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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl> on 2003/10/24 22:10:07 UTC
[users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
I used Apache 1.3.** for a long time, but two days ago it suddenly became a useless program after installing ZoneAlarm on my pc. I thought it was ZoneAlarm that blocked Apache so I removed it and installed Norton InternetSecurity (which I had before ZoneAlarm). After the installation Apache still didn't so I decided to reinstall it. I downloaded the newest version of Apache 2 and installed it. In the systray it now displays that Apache is running, but I'm still not able to view my pages. I don't think that it's my firewall which causes the problem, because if even I shut it down the problem is still the same. Anybody who can help to make Apache worth the diskspace again ;)?
Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Mike Klein <mi...@sbcglobal.net>.
With the # of people using Apache successfully (& behind firewalls!),
and given it's general quality overall, etc. etc. you really should
think before phrasing your subject as you did.
You should've stated "I failed to do my job properly"...or "Problems
with apache behind firewall".
A simple test is to try a telnet to port 80 (not from the server running
apache) and see if telnet activates or hangs with no connection
available. You might also want to check your apache logs when trying to
request a page.
To paraphrase a recent saying "It's the firewall stupid".
ZoneAlarm is an excellent program and I have no problems using Apache
with it on my windows laptop (only for dev't purposes I assure
you...real stuff is run on Linux).
mike
A. Gideonse wrote:
>Well, if it answered already then pls give me the answer because I can't
>find it...
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
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>>A. Gideonse wrote:
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>>>I used Apache 1.3.** for a long time, but two days ago it suddenly
>>>became a useless program after installing ZoneAlarm on my pc. I thought
>>>it was ZoneAlarm that blocked Apache so I removed it and installed
>>>Norton InternetSecurity (which I had before ZoneAlarm). After the
>>>installation Apache still didn't so I decided to reinstall it. I
>>>downloaded the newest version of Apache 2 and installed it. In the
>>>systray it now displays that Apache is running, but I'm still not able
>>>to view my pages. I don't think that it's my firewall which causes the
>>>problem, because if even I shut it down the problem is still the same.
>>>Anybody who can help to make Apache worth the diskspace again ;)?
>>>
>>>
>>Asked and answered.
>>
>>--
>>Aaron W Morris <aa...@mindspring.com> (decep)
>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Well, if it answered already then pls give me the answer because I can't
find it...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Morris" <aa...@mindspring.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
> A. Gideonse wrote:
>
> > I used Apache 1.3.** for a long time, but two days ago it suddenly
> > became a useless program after installing ZoneAlarm on my pc. I thought
> > it was ZoneAlarm that blocked Apache so I removed it and installed
> > Norton InternetSecurity (which I had before ZoneAlarm). After the
> > installation Apache still didn't so I decided to reinstall it. I
> > downloaded the newest version of Apache 2 and installed it. In the
> > systray it now displays that Apache is running, but I'm still not able
> > to view my pages. I don't think that it's my firewall which causes the
> > problem, because if even I shut it down the problem is still the same.
> > Anybody who can help to make Apache worth the diskspace again ;)?
>
> Asked and answered.
>
> --
> Aaron W Morris <aa...@mindspring.com> (decep)
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Aaron Morris <aa...@mindspring.com>.
A. Gideonse wrote:
> I used Apache 1.3.** for a long time, but two days ago it suddenly
> became a useless program after installing ZoneAlarm on my pc. I thought
> it was ZoneAlarm that blocked Apache so I removed it and installed
> Norton InternetSecurity (which I had before ZoneAlarm). After the
> installation Apache still didn't so I decided to reinstall it. I
> downloaded the newest version of Apache 2 and installed it. In the
> systray it now displays that Apache is running, but I'm still not able
> to view my pages. I don't think that it's my firewall which causes the
> problem, because if even I shut it down the problem is still the same.
> Anybody who can help to make Apache worth the diskspace again ;)?
Asked and answered.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by hunter <th...@sympatico.ca>.
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 10:19, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
> 192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local network (with
> 80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1). Seems like apache is running as an intranet
> server. Other users can't connect to my server on all those ip's. If I shut
> down my firewall then they still can't connect.
>
> I don't know what ip it is bound to, but it used to work with 80.60.18.78
> (my ip given by my isp).
>
> I uploaded my conf files, because the problem might be in there... You can
> find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonas Eckerman" <jo...@frukt.org>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
> > But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
> > can't...
>
> Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
> Are other users connecting from other machines?
>
> If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
> the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>
> IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
> binding Apache to?
>
> /Jonas
Just a guess...
But my experience has shown that ServerName must be a proper Domain Name
to be Internet visable or the Internet IP address. I get by with the
computername if WINS exists or NT can broadcast to resolve it. I have in
the past broken my Apache by putting an invalid name here - not setting
it at all use to work better than setting it wron (on Windows).
#
# ServerName gives the name and port that the server uses to identify itself.
# This can often be determined automatically, but we recommend you specify
# it explicitly to prevent problems during startup.
#
# If this is not set to valid DNS name for your host, server-generated
# redirections will not work. See also the UseCanonicalName directive.
#
# If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here.
# You will have to access it by its address anyway, and this will make
# redirections work in a sensible way.
#
ServerName ArnoOnline
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Uninstalled older apache and deleted the files that remained in the
installation dir. After that I restarted, check for running apaches with
taskmanager (result was 0) and installed apache 2.
Port 80 is used by apache and is now also open with a permit rule in my
firewall:
Apache/2.0.47 (Win32) PHP/4.3.3 Server at 80.60.18.78 Port 80
However, my MySQL says that it is running on 192.168.0.1 (local network
adress).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
If you have restarted the server before, then restarting it again
most likely will not help. OK.. Wait.. you installed a new version
of Apache? Did you uninstall the old one, or make sure that
the old one is not still running? Maybe you have two version running
and they are fighting with each other?
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On 10/25/2003 at 6:15 PM A. Gideonse wrote:
>My ISP allows me to use a server. I did it for years and now suddenly
>after
>installing a new apache and firewall my server doesnt work anymore. My
>server was down the last few hours because nobody can use it right now,
>that's also the reason why you can't connect. Apache got the rights to have
>communication with the internet so the ports must be open. Isn't it true
>that port 80 is by default open to view pages? Anyway, ill make a rule to
>permit communication and ill start my server again. Hope that works, but
>the
>past few days it didnt.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
>
>Do you know that the ISP allows traffic on port 80?? Not all ISP do.
>That would be the first thing that I would check. If you have the machine
>behind a firewall, then you need to be sure that you have a hole in
>your firewall for port 80, 8088, 8080, etc. Which ever port you are
>using.
>
>I tried to get to your machine under the IP address that you gave
>and it did not find it either. Which I know that is what you
>stated.
>
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>On 10/25/2003 at 4:19 PM A. Gideonse wrote:
>
>>I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
>>192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local network (with
>>80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1). Seems like apache is running as an intranet
>>server. Other users can't connect to my server on all those ip's. If I
>shut
>>down my firewall then they still can't connect.
>>
>>I don't know what ip it is bound to, but it used to work with 80.60.18.78
>>(my ip given by my isp).
>>
>>I uploaded my conf files, because the problem might be in there... You can
>>find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jonas Eckerman" <jo...@frukt.org>
>>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>>
>>
>>> But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
>>> can't...
>>
>>Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
>>Are other users connecting from other machines?
>>
>>If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
>>the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>>
>>IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
>>binding Apache to?
>>
>>/Jonas
>>
>>--
>>Jonas Eckerman, jonas_lists@frukt.org
>>http://www.fsdb.org/
>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
If you have restarted the server before, then restarting it again
most likely will not help. OK.. Wait.. you installed a new version
of Apache? Did you uninstall the old one, or make sure that
the old one is not still running? Maybe you have two version running
and they are fighting with each other?
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On 10/25/2003 at 6:15 PM A. Gideonse wrote:
>My ISP allows me to use a server. I did it for years and now suddenly
>after
>installing a new apache and firewall my server doesnt work anymore. My
>server was down the last few hours because nobody can use it right now,
>that's also the reason why you can't connect. Apache got the rights to have
>communication with the internet so the ports must be open. Isn't it true
>that port 80 is by default open to view pages? Anyway, ill make a rule to
>permit communication and ill start my server again. Hope that works, but
>the
>past few days it didnt.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
>
>Do you know that the ISP allows traffic on port 80?? Not all ISP do.
>That would be the first thing that I would check. If you have the machine
>behind a firewall, then you need to be sure that you have a hole in
>your firewall for port 80, 8088, 8080, etc. Which ever port you are
>using.
>
>I tried to get to your machine under the IP address that you gave
>and it did not find it either. Which I know that is what you
>stated.
>
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>On 10/25/2003 at 4:19 PM A. Gideonse wrote:
>
>>I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
>>192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local network (with
>>80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1). Seems like apache is running as an intranet
>>server. Other users can't connect to my server on all those ip's. If I
>shut
>>down my firewall then they still can't connect.
>>
>>I don't know what ip it is bound to, but it used to work with 80.60.18.78
>>(my ip given by my isp).
>>
>>I uploaded my conf files, because the problem might be in there... You can
>>find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jonas Eckerman" <jo...@frukt.org>
>>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>>
>>
>>> But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
>>> can't...
>>
>>Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
>>Are other users connecting from other machines?
>>
>>If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
>>the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>>
>>IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
>>binding Apache to?
>>
>>/Jonas
>>
>>--
>>Jonas Eckerman, jonas_lists@frukt.org
>>http://www.fsdb.org/
>>
>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Ping works
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Arno>ping yahoo.com
Pinging yahoo.com [66.218.71.198] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.218.71.198: bytes=32 time=202ms TTL=237
Reply from 66.218.71.198: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=237
Reply from 66.218.71.198: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=237
Reply from 66.218.71.198: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=237
Ping statistics for 66.218.71.198:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 165ms, Maximum = 202ms, Average = 175ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Arno>ping 4.2.2.2
Pinging 4.2.2.2 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=235
Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=235
Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=235
Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=235
Ping statistics for 4.2.2.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 96ms, Maximum = 98ms, Average = 97ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Arno>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Lets not install Norton just yet. If you do not see the two IP address,
then you have something else wrong. Lets start with some basics
at this point. Jonas, do you not agree??
>From that machine, can you ping an address?? Try to ping
yahoo.com, or 4.2.2.2 if you can ping BOTH of these then
we are on the right path, if not You have more going on
then Apache.
Let us know what happens??
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On 10/26/2003 at 2:21 AM A. Gideonse wrote:
>I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule (now I
>have
>two rules: inbound and inbound/outbound). Still no results... I'll try to
>reinstall Norton again and see if that works...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
>
>Jonas,
>
>He should see my IP address as well. X.X.32.15
>in the logs. I did what you did with the IP address and
>:80 I tried to reach the machine this AM, and could not
>get anything.
>
>
>
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>On 10/26/2003 at 1:47 AM Jonas Eckerman wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:14:26 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>>
>>> >>> I have a lot of logs like this one:
>>
>>> TCP Destination Port: 3849
>>
>>Do you have any logs for destination port 80?
>>
>>Can you find any entries for IP address 213.114.173.199 in your
>>firewall or Apache logs? I just tried to connect to 80.60.18.78:80
>>from that IP, so if the connection attempt ever reached your machine,
>>it should show in at least one of your logs.
>>
>>> When I connect to my server with my own computer it says that my
>>> 'permit-rule' works:
>>[...]
>>> Outbound TCP connection
>>
>>That seems to say the your *outbound* connection firs that
>>permit-rule.
>>
>>> Made a rule to permit communication from and to my computer,
>>> from any computer on port 80.
>>
>>I don't know Norton at all, but in all firewalls I've ever seen,
>>that's simply not how it's done. One rule is never for both incoming
>>*and* outgoing traffic. I'd be a little bit surprised if Symantec's
>>firewall is that different in this regard.
>>
>>Are you sure that you haven't simply permitted outgoing connections
>>with destination or originating port 80?
>>
>>The symptoms really does make it look like a firewall or router
>>problem.
>>
>>Regards
>>/Jonas
>>
>>--
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>>http://www.fsdb.org/
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Lets not install Norton just yet. If you do not see the two IP address,
then you have something else wrong. Lets start with some basics
at this point. Jonas, do you not agree??
>From that machine, can you ping an address?? Try to ping
yahoo.com, or 4.2.2.2 if you can ping BOTH of these then
we are on the right path, if not You have more going on
then Apache.
Let us know what happens??
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>I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule (now I
>have
>two rules: inbound and inbound/outbound). Still no results... I'll try to
>reinstall Norton again and see if that works...
>
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>
>
>
>Jonas,
>
>He should see my IP address as well. X.X.32.15
>in the logs. I did what you did with the IP address and
>:80 I tried to reach the machine this AM, and could not
>get anything.
>
>
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>>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:14:26 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>>
>>> >>> I have a lot of logs like this one:
>>
>>> TCP Destination Port: 3849
>>
>>Do you have any logs for destination port 80?
>>
>>Can you find any entries for IP address 213.114.173.199 in your
>>firewall or Apache logs? I just tried to connect to 80.60.18.78:80
>>from that IP, so if the connection attempt ever reached your machine,
>>it should show in at least one of your logs.
>>
>>> When I connect to my server with my own computer it says that my
>>> 'permit-rule' works:
>>[...]
>>> Outbound TCP connection
>>
>>That seems to say the your *outbound* connection firs that
>>permit-rule.
>>
>>> Made a rule to permit communication from and to my computer,
>>> from any computer on port 80.
>>
>>I don't know Norton at all, but in all firewalls I've ever seen,
>>that's simply not how it's done. One rule is never for both incoming
>>*and* outgoing traffic. I'd be a little bit surprised if Symantec's
>>firewall is that different in this regard.
>>
>>Are you sure that you haven't simply permitted outgoing connections
>>with destination or originating port 80?
>>
>>The symptoms really does make it look like a firewall or router
>>problem.
>>
>>Regards
>>/Jonas
>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
ZoneAlarm had detailed logs. If somebody can assure me that it works with
apache then I can install that one and use the logs in that firewall.
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Jonas,
I am not sure anymore if Norton will give detail log info.
I do not use it anymore. I have been using the Free version
of Tiny person firewall.
Steven
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>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:21:29 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>> I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule
>
>Can you find 213.114.173.199 in your firewall log now? I've just
>tried pinging 80.60.18.78 as well as connecting to port 23, 135, 138,
>25, 21, 22 and 31234. That should have generated some log entries in
>your firewall log if those connections reached your machine.
>
>Is it possible to get some relly detailed debug logs or some realtime
>packet listings with Norton Firewall?
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Jonas,
I am not sure anymore if Norton will give detail log info.
I do not use it anymore. I have been using the Free version
of Tiny person firewall.
Steven
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>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:21:29 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>> I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule
>
>Can you find 213.114.173.199 in your firewall log now? I've just
>tried pinging 80.60.18.78 as well as connecting to port 23, 135, 138,
>25, 21, 22 and 31234. That should have generated some log entries in
>your firewall log if those connections reached your machine.
>
>Is it possible to get some relly detailed debug logs or some realtime
>packet listings with Norton Firewall?
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
It is good to hear that you did get the server working again. A "PROPER" server is
mainly based on the kind of environment that you are running. A "personal" home
server would be config different the a server for Amazon.
I would suggest that you get a book on Apache and Security, that way you
can look at the Config files for your machine and what they give you
and make a decision from there.
Make sure that you have the current patchs that are available, and
that you have a good firewall on your machine.
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>Well, after I got my ports open I tried to make a hole for my apache and
>see
>if that worked. After 30 minutes of running between a standalone computer
>(with dialup) and the networks computers I got it working. I guess my
>server
>now works correct. The only thing that I noticed was that a scan resulted
>this:
>
>HTTP web services publish web pages. A misconfigured web server can not
>only
>offer an attacker needed information about his target, but it can allow for
>various security breaches.
>
>I think that my server is configured in a right way, but I'm not sure. Can
>somebody pls give me a confirmation that this is normal? Or that I need to
>do something to ensure my security.
>
>I want to thank everybody who helped me with this apache problem. I really
>appreciate the help.
>
>.Arno
>
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>
>
>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:17:53 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
>
>> All portst are stealthed without my firewall running.... How is
>> that possible...
>
>This really hasn't got anything to do with Apache...
>
>Are you sure you completely got rid if the other FireWall?
>If you're running WinXP: Have you made sure that Windows built in
>firewall isn't running?
>Are you sure your ISP isn't firewalling your machine?
>Are you sure that you have the IP address you think you have?
>
>Start by checking this stuff. If it doesn't help, I'd suggest finding
>group wher IP issues on Windows discussed, or maybe calling your ISPs
>support if they are willing to give free support for this kind of
>things.
>
>If you own the copy of Norton Firewall you installed, you could also
>ask Symantec's support.
>
>/Jonas
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Well, after I got my ports open I tried to make a hole for my apache and see
if that worked. After 30 minutes of running between a standalone computer
(with dialup) and the networks computers I got it working. I guess my server
now works correct. The only thing that I noticed was that a scan resulted
this:
HTTP web services publish web pages. A misconfigured web server can not only
offer an attacker needed information about his target, but it can allow for
various security breaches.
I think that my server is configured in a right way, but I'm not sure. Can
somebody pls give me a confirmation that this is normal? Or that I need to
do something to ensure my security.
I want to thank everybody who helped me with this apache problem. I really
appreciate the help.
.Arno
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:17:53 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> All portst are stealthed without my firewall running.... How is
> that possible...
This really hasn't got anything to do with Apache...
Are you sure you completely got rid if the other FireWall?
If you're running WinXP: Have you made sure that Windows built in
firewall isn't running?
Are you sure your ISP isn't firewalling your machine?
Are you sure that you have the IP address you think you have?
Start by checking this stuff. If it doesn't help, I'd suggest finding
group wher IP issues on Windows discussed, or maybe calling your ISPs
support if they are willing to give free support for this kind of
things.
If you own the copy of Norton Firewall you installed, you could also
ask Symantec's support.
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Ok, I reinstalled my internet connection and the problem is gone. If I now
turn off my firewall then allmost all my ports are open or blocked (but not
stealthed).
A: Are you sure you have a static IP?
Yes, given by the ISP
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:17:53 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> All portst are stealthed without my firewall running.... How is
> that possible...
This really hasn't got anything to do with Apache...
Are you sure you completely got rid if the other FireWall?
If you're running WinXP: Have you made sure that Windows built in
firewall isn't running?
Are you sure your ISP isn't firewalling your machine?
Are you sure that you have the IP address you think you have?
Start by checking this stuff. If it doesn't help, I'd suggest finding
group wher IP issues on Windows discussed, or maybe calling your ISPs
support if they are willing to give free support for this kind of
things.
If you own the copy of Norton Firewall you installed, you could also
ask Symantec's support.
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:17:53 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> All portst are stealthed without my firewall running.... How is
> that possible...
This really hasn't got anything to do with Apache...
Are you sure you completely got rid if the other FireWall?
If you're running WinXP: Have you made sure that Windows built in
firewall isn't running?
Are you sure your ISP isn't firewalling your machine?
Are you sure that you have the IP address you think you have?
Start by checking this stuff. If it doesn't help, I'd suggest finding
group wher IP issues on Windows discussed, or maybe calling your ISPs
support if they are willing to give free support for this kind of
things.
If you own the copy of Norton Firewall you installed, you could also
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
I just did a port scan on me from a security site and I turned my firewall
OFF. Result:
This port has not responded to any of our probes. It appears to be
completely stealthed.
All portst are stealthed without my firewall running.... How is that
possible...
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:07:55 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> Nope, no entries...
Ok. The we know that one of the following is true:
a: Your firewall does not log all failed connection attempts from
originating from outside your LAN. Ot at least it doesn't log them
with the originating IP address.
b: Your firewall didn't try to block my connections, and doesn't log
connection attempts it doesn't block. (This would actually mean that
the firewall isn't firewalling wich I guess is improbable).
c: My connection attempts never reached your machine.
This should be resolved before trying to figure out anything more
about Apache.
Your not behind a NAT, are you?
How's your LAN connected to the Internet?
Did you find any entries at all for the ports I tried connecting to
(23, 135, 138, 25, 21, 22 and 31234)?
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Robert Andersson <ro...@profundis.nu>.
A. Gideonse wrote:
> I'm not behind a NAT. This computer (server) is connected trough the
> internet directly with an ADSL modem. The other computers have
> internet through this computer.
This implies that you have (at least) two interfaces on your box. Are you
sure that you have configured Apache to listen on both interfaces? Also,
some software firewalls let you have per-interface configuration. Are you
sure your rules apply to the interface hooked to the ADSL modem?
Also, verify that your not running a second firewall, eg. Windows'
(built-in) Personal Firewall.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
I'm not behind a NAT. This computer (server) is connected trough the
internet directly with an ADSL modem. The other computers have internet
through this computer. I didn't find any logs on those ports. I now have a
better log so I might be able to log more activity...
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:07:55 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> Nope, no entries...
Ok. The we know that one of the following is true:
a: Your firewall does not log all failed connection attempts from
originating from outside your LAN. Ot at least it doesn't log them
with the originating IP address.
b: Your firewall didn't try to block my connections, and doesn't log
connection attempts it doesn't block. (This would actually mean that
the firewall isn't firewalling wich I guess is improbable).
c: My connection attempts never reached your machine.
This should be resolved before trying to figure out anything more
about Apache.
Your not behind a NAT, are you?
How's your LAN connected to the Internet?
Did you find any entries at all for the ports I tried connecting to
(23, 135, 138, 25, 21, 22 and 31234)?
Regards
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:07:55 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> Nope, no entries...
Ok. The we know that one of the following is true:
a: Your firewall does not log all failed connection attempts from
originating from outside your LAN. Ot at least it doesn't log them
with the originating IP address.
b: Your firewall didn't try to block my connections, and doesn't log
connection attempts it doesn't block. (This would actually mean that
the firewall isn't firewalling wich I guess is improbable).
c: My connection attempts never reached your machine.
This should be resolved before trying to figure out anything more
about Apache.
Your not behind a NAT, are you?
How's your LAN connected to the Internet?
Did you find any entries at all for the ports I tried connecting to
(23, 135, 138, 25, 21, 22 and 31234)?
Regards
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Nope, no entries...
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:12:17 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can't find the ip now, but that's probadly because I turned my
> computer off after I sended my last email.
Ok. In the hope that it really was left on, I tried to cause some
entries again. Can you find 213.114.173.199 now?
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:12:17 +0100, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can't find the ip now, but that's probadly because I turned my
> computer off after I sended my last email.
Ok. In the hope that it really was left on, I tried to cause some
entries again. Can you find 213.114.173.199 now?
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
I can't find the ip now, but that's probadly because I turned my computer
off after I sended my last email. Anyway: the next 12 hours it's on again.
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:21:29 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule
Can you find 213.114.173.199 in your firewall log now? I've just
tried pinging 80.60.18.78 as well as connecting to port 23, 135, 138,
25, 21, 22 and 31234. That should have generated some log entries in
your firewall log if those connections reached your machine.
Is it possible to get some relly detailed debug logs or some realtime
packet listings with Norton Firewall?
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
I get a load of errormsgs about my email now, so I send this info for the
second time:
I had my computer off this night so I guess you're not in the logs.
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:21:29 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule
Can you find 213.114.173.199 in your firewall log now? I've just
tried pinging 80.60.18.78 as well as connecting to port 23, 135, 138,
25, 21, 22 and 31234. That should have generated some log entries in
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:21:29 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule
Can you find 213.114.173.199 in your firewall log now? I've just
tried pinging 80.60.18.78 as well as connecting to port 23, 135, 138,
25, 21, 22 and 31234. That should have generated some log entries in
your firewall log if those connections reached your machine.
Is it possible to get some relly detailed debug logs or some realtime
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
I can't find both adresses. I added another inbound permit rule (now I have
two rules: inbound and inbound/outbound). Still no results... I'll try to
reinstall Norton again and see if that works...
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From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Jonas,
He should see my IP address as well. X.X.32.15
in the logs. I did what you did with the IP address and
:80 I tried to reach the machine this AM, and could not
get anything.
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>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:14:26 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>
>> >>> I have a lot of logs like this one:
>
>> TCP Destination Port: 3849
>
>Do you have any logs for destination port 80?
>
>Can you find any entries for IP address 213.114.173.199 in your
>firewall or Apache logs? I just tried to connect to 80.60.18.78:80
>from that IP, so if the connection attempt ever reached your machine,
>it should show in at least one of your logs.
>
>> When I connect to my server with my own computer it says that my
>> 'permit-rule' works:
>[...]
>> Outbound TCP connection
>
>That seems to say the your *outbound* connection firs that
>permit-rule.
>
>> Made a rule to permit communication from and to my computer,
>> from any computer on port 80.
>
>I don't know Norton at all, but in all firewalls I've ever seen,
>that's simply not how it's done. One rule is never for both incoming
>*and* outgoing traffic. I'd be a little bit surprised if Symantec's
>firewall is that different in this regard.
>
>Are you sure that you haven't simply permitted outgoing connections
>with destination or originating port 80?
>
>The symptoms really does make it look like a firewall or router
>problem.
>
>Regards
>/Jonas
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Jonas,
He should see my IP address as well. X.X.32.15
in the logs. I did what you did with the IP address and
:80 I tried to reach the machine this AM, and could not
get anything.
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On 10/26/2003 at 1:47 AM Jonas Eckerman wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:14:26 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>
>> >>> I have a lot of logs like this one:
>
>> TCP Destination Port: 3849
>
>Do you have any logs for destination port 80?
>
>Can you find any entries for IP address 213.114.173.199 in your
>firewall or Apache logs? I just tried to connect to 80.60.18.78:80
>from that IP, so if the connection attempt ever reached your machine,
>it should show in at least one of your logs.
>
>> When I connect to my server with my own computer it says that my
>> 'permit-rule' works:
>[...]
>> Outbound TCP connection
>
>That seems to say the your *outbound* connection firs that
>permit-rule.
>
>> Made a rule to permit communication from and to my computer,
>> from any computer on port 80.
>
>I don't know Norton at all, but in all firewalls I've ever seen,
>that's simply not how it's done. One rule is never for both incoming
>*and* outgoing traffic. I'd be a little bit surprised if Symantec's
>firewall is that different in this regard.
>
>Are you sure that you haven't simply permitted outgoing connections
>with destination or originating port 80?
>
>The symptoms really does make it look like a firewall or router
>problem.
>
>Regards
>/Jonas
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:14:26 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> >>> I have a lot of logs like this one:
> TCP Destination Port: 3849
Do you have any logs for destination port 80?
Can you find any entries for IP address 213.114.173.199 in your
firewall or Apache logs? I just tried to connect to 80.60.18.78:80
from that IP, so if the connection attempt ever reached your machine,
it should show in at least one of your logs.
> When I connect to my server with my own computer it says that my
> 'permit-rule' works:
[...]
> Outbound TCP connection
That seems to say the your *outbound* connection firs that
permit-rule.
> Made a rule to permit communication from and to my computer,
> from any computer on port 80.
I don't know Norton at all, but in all firewalls I've ever seen,
that's simply not how it's done. One rule is never for both incoming
*and* outgoing traffic. I'd be a little bit surprised if Symantec's
firewall is that different in this regard.
Are you sure that you haven't simply permitted outgoing connections
with destination or originating port 80?
The symptoms really does make it look like a firewall or router
problem.
Regards
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
> My ISP allows me to use a server. I did it for years and now
> suddenly after installing a new apache and firewall my server
> doesnt work anymore.
That "and firewall" might be important you know.
>>>I used Norton before and it worked fine with Apache, after installing
ZoneAlarm and the new apache my server didnt work anymore. So I installed
Norton again but it didnt help.
And: Have you checked that connections from the net really are
reaching your machine? Even if they have done so for years,
coincidences does happened and you ISP *might* have changed behaviour
at the same time as you changed your software (not probable, but easy
to check).
>>>No changes at my ISP.
Of course, you have allready checked your firewall logs for
connections to port 80. Did you find failed such connection attempts
in them?
>>> I have a lot of logs like this one:
Details: TCP non-syn/non-ack packet on invalid connection. Packet has been
dropped
Source IP address: 81.59.68.74
Destination IP address: ARNO_COMP-i1(80.60.18.78)
TCP Source Port: 1214
TCP Destination Port: 3849
TCP Message Flags: 0x00000010
When I connect to my server with my own computer it says that my
'permit-rule' works:
Details: Rule "Apache 80 Rule" permitted
(ARNO_COMP-i1(80.60.18.78),http(80))
Outbound TCP connection
Local address,service is (0.0.0.0,4510)
Remote address,service is (ARNO_COMP-i1(80.60.18.78),http(80))
Process name is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
> My server was down the last few hours because nobody can use it
> right now, that's also the reason why you can't connect.
I thought you said noone could connect to it from outside you LAN,
even when it is up. Did I misunderstand something?
>>> Someone tried to connect after I changed my conf file because someone
told me that that might help. But my server was down, so the online check
would always fail (even if the server would be online again).
> Anyway, ill make a rule to
> permit communication and ill start my server again.
Try makiing a rule to permit receiving incoming connections from any
address.
>>> Made a rule to permit communication from and to my computer, from any
computer on port 80.
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:15:57 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> My ISP allows me to use a server. I did it for years and now
> suddenly after installing a new apache and firewall my server
> doesnt work anymore.
That "and firewall" might be important you know.
And: Have you checked that connections from the net really are
reaching your machine? Even if they have done so for years,
coincidences does happened and you ISP *might* have changed behaviour
at the same time as you changed your software (not probable, but easy
to check).
Of course, you have allready checked your firewall logs for
connections to port 80. Did you find failed such connection attempts
in them?
> My server was down the last few hours because nobody can use it
> right now, that's also the reason why you can't connect.
I thought you said noone could connect to it from outside you LAN,
even when it is up. Did I misunderstand something?
> Apache got the rights to have communication with the internet so
> the ports must be open.
Why must it be open?
Most firewalls distinguish between rights to connect to the oustide
world and rights to accept connections from the outside world. Have
you told your firewall to give Apache has the right to accept
connections from the Internet to port 80?
> Isn't it true that port 80 is by default open to view pages?
In most firewalls, yes. But also, in most firewalls port 80 is by
default closed for serving pages.
Remember, Apache does not request pages, it servers them. Apache does
not utilise prescience in order to connect to browsers that wants a
page, it sits silently and waits for *incoming* connections from
browsers.
> Anyway, ill make a rule to
> permit communication and ill start my server again.
Try makiing a rule to permit receiving incoming connections from any
address.
Regards
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:15:57 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> My ISP allows me to use a server. I did it for years and now
> suddenly after installing a new apache and firewall my server
> doesnt work anymore.
That "and firewall" might be important you know.
And: Have you checked that connections from the net really are
reaching your machine? Even if they have done so for years,
coincidences does happened and you ISP *might* have changed behaviour
at the same time as you changed your software (not probable, but easy
to check).
Of course, you have allready checked your firewall logs for
connections to port 80. Did you find failed such connection attempts
in them?
> My server was down the last few hours because nobody can use it
> right now, that's also the reason why you can't connect.
I thought you said noone could connect to it from outside you LAN,
even when it is up. Did I misunderstand something?
> Apache got the rights to have communication with the internet so
> the ports must be open.
Why must it be open?
Most firewalls distinguish between rights to connect to the oustide
world and rights to accept connections from the outside world. Have
you told your firewall to give Apache has the right to accept
connections from the Internet to port 80?
> Isn't it true that port 80 is by default open to view pages?
In most firewalls, yes. But also, in most firewalls port 80 is by
default closed for serving pages.
Remember, Apache does not request pages, it servers them. Apache does
not utilise prescience in order to connect to browsers that wants a
page, it sits silently and waits for *incoming* connections from
browsers.
> Anyway, ill make a rule to
> permit communication and ill start my server again.
Try makiing a rule to permit receiving incoming connections from any
address.
Regards
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
My ISP allows me to use a server. I did it for years and now suddenly after
installing a new apache and firewall my server doesnt work anymore. My
server was down the last few hours because nobody can use it right now,
that's also the reason why you can't connect. Apache got the rights to have
communication with the internet so the ports must be open. Isn't it true
that port 80 is by default open to view pages? Anyway, ill make a rule to
permit communication and ill start my server again. Hope that works, but the
past few days it didnt.
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From: "Steven Pierce" <pa...@speakeasy.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Do you know that the ISP allows traffic on port 80?? Not all ISP do.
That would be the first thing that I would check. If you have the machine
behind a firewall, then you need to be sure that you have a hole in
your firewall for port 80, 8088, 8080, etc. Which ever port you are
using.
I tried to get to your machine under the IP address that you gave
and it did not find it either. Which I know that is what you
stated.
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On 10/25/2003 at 4:19 PM A. Gideonse wrote:
>I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
>192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local network (with
>80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1). Seems like apache is running as an intranet
>server. Other users can't connect to my server on all those ip's. If I shut
>down my firewall then they still can't connect.
>
>I don't know what ip it is bound to, but it used to work with 80.60.18.78
>(my ip given by my isp).
>
>I uploaded my conf files, because the problem might be in there... You can
>find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
>
>
>
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>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:07 AM
>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
>> But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
>> can't...
>
>Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
>Are other users connecting from other machines?
>
>If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
>the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>
>IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
>binding Apache to?
>
>/Jonas
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Steven Pierce <pa...@speakeasy.net>.
Do you know that the ISP allows traffic on port 80?? Not all ISP do.
That would be the first thing that I would check. If you have the machine
behind a firewall, then you need to be sure that you have a hole in
your firewall for port 80, 8088, 8080, etc. Which ever port you are
using.
I tried to get to your machine under the IP address that you gave
and it did not find it either. Which I know that is what you
stated.
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On 10/25/2003 at 4:19 PM A. Gideonse wrote:
>I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
>192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local network (with
>80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1). Seems like apache is running as an intranet
>server. Other users can't connect to my server on all those ip's. If I shut
>down my firewall then they still can't connect.
>
>I don't know what ip it is bound to, but it used to work with 80.60.18.78
>(my ip given by my isp).
>
>I uploaded my conf files, because the problem might be in there... You can
>find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
>
>
>
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>> But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
>> can't...
>
>Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
>Are other users connecting from other machines?
>
>If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
>the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>
>IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
>binding Apache to?
>
>/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:25:57 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
>> Does Apache's error logs (wich you hav, of course, allready
> No, only request from 80.60.18.78 (my ip) and PHP errors
Then it seems that the requests are never reaching Apache.
This is usually because one of:
a: Apache isn't listening on that IP address. This has allready been
ruled as other machines in your LAN can connect to that 80.60.18.78.
b: Apache isn't listening on that port. Also ruled out obviously.
c: Something else is blocking the requests, or the machine's simply
not reachable on that address.
> (normal regular errors in PHP)
>
> > > find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
> updated it to the current settings
Still can't see anything in the config file that could result in this
problem.
If you're sure it's Apache and not something else causing the
problem, you should set the LogLevel to report more stuff and check
the logs again after making sure someone outside your LAN has
requested something for the server.
Regards
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonas Eckerman" <jo...@frukt.org>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:19:00 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
> 192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local
> network (with 80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1).
Then why're you saying that Apache isn't doing it's job properly?
Obviously Apache is answering requests from other machines.
Does Apache's error logs (wich you hav, of course, allready checked)
list any failed requests? Do they list *any* requests from machines
outside your local networks?
>>> No, only request from 80.60.18.78 (my ip) and PHP errors (normal regular
errors in PHP)
> find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
>>> updated it to the current settings
> ServerName ArnoOnline
> UseCanonicalName Off
Odd server name. :-/ With that name, it's good that you have
UseCanonicalName off. But you'll still have problems with old
HTTP/1.0 browsers if any such tries to use the site.
I did not, however, see any IP address based limiting in that conf,
so you Apache should answer requests it receives disregarding where
they originates. Note: requests it receives.
That must be a mistake in the installation procedure, I made 80.60.18.78:80
of it
/Jonas
>
>
>
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> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
> > But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors
> still
> > can't...
>
> Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
> Are other users connecting from other machines?
>
> If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you
think
> the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>
> IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
> binding Apache to?
>
> /Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:19:00 +0200, A. Gideonse wrote:
> I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
> 192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local
> network (with 80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1).
Then why're you saying that Apache isn't doing it's job properly?
Obviously Apache is answering requests from other machines.
Does Apache's error logs (wich you hav, of course, allready checked)
list any failed requests? Do they list *any* requests from machines
outside your local networks?
> Seems like apache is running as an intranet server.
Apache doesn't know what an Intranet is. It only knows about HTTP
requests/replies, local filesystem and interned addresses (IP and
domain). It cannot automatically see the diffrerence between adresses
on your local network and adresses outside it.
You can, however, manually limit Apache to not serve requests from
any adress.
> find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
> ServerName ArnoOnline
> UseCanonicalName Off
Odd server name. :-/ With that name, it's good that you have
UseCanonicalName off. But you'll still have problems with old
HTTP/1.0 browsers if any such tries to use the site.
I did not, however, see any IP address based limiting in that conf,
so you Apache should answer requests it receives disregarding where
they originates. Note: requests it receives.
/Jonas
>
>
>
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> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
>
>
> > But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors
> still
> > can't...
>
> Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
> Are other users connecting from other machines?
>
> If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you
think
> the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
>
> IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
> binding Apache to?
>
> /Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
I can view pages from the server (with localhost, 80.60.18.78 and
192.168.0.1 (ip on network)) and from computers on the local network (with
80.60.81.78 and 192.168.0.1). Seems like apache is running as an intranet
server. Other users can't connect to my server on all those ip's. If I shut
down my firewall then they still can't connect.
I don't know what ip it is bound to, but it used to work with 80.60.18.78
(my ip given by my isp).
I uploaded my conf files, because the problem might be in there... You can
find it on http://home.planet.nl/~gideo017/tempz/httpd.conf
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
> But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
> can't...
Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
Are other users connecting from other machines?
If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
binding Apache to?
/Jonas
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
> But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
> can't...
Are you connecting from the same machine as Apache is running on?
Are other users connecting from other machines?
If the answers to those questions are yes: Why on earth to you think
the firewall is not firewalling Apache?
IIf the answers to those questions are no: What IP adress are you
binding Apache to?
/Jonas
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jeanne Marie Hardin <jm...@hardincomp.port5.com>.
Aaron said:
But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still
can't...
Jeanne Marie replies:
It definitely sounds like a firewall or proxy issue to me. What is the
error they're getting when they can't see your site? If you want to
email me offlist with the address to check I can take a look at it from
my comp.
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by "A. Gideonse" <ag...@planet.nl>.
Well I did unintstall older apache versions but in the directory c:\apache I
still found apache stuff which wasnt removed. I deleted them, but I guess
that some other apache stuff did remain in system folders and stuff like
that. I've now installed apache 2 and with some changes in the conf file
(made port 80 instead of 8080) I was able to see the content of my server.
But I'm the only one who can view the content. Other visitors still can't...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeanne Marie Hardin" <jm...@hardincomp.port5.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
> Aaron,
>
> I have both Apache 2.0.47 (Win32) and Zone Alarm Pro 3.0.118 installed
> on my notebook, with Apache working fine. Perhaps if you uninstalled
> Apache and then reinstall Apache. That may do the trick. I'm thinking
> maybe the firewall changed something that broke Apache. Of course I may
> be wrong.
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Apache fails to do it's job properly
Posted by Jeanne Marie Hardin <jm...@hardincomp.port5.com>.
Aaron,
I have both Apache 2.0.47 (Win32) and Zone Alarm Pro 3.0.118 installed
on my notebook, with Apache working fine. Perhaps if you uninstalled
Apache and then reinstall Apache. That may do the trick. I'm thinking
maybe the firewall changed something that broke Apache. Of course I may
be wrong.
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