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[T5] : tapestry + spring
Hi All,
i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts in
our projects.
after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to use
Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and i
have no problem with them.
is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
--
sincerely yours
M. H. Shamsi
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Chris Lewis <ch...@bellsouth.net>.
Personally I attribute many of the T5 issues you mentioned to that fact
that it is largely a one man show. For the most part I agree with the
issues you are raising, I simply draw different conclusions. It comes
down to deciding which issue is heavier, and this of course is in the
hands of developers faced with real work. I do hope some determinism
finds its way into T5...
Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
> I Agree with you on this but i have my own problems too.
> I have about 6 years experience on working with Java Web Frameworks. such
> as Struts, JSF , WebWorks...
>
> I found that Tapestry (especially T5) is Much Better than others, but its
> development process is so slow and unpredictable. I think that is because of
> focusing varies things instead of just a little but efficient web framework.
>
> if you take a look at Spring, you will find that it is very simple and
> efficient in service layer.
> it has very nice and simple integration with Hibernate, JPA and other ORMs.
>
> just in presentation layer, there is no good tools or framework here.
> I think tapestry could be a great Framework here.
>
> if it focus on this layer and increase its development speed.
>
> lack of documents, tutorials and IDE support is Tapestry problems too.
>
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2007 3:12 PM, Chris Lewis <ch...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I couldn't disagree with you more. For people like you who are familiar
>> with spring, you may think the ioc part of T5 is a waste of time. That
>> makes sense if you use and are happy with spring. For people like me
>> it's a completely different story. I have been working with java for
>> years - on the desktop. I've been doing web work for almost as long and
>> have specifically avoided java because its approach has always seemed
>> far too heavy, restrictive, and ungraceful for web development. I
>> briefly looked at a framework here and there over the years because I
>> enjoyed java as a language, but each time I resorted to another
>> technology because each one I looked at made me laugh. Granted I was a
>> bit naive at the time, but still I had to wonder if those framework
>> developers actually developed web sites/applications with their
>> frameworks, or instead thought it would be funny to see how many poor
>> suckers would fall into the tangle of complications they created.
>> Recently a project I stepped into reached a point of critical mass, and
>> using java made sense even if complicated. I resolved to find a
>> framework that, while maybe more complicated than I prefer, would
>> prevent me from succumbing to my urges to hang myself in the shower.
>> This is getting long so I'll cut it short. Getting started with T5 was
>> easy, as I am familiar with maven and eclipse. The docs are still a
>> little lacking, but I'm not afraid of source code or contributing code
>> and/or articles. As I'm not familiar with spring I don't share your
>> perspective. I loath the (ab/mis)use of xml that has been happening for
>> years, especially in 'enterprise' environments, so I never got into
>> spring. I am not bashing it as I can't rightfully judge something I
>> haven't used, but I can say that starting w/ T5 was cake, and I see no
>> hole that needs filling by something like spring.
>> Again this is my perspective - use what works best for you.
>>
>> chris
>>
>> Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> With this abilities that all we know about Frameworks like Spring,
>>>
>>> is there any need to Tapestry Focus on providing Hibernate Integration
>>>
>> Tools
>>
>>> or Tapestry IOC ?
>>>
>>> i read Howards Documents about need for new Ioc for Tapestry, but i
>>>
>> still
>>
>>> think that using Spring Ioc and Spring XML files is much easier than
>>>
>> coding
>>
>>> it with Java Code
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2007 1:35 PM, Arve Klev <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate
>>>> ORM
>>>> (Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
>>>>
>>>> sincerely, Arve Klev
>>>>
>>>> 2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring +
>>>>>
>> Struts
>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> our projects.
>>>>> after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
>>>>>
>>>>> i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page
>>>>>
>> and
>>
>>>> i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> have no problem with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
>>>>>
>>>>> does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
>>>>> --
>>>>> sincerely yours
>>>>> M. H. Shamsi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Michael Lake <ml...@netvue.com>.
an advantage to NOT having tapestry built on spring is that we can
drop in our legacy spring contexts where we don't want to upgrade from
1.x
I really think tapestry-ioc was designed in such a way to allow
maximum refactorability and ease of testing from the developer's
standpoint.
In a way, I kindof see what you mean. I was a little put off by T4
when I heard of this "hivemind"(the predecessor to tapestry-ioc) thing
when I had already studied up on spring.
I suppose it would really take some time to see how Spring evolves,
whether or not it would be up to the job for driving tapestry. I
believe tapestry-ioc and -core have made such a great leap forward in
terms of "pulling it all together" for streamlining web-development
with java that it wouldn't have been possible to do with Spring.
spring was ubiquitous already, but couldn't mature as fast because
they had to hold up the legacy support. Tapestry is often critized for
having too many releases with too little compatibility. This is the
price you pay for having such an excellent framework. I believe
tapestry-ioc to be very mature already and by the time it comes 'round
that Spring can do what tapestry-ioc can do, tapestry-ioc (and
tapestry-core) will probably have a big following. Those people may/
may not want to go through the hassle of switching to spring. That
depends on how appealing Spring is or becomes. maybe by that point
"Spring" might be considered "stale".
Anyway, the tapestry-spring link is exactly what this project needs.
I think the site should do a little more to distinguish between the
two and drive new tapestry-lookers to a path which makes tapestry and
spring look like best pals.
-Mike Lake
On Dec 26, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Fernando Padilla wrote:
> I apologize. I didn't mean to infer that it doesn't integrate
> nicely, nor that it's not good. So don't take offense, I was just
> doing some uneducated guesstimates on tapestry adoption.
>
> The IoC is actually quite good once you get used to it (except for
> the Aliases mechanism which I haven't looked into enough). But I
> came from the point of view of, "I like Tapestry, and I'm using
> Tapestry". Then I learned what I needed to do to get tapestry to
> work, and to work with my spring configuration (quite easy).
>
>
> But for many people that come in with a mind of "will I like
> Tapestry? should I use this or that?". Saying that you have to
> learn Tapestry-Core, and Tapestry-IoC, and though it integrates with
> Spring, you have to learn a whole new IoC system (to understand and
> debug, etc).. well, it could, and probably does, turn a few people
> away; even subconsciously. We're already asking people to try out
> and trust this new fangled way of coding up their websites, why ask
> them to also learn, understand and trust a new fangled way for IoC.
>
> Spring 1.x of course was not up to the job, but it's getting closer
> and closer to having all the features of Tapestry-IoC. Tapestry
> could win over a few more people by saying that it's built on top of
> Spring.
>
> But like I said, I love Tapestry and will stick with it, and support
> the developers decisions to get it done. Though I do wish that
> there was more adoption..
>
>
>
> Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:07:49 -0200, Fernando Padilla <fern@alum.mit.edu
>> > wrote:
>>> But my guess is that using a different IoC system is really
>>> hurting adoption of tapestry. If tapestry could really integrate
>>> well with spring, then it could be more easily understood/picked
>>> up/recommended by A LOT more people.
>> Sorry, I do not get it. Tapestry-IoC (and Tapestry the Web
>> framework too) integrate very easily and seamlessly with Spring.
>> Your page classes do not even know where the beans are coming from.
>> What's your problems with the Tapestry5-Spring integration?
>
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Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Fernando Padilla <fe...@alum.mit.edu>.
I apologize. I didn't mean to infer that it doesn't integrate nicely,
nor that it's not good. So don't take offense, I was just doing some
uneducated guesstimates on tapestry adoption.
The IoC is actually quite good once you get used to it (except for the
Aliases mechanism which I haven't looked into enough). But I came from
the point of view of, "I like Tapestry, and I'm using Tapestry". Then I
learned what I needed to do to get tapestry to work, and to work with my
spring configuration (quite easy).
But for many people that come in with a mind of "will I like Tapestry?
should I use this or that?". Saying that you have to learn
Tapestry-Core, and Tapestry-IoC, and though it integrates with Spring,
you have to learn a whole new IoC system (to understand and debug,
etc).. well, it could, and probably does, turn a few people away; even
subconsciously. We're already asking people to try out and trust this
new fangled way of coding up their websites, why ask them to also learn,
understand and trust a new fangled way for IoC.
Spring 1.x of course was not up to the job, but it's getting closer and
closer to having all the features of Tapestry-IoC. Tapestry could win
over a few more people by saying that it's built on top of Spring.
But like I said, I love Tapestry and will stick with it, and support the
developers decisions to get it done. Though I do wish that there was
more adoption..
Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:07:49 -0200, Fernando Padilla <fe...@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> But my guess is that using a different IoC system is really hurting
>> adoption of tapestry. If tapestry could really integrate well with
>> spring, then it could be more easily understood/picked up/recommended
>> by A LOT more people.
>
> Sorry, I do not get it. Tapestry-IoC (and Tapestry the Web framework
> too) integrate very easily and seamlessly with Spring. Your page classes
> do not even know where the beans are coming from. What's your problems
> with the Tapestry5-Spring integration?
>
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Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:07:49 -0200, Fernando Padilla <fe...@alum.mit.edu>
wrote:
> But my guess is that using a different IoC system is really hurting
> adoption of tapestry. If tapestry could really integrate well with
> spring, then it could be more easily understood/picked up/recommended by
> A LOT more people.
Sorry, I do not get it. Tapestry-IoC (and Tapestry the Web framework too)
integrate very easily and seamlessly with Spring. Your page classes do not
even know where the beans are coming from. What's your problems with the
Tapestry5-Spring integration?
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Desenvolvedor, Instrutor e Consultor de Tecnologia
Eteg Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
http://www.eteg.com.br
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Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Fernando Padilla <fe...@alum.mit.edu>.
I think we all agree that tapestry is generally amazing. And these
threads are really just nit-picks :)
So I'll go ahead and say that I kinda side with trying to use spring
instead of reinventing the wheel.
Though it's more important to get Tapestry to work, and part of that is
to make sure that it comes to life as Howard envisions it (since it is
strongly tied to his visions and efforts). And when spring doesn't have
all of the magic that Howard envisions. But I kinda wish that spring
was up to the part (and looking more and more at the docs, it seems to
be getting closer, adding more and more support for less and less xml,
and more module/hot loading).
But my guess is that using a different IoC system is really hurting
adoption of tapestry. If tapestry could really integrate well with
spring, then it could be more easily understood/picked up/recommended by
A LOT more people. And the path to adoption from other frameworks could
be smaller..
but then again, maybe it's just a flawed prediction :)
happy holidays everyone!
Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
> I Agree with you on this but i have my own problems too.
> I have about 6 years experience on working with Java Web Frameworks. such
> as Struts, JSF , WebWorks...
>
> I found that Tapestry (especially T5) is Much Better than others, but its
> development process is so slow and unpredictable. I think that is because of
> focusing varies things instead of just a little but efficient web framework.
>
> if you take a look at Spring, you will find that it is very simple and
> efficient in service layer.
> it has very nice and simple integration with Hibernate, JPA and other ORMs.
>
> just in presentation layer, there is no good tools or framework here.
> I think tapestry could be a great Framework here.
>
> if it focus on this layer and increase its development speed.
>
> lack of documents, tutorials and IDE support is Tapestry problems too.
>
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2007 3:12 PM, Chris Lewis <ch...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> I couldn't disagree with you more. For people like you who are familiar
>> with spring, you may think the ioc part of T5 is a waste of time. That
>> makes sense if you use and are happy with spring. For people like me
>> it's a completely different story. I have been working with java for
>> years - on the desktop. I've been doing web work for almost as long and
>> have specifically avoided java because its approach has always seemed
>> far too heavy, restrictive, and ungraceful for web development. I
>> briefly looked at a framework here and there over the years because I
>> enjoyed java as a language, but each time I resorted to another
>> technology because each one I looked at made me laugh. Granted I was a
>> bit naive at the time, but still I had to wonder if those framework
>> developers actually developed web sites/applications with their
>> frameworks, or instead thought it would be funny to see how many poor
>> suckers would fall into the tangle of complications they created.
>> Recently a project I stepped into reached a point of critical mass, and
>> using java made sense even if complicated. I resolved to find a
>> framework that, while maybe more complicated than I prefer, would
>> prevent me from succumbing to my urges to hang myself in the shower.
>> This is getting long so I'll cut it short. Getting started with T5 was
>> easy, as I am familiar with maven and eclipse. The docs are still a
>> little lacking, but I'm not afraid of source code or contributing code
>> and/or articles. As I'm not familiar with spring I don't share your
>> perspective. I loath the (ab/mis)use of xml that has been happening for
>> years, especially in 'enterprise' environments, so I never got into
>> spring. I am not bashing it as I can't rightfully judge something I
>> haven't used, but I can say that starting w/ T5 was cake, and I see no
>> hole that needs filling by something like spring.
>> Again this is my perspective - use what works best for you.
>>
>> chris
>>
>> Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> With this abilities that all we know about Frameworks like Spring,
>>>
>>> is there any need to Tapestry Focus on providing Hibernate Integration
>> Tools
>>> or Tapestry IOC ?
>>>
>>> i read Howards Documents about need for new Ioc for Tapestry, but i
>> still
>>> think that using Spring Ioc and Spring XML files is much easier than
>> coding
>>> it with Java Code
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2007 1:35 PM, Arve Klev <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate
>>>> ORM
>>>> (Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
>>>>
>>>> sincerely, Arve Klev
>>>>
>>>> 2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring +
>> Struts
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> our projects.
>>>>> after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
>>>>>
>>>> use
>>>>
>>>>> Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
>>>>>
>>>>> i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page
>> and
>>>> i
>>>>
>>>>> have no problem with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
>>>>>
>>>>> does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
>>>>> --
>>>>> sincerely yours
>>>>> M. H. Shamsi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>.
I Agree with you on this but i have my own problems too.
I have about 6 years experience on working with Java Web Frameworks. such
as Struts, JSF , WebWorks...
I found that Tapestry (especially T5) is Much Better than others, but its
development process is so slow and unpredictable. I think that is because of
focusing varies things instead of just a little but efficient web framework.
if you take a look at Spring, you will find that it is very simple and
efficient in service layer.
it has very nice and simple integration with Hibernate, JPA and other ORMs.
just in presentation layer, there is no good tools or framework here.
I think tapestry could be a great Framework here.
if it focus on this layer and increase its development speed.
lack of documents, tutorials and IDE support is Tapestry problems too.
On Dec 26, 2007 3:12 PM, Chris Lewis <ch...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I couldn't disagree with you more. For people like you who are familiar
> with spring, you may think the ioc part of T5 is a waste of time. That
> makes sense if you use and are happy with spring. For people like me
> it's a completely different story. I have been working with java for
> years - on the desktop. I've been doing web work for almost as long and
> have specifically avoided java because its approach has always seemed
> far too heavy, restrictive, and ungraceful for web development. I
> briefly looked at a framework here and there over the years because I
> enjoyed java as a language, but each time I resorted to another
> technology because each one I looked at made me laugh. Granted I was a
> bit naive at the time, but still I had to wonder if those framework
> developers actually developed web sites/applications with their
> frameworks, or instead thought it would be funny to see how many poor
> suckers would fall into the tangle of complications they created.
> Recently a project I stepped into reached a point of critical mass, and
> using java made sense even if complicated. I resolved to find a
> framework that, while maybe more complicated than I prefer, would
> prevent me from succumbing to my urges to hang myself in the shower.
> This is getting long so I'll cut it short. Getting started with T5 was
> easy, as I am familiar with maven and eclipse. The docs are still a
> little lacking, but I'm not afraid of source code or contributing code
> and/or articles. As I'm not familiar with spring I don't share your
> perspective. I loath the (ab/mis)use of xml that has been happening for
> years, especially in 'enterprise' environments, so I never got into
> spring. I am not bashing it as I can't rightfully judge something I
> haven't used, but I can say that starting w/ T5 was cake, and I see no
> hole that needs filling by something like spring.
> Again this is my perspective - use what works best for you.
>
> chris
>
> Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > With this abilities that all we know about Frameworks like Spring,
> >
> > is there any need to Tapestry Focus on providing Hibernate Integration
> Tools
> > or Tapestry IOC ?
> >
> > i read Howards Documents about need for new Ioc for Tapestry, but i
> still
> > think that using Spring Ioc and Spring XML files is much easier than
> coding
> > it with Java Code
> >
> > On Dec 26, 2007 1:35 PM, Arve Klev <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate
> >> ORM
> >> (Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
> >>
> >> sincerely, Arve Klev
> >>
> >> 2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring +
> Struts
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> our projects.
> >>> after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
> >>>
> >> use
> >>
> >>> Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
> >>>
> >>> i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page
> and
> >>>
> >> i
> >>
> >>> have no problem with them.
> >>>
> >>> is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
> >>>
> >>> does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
> >>> --
> >>> sincerely yours
> >>> M. H. Shamsi
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
sincerely yours
M. H. Shamsi
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Chris Lewis <ch...@bellsouth.net>.
I couldn't disagree with you more. For people like you who are familiar
with spring, you may think the ioc part of T5 is a waste of time. That
makes sense if you use and are happy with spring. For people like me
it's a completely different story. I have been working with java for
years - on the desktop. I've been doing web work for almost as long and
have specifically avoided java because its approach has always seemed
far too heavy, restrictive, and ungraceful for web development. I
briefly looked at a framework here and there over the years because I
enjoyed java as a language, but each time I resorted to another
technology because each one I looked at made me laugh. Granted I was a
bit naive at the time, but still I had to wonder if those framework
developers actually developed web sites/applications with their
frameworks, or instead thought it would be funny to see how many poor
suckers would fall into the tangle of complications they created.
Recently a project I stepped into reached a point of critical mass, and
using java made sense even if complicated. I resolved to find a
framework that, while maybe more complicated than I prefer, would
prevent me from succumbing to my urges to hang myself in the shower.
This is getting long so I'll cut it short. Getting started with T5 was
easy, as I am familiar with maven and eclipse. The docs are still a
little lacking, but I'm not afraid of source code or contributing code
and/or articles. As I'm not familiar with spring I don't share your
perspective. I loath the (ab/mis)use of xml that has been happening for
years, especially in 'enterprise' environments, so I never got into
spring. I am not bashing it as I can't rightfully judge something I
haven't used, but I can say that starting w/ T5 was cake, and I see no
hole that needs filling by something like spring.
Again this is my perspective - use what works best for you.
chris
Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> With this abilities that all we know about Frameworks like Spring,
>
> is there any need to Tapestry Focus on providing Hibernate Integration Tools
> or Tapestry IOC ?
>
> i read Howards Documents about need for new Ioc for Tapestry, but i still
> think that using Spring Ioc and Spring XML files is much easier than coding
> it with Java Code
>
> On Dec 26, 2007 1:35 PM, Arve Klev <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate
>> ORM
>> (Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
>>
>> sincerely, Arve Klev
>>
>> 2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> our projects.
>>> after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
>>>
>> use
>>
>>> Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
>>>
>>> i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and
>>>
>> i
>>
>>> have no problem with them.
>>>
>>> is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
>>>
>>> does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
>>> --
>>> sincerely yours
>>> M. H. Shamsi
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>.
Dear Friends,
With this abilities that all we know about Frameworks like Spring,
is there any need to Tapestry Focus on providing Hibernate Integration Tools
or Tapestry IOC ?
i read Howards Documents about need for new Ioc for Tapestry, but i still
think that using Spring Ioc and Spring XML files is much easier than coding
it with Java Code
On Dec 26, 2007 1:35 PM, Arve Klev <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate
> ORM
> (Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
>
> sincerely, Arve Klev
>
> 2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts
> in
> > our projects.
> > after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
> use
> > Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
> >
> > i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and
> i
> > have no problem with them.
> >
> > is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
> >
> > does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
> > --
> > sincerely yours
> > M. H. Shamsi
> >
>
--
sincerely yours
M. H. Shamsi
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Arve Klev <ar...@gmail.com>.
T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate ORM
(Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
sincerely, Arve Klev
2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi All,
>
> i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts in
> our projects.
> after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to use
> Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
>
> i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and i
> have no problem with them.
>
> is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
>
> does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
> --
> sincerely yours
> M. H. Shamsi
>
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>.
Hi Yuan,
what version of Spring ?
my you give me some info about your projects scale ?
and do you have any problem with integrating spring and tapestry ?
On Dec 26, 2007 12:50 PM, yuan gogo <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally think T5 + spring + ibatis is very good.
> I'm using this combination on our company's projects now!
>
>
>
> 2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts
> in
> > our projects.
> > after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
> use
> > Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
> >
> > i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and
> i
> > have no problem with them.
> >
> > is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
> >
> > does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
> > --
> > sincerely yours
> > M. H. Shamsi
> >
>
--
sincerely yours
M. H. Shamsi
Re: [T5] : tapestry + spring
Posted by yuan gogo <go...@gmail.com>.
I personally think T5 + spring + ibatis is very good.
I'm using this combination on our company's projects now!
2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <m....@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi All,
>
> i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts in
> our projects.
> after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to use
> Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
>
> i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and i
> have no problem with them.
>
> is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
>
> does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
> --
> sincerely yours
> M. H. Shamsi
>