes, as it is completely overloaded.
For Clutch (not automated) it is doing is intended job.
The "History" chart is automated, but i wonder if it
skipped two becuase of the problem below.
> Do the instructions need some tweaking to explain that
> the "enddate" needs to be added for each?
The tools are crude and do not expect partial information.
Please do follow the instructions, and if they are not clear
then help to refine.
-David
>
> > Chukwa, DeltaSpike, jclouds, Tashi
> >
> > -Jake
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Jake Farrell wrote:
> I've started to clean up the voter status page and have been finishing the
> incubator closing steps for projects that have already graduated. Updates
> for the projects listed below should start appearing shortly as the nightly
> scripts run. Hopefully these steps will make it easier for the tools to
> function as intended
Do the instructions need some tweaking to explain that
the "enddate" needs to be added for each?
-David
> Chukwa, DeltaSpike, jclouds, Tashi
>
> -Jake
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > David,
> > >
> > > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
> > >
> > > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> > >
> > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
> >
> > Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> > They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> > clean up in their wake.
> >
> > Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> > us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> > there is too much fluff.
> >
> > DeltaSpike is not the only one.
> >
> > See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> > which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
> >
> > The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> > also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
> >
> > I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> > as TLPs.
> >
> > (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> > I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
> >
> > -David
> >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee
> > mail
> > > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > > >
> > > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > >
> > > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > > >
> > > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > > >
> > > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > and then the bottom table.
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -David
> > > > >
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>.
I've started to clean up the voter status page and have been finishing the
incubator closing steps for projects that have already graduated. Updates
for the projects listed below should start appearing shortly as the nightly
scripts run. Hopefully these steps will make it easier for the tools to
function as intended
Chukwa, DeltaSpike, jclouds, Tashi
-Jake
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> John D. Ament wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
> >
> > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> >
> > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
>
> Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> clean up in their wake.
>
> Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> there is too much fluff.
>
> DeltaSpike is not the only one.
>
> See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
>
> The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
>
> I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> as TLPs.
>
> (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
>
> -David
>
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > Hi David
> > > > >
> > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee
> mail
> > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > >
> > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > >
> > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > >
> > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > >
> > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > >
> > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > >
> > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > >
> > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > and then the bottom table.
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -David
> > > >
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
I've decided that I must have been doing *something* wrong as I was just
able to commit to this file.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:46 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> John D. Ament wrote:
> > Well, must be missing something. I'm 'johndament' yet I don't have write
> > access to the trunk.
>
> I used to understand svn auth, but not so sure now.
> Following this:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#who-auth-karma
>
> It seems to me that all in "committers" as well as
> all in the "incubator" group have rw access
> to incubator/public/trunk/
>
> Do your fellow project committers also have this trouble?
>
> If so, i wonder if this identifies a problem which indicates
> why few people have edited podlings.xml or fix the website docs.
> If so, then i would be horrifed that they have not told us.
>
> -David
>
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > > Well, I can appreciate the frustration.
> > > >
> > > > I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights
> > > > required to edit podlings.xml?
> > >
> > > IIUC then everyone who comes through the Incubator is able:
> > > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > > > > David,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating
> at
> > > [1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> > > > > They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> > > > > clean up in their wake.
> > > > >
> > > > > Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> > > > > us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> > > > > there is too much fluff.
> > > > >
> > > > > DeltaSpike is not the only one.
> > > > >
> > > > > See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> > > > > which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
> > > > >
> > > > > The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> > > > > also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
> > > > >
> > > > > I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> > > > > as TLPs.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> > > > > I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <
> crossley@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got
> > > batchee
> > > > > mail
> > > > > > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > > > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > > > > > e.g.
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > > > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > > > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > > > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > > > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > > > > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > > > > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > > > > and then the bottom table.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev
> > > lists.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > > > >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
John D. Ament wrote:
> Well, must be missing something. I'm 'johndament' yet I don't have write
> access to the trunk.
I used to understand svn auth, but not so sure now.
Following this:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#who-auth-karma
It seems to me that all in "committers" as well as
all in the "incubator" group have rw access
to incubator/public/trunk/
Do your fellow project committers also have this trouble?
If so, i wonder if this identifies a problem which indicates
why few people have edited podlings.xml or fix the website docs.
If so, then i would be horrifed that they have not told us.
-David
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > Well, I can appreciate the frustration.
> > >
> > > I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights
> > > required to edit podlings.xml?
> >
> > IIUC then everyone who comes through the Incubator is able:
> > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator
> >
> > -David
> >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > > > David,
> > > > >
> > > > > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at
> > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> > > > They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> > > > clean up in their wake.
> > > >
> > > > Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> > > > us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> > > > there is too much fluff.
> > > >
> > > > DeltaSpike is not the only one.
> > > >
> > > > See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> > > > which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
> > > >
> > > > The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> > > > also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
> > > >
> > > > I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> > > > as TLPs.
> > > >
> > > > (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> > > > I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got
> > batchee
> > > > mail
> > > > > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > > > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > > > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > > > and then the bottom table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev
> > lists.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
Well, must be missing something. I'm 'johndament' yet I don't have write
access to the trunk.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> John D. Ament wrote:
> > Well, I can appreciate the frustration.
> >
> > I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights
> > required to edit podlings.xml?
>
> IIUC then everyone who comes through the Incubator is able:
> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator
>
> -David
>
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at
> [1]
> > > >
> > > > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> > > >
> > > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
> > >
> > > Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> > > They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> > > clean up in their wake.
> > >
> > > Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> > > us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> > > there is too much fluff.
> > >
> > > DeltaSpike is not the only one.
> > >
> > > See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> > > which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
> > >
> > > The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> > > also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
> > >
> > > I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> > > as TLPs.
> > >
> > > (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> > > I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got
> batchee
> > > mail
> > > > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > > > >
> > > > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > > and then the bottom table.
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev
> lists.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
John D. Ament wrote:
> Well, I can appreciate the frustration.
>
> I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights
> required to edit podlings.xml?
IIUC then everyone who comes through the Incubator is able:
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator
-David
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > John D. Ament wrote:
> > > David,
> > >
> > > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
> > >
> > > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> > >
> > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
> >
> > Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> > They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> > clean up in their wake.
> >
> > Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> > us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> > there is too much fluff.
> >
> > DeltaSpike is not the only one.
> >
> > See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> > which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
> >
> > The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> > also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
> >
> > I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> > as TLPs.
> >
> > (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> > I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
> >
> > -David
> >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee
> > mail
> > > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > > >
> > > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > >
> > > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > > >
> > > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > > >
> > > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > > and then the bottom table.
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -David
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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Re: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
Well, I can appreciate the frustration.
I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights
required to edit podlings.xml?
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> John D. Ament wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
> >
> > Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
> >
> > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
>
> Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
> They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
> clean up in their wake.
>
> Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
> us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
> there is too much fluff.
>
> DeltaSpike is not the only one.
>
> See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
> which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
>
> The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
> also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
>
> I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
> as TLPs.
>
> (Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
> I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
>
> -David
>
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > David Crossley wrote:
> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > > Hi David
> > > > >
> > > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee
> mail
> > > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > > >
> > > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > > >
> > > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > >
> > > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > > >
> > > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > > >
> > > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > > >
> > > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> > >
> > > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > > and then the bottom table.
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
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Re: Fwd: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
> Yup, I already replied to sebb on that - I'll take a look at the podling
> stuff today.
Thanks, abayer!
ap
Re: Fwd: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
Yup, I already replied to sebb on that - I'll take a look at the podling
stuff today.
A.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Ignasi <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I checked the site, and jclouds is already added as a TLP, and the
> commitee-info.txt has already been filled with the appropriate
> information (thx, Andrew B.!).
> I'm not sure what can be remaining, as those two points are the ones
> "sebb" commented in another thread...
>
> On 8 November 2013 14:11, Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com> wrote:
> >> It seems that jclouds has stuff to clean up in the incubator.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what needs be cleaned up (and how to do it)? I can
> >> help with that.
> >
> >
> > I'm assuming the tasks are as described here:
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> >
> > I haven't looked in detail yet to determine which ones are still open for
> > jclouds, though. Perhaps we could make a JIRA issue just to track what
> still
> > needs to be done..?
> >
> > ap
>
Re: Fwd: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by Ignasi <ig...@gmail.com>.
I checked the site, and jclouds is already added as a TLP, and the
commitee-info.txt has already been filled with the appropriate
information (thx, Andrew B.!).
I'm not sure what can be remaining, as those two points are the ones
"sebb" commented in another thread...
On 8 November 2013 14:11, Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com> wrote:
>> It seems that jclouds has stuff to clean up in the incubator.
>>
>> Does anyone know what needs be cleaned up (and how to do it)? I can
>> help with that.
>
>
> I'm assuming the tasks are as described here:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
>
> I haven't looked in detail yet to determine which ones are still open for
> jclouds, though. Perhaps we could make a JIRA issue just to track what still
> needs to be done..?
>
> ap
Re: Fwd: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
> It seems that jclouds has stuff to clean up in the incubator.
>
> Does anyone know what needs be cleaned up (and how to do it)? I can
> help with that.
I'm assuming the tasks are as described here:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
I haven't looked in detail yet to determine which ones are still open
for jclouds, though. Perhaps we could make a JIRA issue just to track
what still needs to be done..?
ap
Fwd: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by Ignasi <ig...@gmail.com>.
It seems that jclouds has stuff to clean up in the incubator.
Does anyone know what needs be cleaned up (and how to do it)? I can
help with that.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>
Date: 7 November 2013 23:45
Subject: projects "graduated" need to tidy up
To: general@incubator.apache.org
John D. Ament wrote:
> David,
>
> On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
>
> Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
>
> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
clean up in their wake.
Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
there is too much fluff.
DeltaSpike is not the only one.
See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
as TLPs.
(Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
-David
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > David Crossley wrote:
> > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > Hi David
> > > >
> > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
> > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > >
> > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > >
> > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > >
> > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > >
> > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > >
> > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > >
> > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> >
> > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > and then the bottom table.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > >
> > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
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projects "graduated" need to tidy up
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
John D. Ament wrote:
> David,
>
> On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
>
> Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
>
> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
Because these "graduated" projects do not tidy up after themselves.
They seem to leave everything for other Incubator volunteers to
clean up in their wake.
Such a mess causes the Incubator tools, that try so hard to help
us all, to become overloaded and then not as useful because
there is too much fluff.
DeltaSpike is not the only one.
See the list that poor Clutch tries so desperately to highlight:
http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other
which also attempts to directly link them to the relevant docs.
The projects listing http://incubator.apache.org/projects/
also tries to encourage projects to maintain their own records.
I presume that these projects will continue such behaviour
as TLPs.
(Sorry if i come across as frustrated in these threads.
I certainly am, but trying to curb it.)
-David
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > David Crossley wrote:
> > > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > > Hi David
> > > >
> > > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
> > > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> > >
> > > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> > >
> > > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > >
> > > There is only the "commits" archives.
> > >
> > > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> > >
> > > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> > >
> > > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > > that and add it to this doc.
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
> >
> > The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> > has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> > See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> > and then the bottom table.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > > >
> > > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > >
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Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
David,
On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1]
Note the table on the 3rd bullet.
[1]: http://incubator.apache.org/
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > Hi David
> > >
> > > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
> > > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
> >
> > The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> > by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
> >
> > See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> > e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> >
> > There is only the "commits" archives.
> >
> > Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> > Infra until your resources are properly established.
> >
> > And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
> >
> > [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> > how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> > I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> > that and add it to this doc.
> > http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
>
> The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
> has also been trying to warn about this issue.
> See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
> and then the bottom table.
>
> -David
>
> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > > >
> > > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > > >
> > > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > > >
> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know why?
> > > >
> > > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > > >
> > > > -David
> >
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> >
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Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Hi David
> >
> > not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
> > this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
>
> The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
>
> See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
>
> There is only the "commits" archives.
>
> Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> Infra until your resources are properly established.
>
> And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
>
> [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> that and add it to this doc.
> http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
The "Voting Status" monitor (the poor neglected thing!)
has also been trying to warn about this issue.
See the top-left of http://incubator.apache.org/
and then the bottom table.
-David
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >
> >
> > 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> > >
> > > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > > so this goes to general@ list.
> > >
> > > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> > >
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why?
> > >
> > > Are they missing moderators or something?
> > >
> > > -David
>
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Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6977
On 8 November 2013 08:20, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>> Hi David
>>
>> not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
>> this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
>
> The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
> by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
>
> See the URL provided below in my initial email.
> e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
>
> There is only the "commits" archives.
>
> Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
> Infra until your resources are properly established.
>
> And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
>
> [1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
> how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
> I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
> that and add it to this doc.
> http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
>
> -David
>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
>> >
>> > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
>> >
>> > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
>> > so this goes to general@ list.
>> >
>> > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
>> >
>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
>> >
>> > Does anyone know why?
>> >
>> > Are they missing moderators or something?
>> >
>> > -David
>
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Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> Hi David
>
> not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
> this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
The "archives". Clutch gathers the mail list addresses
by ensuring that the archives are available [1].
See the URL provided below in my initial email.
e.g. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
There is only the "commits" archives.
Someone from these two projects needs to follow up with
Infra until your resources are properly established.
And this is why you are not receiving the report reminders.
[1] We should enhance this page to explain more detail about
how the set of reporting mailing list addresses are handled.
I have explained it many times in email, so we should find
that and add it to this doc.
http://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html#reminders
-David
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>
>
> 2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> >
> > Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
> >
> > Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> > so this goes to general@ list.
> >
> > Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
> >
> > Does anyone know why?
> >
> > Are they missing moderators or something?
> >
> > -David
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Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi David
not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail
this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday
Romain Manni-Bucau
Twitter: @rmannibucau
Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
2013/11/7 David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>:
> Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona.
>
> Their email dev list archive is not yet available,
> so this goes to general@ list.
>
> Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists.
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#sirona.incubator
>
> Does anyone know why?
>
> Are they missing moderators or something?
>
> -David
>
>
>
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